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03-31-2009, 05:40 AM
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#51
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Also, here's some food for thought.
Vegans can't swallow...
....where's the fun in that?
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03-31-2009, 09:58 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: El Paso, Texas/ Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua
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Well, but that's a consensual thing. Like the cow in family guy that enjoys being branded and milked.
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Originally Posted by George Carlin
People who say they don’t care what people think are usually desperate to have people think they don’t care what people think.
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03-31-2009, 10:02 AM
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#53
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Join Date: Dec 2006
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Originally Posted by Mr E Nigma
Also, here's some food for thought.
Vegans can't swallow...
....where's the fun in that?
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What... wait WHAT?
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03-31-2009, 10:16 AM
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#54
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Earth.
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Semen is an animal product.
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03-31-2009, 11:22 AM
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#55
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Join Date: Mar 2009
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Absolutely, and do it laughing. I would kill and eat a person if people had any nutritional value.
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03-31-2009, 11:49 AM
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#56
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: El Paso, Texas/ Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua
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Originally Posted by Ainmhian
Absolutely, and do it laughing. I would kill and eat a person if people had any nutritional value.
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They do, you idiot.
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"No theory, no ready-made system, no book that has ever been written will save the world.
I cleave to no system. I am a true seeker."
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Originally Posted by George Carlin
People who say they don’t care what people think are usually desperate to have people think they don’t care what people think.
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03-31-2009, 12:02 PM
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#57
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Join Date: Mar 2009
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Well then, this changes everything! Bust out the BBQ sauce! No seriously, I mean, I havn't looked into it for myself, but I had been told by others (idiots) there isn't. I mean aside from fat and protein. Unless on a very strict diet, I couldn't imagine the average (American) person being too good for you. What benefits are there??
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03-31-2009, 12:30 PM
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#58
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: El Paso, Texas/ Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua
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The same ones as meat.
Christ.
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"No theory, no ready-made system, no book that has ever been written will save the world.
I cleave to no system. I am a true seeker."
-Mikhail Bakunin
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Originally Posted by George Carlin
People who say they don’t care what people think are usually desperate to have people think they don’t care what people think.
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03-31-2009, 12:33 PM
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#59
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Join Date: Mar 2009
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Nevermind...
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03-31-2009, 12:49 PM
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#60
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Earth.
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Why "nevermind?"
What the hell is wrong with you?
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03-31-2009, 01:48 PM
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#61
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Join Date: Mar 2009
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Yes, I would.
In fact, I would prefer that I be the one to kill the animal, because then I can kill only what I need.
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03-31-2009, 01:49 PM
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#62
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: New England
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Originally Posted by CrossDream
Yes, I would.
In fact, I would prefer that I be the one to kill the animal, because then I can kill only what I need.
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In the sense you'd leave the carcass or make use of all the elements of the carcass?
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03-31-2009, 01:53 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2009
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Originally Posted by Lady Christine
In the sense you'd leave the carcass or make use of all the elements of the carcass?
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Hmmm, I wasn't thinking of the carcass when I wrote that (I was thinking of fish, which really doesn't leave a carcass). However, now that you mention it, I probably could use most of the carcass of a larger animal for something.
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03-31-2009, 02:02 PM
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#64
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: New England
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Originally Posted by CrossDream
Hmmm, I wasn't thinking of the carcass when I wrote that (I was thinking of fish, which really doesn't leave a carcass). However, now that you mention it, I probably could use most of the carcass of a larger animal for something.
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I was just wondering. It would be a waste to just steal a piece and leave the rest to rot. We've got freezers now, it's still good!
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03-31-2009, 02:48 PM
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#65
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Join Date: Oct 2005
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Originally Posted by Mr E Nigma
We are all guilty of complicity, in one way or another and to varying degrees, in the harming and death of other creatures. Whether we are carnivore, vegan, or something in between, no matter how carefully we choose our food, somewhere back along the long chain of food production and preparation, killing took place. No matter how carefully we trod, with every step countless insects, mites, and other creatures inadvertently perish under our feet. This is just the nature of our world. It is only when we escape altogether from the round of birth and death, when we enter into the final liberation of nirvana, the Deathless, can we wash our hearts clean, once and for all, of killing and death. To steer us towards that lofty goal, the Buddha gave us very realistic advice: he didn't ask us to become vegetarian; he asked us to observe the precepts. For many of us, this is challenge enough. This is where we begin.
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The first precept is "Do not kill or cause to kill any being." Not just human, any being that we can reasonably prevent the death of is worth saving. We are all caught up in Indra's net and reflected in each other, why kill our animal brothers, when it is so needless to do so? We cannot go through this life without causing any suffering, but that is no excuse to not want to cause as little suffering as possible. Remember, the vow of a bodhisattva is to be reborn again and again until the last blade of grass is enlightened. Respect for fellow beings and the world we share is essential, as is compassion and love for all things for such a vow to be sincere. How can you say you love all animals when you support a business that enslaves them and kills them, seperates mothers from daughters and sons, causing stress and insanity? How can you as a consumer vote with your dollars and say its okay to waste so many resources and chop down the rainforests so you can enjoy a hamburger?
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Also, here's some food for thought.
Vegans can't swallow...
....where's the fun in that?
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Yes I can ^_^ I'm not enslaving or taking advantage of a man when I do so, it is freely given with informed consent. Same with breast milk.
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03-31-2009, 03:08 PM
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#66
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Earth.
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I just realized I'm eating a vegetarian meal right now.
...need...meat...
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03-31-2009, 03:10 PM
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#67
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: New England
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Originally Posted by Underwater Ophelia
I just realized I'm eating a vegetarian meal right now.
...need...meat...
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What was it if you don't mind me asking?
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03-31-2009, 03:20 PM
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#68
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Earth.
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Fried ramen with water chestnuts and baby corn.
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03-31-2009, 06:24 PM
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#69
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Join Date: Dec 2006
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Originally Posted by Saya
Yes I can ^_^ I'm not enslaving or taking advantage of a man when I do so, it is freely given with informed consent. Same with breast milk.
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Finally, a vegan I can get on board (in bed) with! haha.
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03-31-2009, 06:28 PM
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#70
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Earth
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I wonder what it would be like if I added BREASTMILK to my morning coffee?
BWAHAHAHA!
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03-31-2009, 06:34 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Cali
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Originally Posted by Saya
Yes I can ^_^ I'm not enslaving or taking advantage of a man when I do so, it is freely given with informed consent. Same with breast milk.
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Dairy cows endure great amounts of pain if not milked regularly so milking them is not enslavement. On most smaller farms cows and even goats quite willingly come to the farmer to be milked, they don't have to be chased down or even forcefully held in place. If the cow comes of its own free will to the farmer and has an opportunity to walk away at any time then could you have the milk since the animal is freely willing to be milked?
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03-31-2009, 06:36 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Cali
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Originally Posted by Opteron_Man
I wonder what it would be like if I added BREASTMILK to my morning coffee?
BWAHAHAHA!
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It is actually a bit on the sweet side, like cream only with the consistency of skim milk.
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03-31-2009, 06:40 PM
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#73
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Join Date: Oct 2005
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I'm told its not bad. I can't remember if it was my mom or my aunt who enjoyed the taste of their breast milk. Weirded me out when I was a kid, strange how that is considered weird and sometimes gross and yet cow milk, with all its pus and vaginal juices is not considered gross or abnormal.
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Originally Posted by Mir
Finally, a vegan I can get on board (in bed) with! haha.
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Well I do enjoy *a little* exploitation now and then ;]
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Dairy cows endure great amounts of pain if not milked regularly so milking them is not enslavement. On most smaller farms cows and even goats quite willingly come to the farmer to be milked, they don't have to be chased down or even forcefully held in place. If the cow comes of its own free will to the farmer and has an opportunity to walk away at any time then could you have the milk since the animal is freely willing to be milked?
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We've bred them to have such large udders and we took away its babies, a cow is extremely maternal, doing so causes her a lot of emotional pain, and if we let her keep her babies instead of turning them into veal, she'd be nursing and wouldn't need to be milked by humans.
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03-31-2009, 07:12 PM
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#74
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Florida
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I'd probably only kill an animal if it was a choice between that and starving. I would rather eat vegetables.
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03-31-2009, 07:16 PM
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#75
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: the concrete and steel beehive of Southern California
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Originally Posted by Solumina
It is actually a bit on the sweet side, like cream only with the consistency of skim milk.
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Yeah, had my wife's years ago after she gave birth to our son. Sweeeeeet.
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