Are Politicians Even Worried About The 2010 Elections?

Deadmanwalking_05 · 03-29-2010, 09:12 PM

http://www.jpfo.org/articles-assd/el...to-america.htm

To Those Who Care:

This letter is my personal opinion, and is not meant to reflect the viewpoint of JPFO or its members.

Since the election of Barack Obama, Congress has twice blatantly demonstrated its total lack of concern for the will of the American people. First, the mind boggling and completely secret bank bailouts, and now the passage of so-called “health care reform”.

Sharing some of my present thoughts with you would have seemed overly alarmist on the day Obama was sworn into office. But now? Now there are urgent questions that must be asked.

Now there are urgent questions that must be asked.

With a few laudable exceptions, Senators and Representatives in Washington D.C. do not seem to care about the upcoming elections in November of this year. With a less than eleven percent approval rating from their constituency, these politicians, in normal times, would be cringing at the thought of going home to their own States and Districts to face the wrath of a furious American public.

But look how these arrogant politicians are behaving. They don’t seem to care. Were elections held tomorrow the bums would be tossed out … by the truckload.

And so, the question must be asked: Are there even going to be elections in 2010? And, if there are, will they be honest?

Are there even going to be elections in 2010?

I repeat: On the day of Obama’s occupation of the White House this question would have been the fodder of no one but the most hardened and cynical “conspiracy theorists”.

But this Obama administration, and the Congress he dragged in with him, rival, and perhaps even surpass, the sweeping socialistic change in American life that FDR’s “New Deal”, and LBJ’s “Great Society” instigated. Two years ago, describing what has taken place in this nation recently would have been waved off as the wildest of fiction.

Two years ago, describing what has taken place in this nation recently would have been waved off as the wildest of fiction.

Along with my concern for the 2010 elections, I’ll list some other pertinent questions that can no longer be labeled irrelevant or fanciful:

1. Why is our military spread all over the world right now? These are loyal men and women who most rigidly hold to fundamental American values. They have the will and weapons training to defend these values against all enemies “foreign and domestic”. But now they are dispersed to places like Afghanistan and Iraq. To bring “democracy” to Islam? Additionally, there are hundreds of U.S. military bases in foreign lands around the globe, few of which serve any demonstrable vital purpose.

Why is our military spread all over the world right now?

The explanation given is that they are “fighting for us”. But might it be more appropriately reasoned that they are effectively being prevented from fighting for us (and with us) … right here in America, should that terrible possibility arise?

2. Why are our local police being wooed and seduced with sophisticated military hardware by federal agencies like Homeland Security, the FBI, and BATFE? The “war on drugs” has been the excuse for this militarization of our police departments, but why is there such emphasis now given to “crowd control” weapons?

Why are our local police being wooed and seduced …

3. We now officially have no right to privacy while speaking on a cell phone. How has this immense attack on our Fourth Amendment protection from government incursion into our lives been achieved? Again, there is always an excuse. In this case it is “terrorists”. But what was wrong with the due process procedure of obtaining a lawful search warrant? Have the American people at large become the enemy?

Have the American people at large become the enemy

4. When will the other boot drop on the Internet? Australia has already instituted massive censorship. France is stepping right into line. Is everyone who’d like privacy in their personal communications and web research a kiddie porn purveyor, or a “hate criminal”, or a drug dealer, or a “terrorist”?

When will the other boot drop on the Internet?...

Alan · 03-29-2010, 09:30 PM

You know, you never did return back to me on your political views.

Deadmanwalking_05 · 03-29-2010, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan

You know, you never did return back to me on your political views.

I fail to see how my Political views weigh in on this.

Alan · 03-29-2010, 10:14 PM

You promised to get back to me on that.

Deadmanwalking_05 · 03-29-2010, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan

You promised to get back to me on that.

No matter what I say on the issue you're just going to say that I'm a "Right Wing Extremist".

Despanan · 03-29-2010, 10:35 PM

That's probably because all you do is post stuff from "right wing extremists". You never interject your own opinion, and you're evasive whenever you're specifically questioned about something.

Do you really just let those people think for you, or do you actually have something to contribute?

Oh and you still haven't come back with any proof that insurance rates have gone up due to HCR.

Deadmanwalking_05 · 03-29-2010, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Despanan

That's probably because all you do is post stuff from "right wing extremists". You never interject your own opinion, and you're evasive whenever you're specifically questioned about something.

Do you really just let those people think for you, or do you actually have something to contribute?

Oh and you still haven't come back with any proof that insurance rates have gone up due to HCR.

Who do you think wrote the bills smart guy?

The Insurance Companies that's who.

They have the most to gain by all of this.

Saya · 03-29-2010, 10:44 PM

Wait, this is from the Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership website?

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how "gun control" laws led to the nearly 70 million deaths of unarmed civilians in eight 20th-Century genocides

Yeah, the well known cause for the holocaust was actually gun control. Because you know, no Jews had armed resistances or anything.

Despanan · 03-29-2010, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Deadmanwalking_05

Who do you think wrote the bills smart guy?

The Insurance Companies that's who.

They have the most to gain by all of this.

See what I'm saying about you being evasive?

You didn't answer either question. You just posted hearsay, and backed it up with nothing.

Seriously, what are you afraid of? People here couldn't possibly think you're more of a dipshit than they already do, and all your seem to be lately is a sophisticated spambot with a few organic components.

Deadmanwalking_05 · 03-29-2010, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Despanan

See what I'm saying about you being evasive?

You didn't answer either question. You just posted hearsay, and backed it up with nothing.

Seriously, what are you afraid of? People here couldn't possibly think you're more of a dipshit than they already do, and all your seem to be lately is a sophisticated spambot with a few organic components.

Maybe because you guys are not as open minded as you think you are,and no matter the response I give you'll all try to launch a coordinated attack,because that's the only way you can deal with an opposing thought process,heaven forbid one of you actually think about something that can't be defined outside of red state or blue state mentality.

I've pretty much given up on trying to talk to any of you guys and gals,I just choose to ignore you,and post whatever the fuck I want.

For example.....

KITTENS!!!!!

Despanan · 03-29-2010, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Deadmanwalking_05

Maybe because you guys are not as open minded as you think you are,and no matter the response I give you'll all try to launch a coordinated attack,because that's the only way you can deal with an opposing thought process,heaven forbid one of you actually think about something that can't be defined outside of red state or blue state mentality.

I've pretty much given up on trying to talk to any of you guys and gals,I just choose to ignore you,and post whatever the fuck I want.

For example.....

KITTENS!!!!!

So you are participating in a community you have no desire to participate in? What exactly is the point of that? I mean, if everyone here is as close-minded as you seem to think they are, then why would you waste your precious time spamming links here?

I mean, if you really believe this stuff you're linking, then you've got alot of work to do, to prepare for when Obama and the NWO move on your home. Why would you waste time trying to convince a small faction of people who can't be convinced, and even if they could, would have no effect on the encroaching one-world government, which is even now looming.

If the world really is how you seem to think it is, then you've got way bigger problems than trolling an bunch of Goths, and if it's not, then obviously you're wrong and you're making an ass out of yourself for no reason (not to mention wasting a great deal of time).

Either way, what you're doing here is pretty goddamn sad.

Entropic · 03-29-2010, 11:24 PM

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1. Why is our military spread all over the world right now?

Well, it started when right wing groups were trying to fight the communists and socialists by planting military bases in third world hotspots. Oops, right?

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2. Why are our local police being wooed and seduced with sophisticated military hardware by federal agencies like Homeland Security, the FBI, and BATFE?

You mean the same sophisticated military hardware that you demand access to under your second amendment rights?

They're being given the sophisticated hardware because everytime they go to serve a high risk warrant, they have to deal with assholes armed with high powered weapons.

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3. We now officially have no right to privacy while speaking on a cell phone.

Actually, that's a lie.

You do have a right to privacy while speaking on a cellphone. The recent ruling only said they can track your location by obtaining a 2703 order instead of having to get a search warrant. Is it a great thing? No. Is it a complete obliteration of your privacy? No.

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4. When will the other boot drop on the Internet?

You do realize that the government paid for the development, some of the infrastructure, and a lot of the maintenance of the internet, right?

Deadmanwalking_05 · 03-29-2010, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Despanan

So you are participating in a community you have no desire to participate in? What exactly is the point of that? I mean, if everyone here is as close-minded as you seem to think they are, then why would you waste your precious time spamming links here?

I mean, if you really believe this stuff you're linking, then you've got alot of work to do, to prepare for when Obama and the NWO move on your home. Why would you waste time trying to convince a small faction of people who can't be convinced, and even if they could, would have no effect on the encroaching one-world government, which is even now looming.

If the world really is how you seem to think it is, then you've got way bigger problems than trolling an bunch of Goths, and if it's not, then obviously you're wrong and you're making an ass out of yourself for no reason (not to mention wasting a great deal of time).

Either way, what you're doing here is pretty goddamn sad.

I can be as evasive as I want to be.

Why?

Just because I can and it seems to piss you guys off that I use my rights instead of falling in line like every other conformist zombie on this site.

Let me say it again in case you didn't get it the first time.... Goddamn I love being me!

Despanan · 03-30-2010, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Deadmanwalking_05

I can be as evasive as I want to be.

Why?

Just because I can and it seems to piss you guys off that I use my rights instead of falling in line like every other conformist zombie on this site.

Let me say it again in case you didn't get it the first time.... Goddamn I love being me!

"use your rights"? What does that even mean?

Anyway, did you ever consider that maybe people here don't like you because you do nothing but spam articles written by "radical right wingers" and never inject you own opionion? Have you considered that people don't like you because you refuse to back up these insane articles with anything, and are evasive then directly questioned? Have you considered that you're reviled here not because of "using your rights" but because you're a rude fucker who's only goal seems to be making Gothic.net a backup database for infowars?

I mean seriously dude, I used to like you before you started pulling this shit. I thought you were nuts, but I enjoyed having you around as a foil for Alan and Sterrn. But now all you do is pull this ridiculous shit.

You're not a member here, and you're not interested in being a member here. Is it really any wonder why we're trying to have you banned? (And trust me, If Gothic.net were managed by folks who gave a shit you would've been banned weeks ago.)

Seriously guy, this is the closest we've come to having a real conversation in months, and you're still playing the Troll.

Ben Lahnger · 03-30-2010, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Deadmanwalking_05

I can be as evasive as I want to be.

Why?

Just because I can and it seems to piss you guys off that I use my rights instead of falling in line like every other conformist zombie on this site.

Let me say it again in case you didn't get it the first time.... Goddamn I love being me!

While I think the original copy-and-pasted article is off the mark for many reasons, some of which Entropic succinctly stated, I am not particularly offended or impressed with it. I just find it silly, as I do many of your posts.

However, I am a little offended by your statement declaring that I and every other participant on this site is a conformist zombie. I have disagreed with others here and even on one or two occasions (shock) agreed with you. I say "a little" because I really don't hold your opinion in very high regard; you seem to be the kind of "clone" or "ditto-head" that one finds on either extreme of the political spectrum ... truly an unthinking "conformist zombie", proven by the single-mindedness inherent in your history of posts.

And I keep in mind the apparent object of nearly all your posts here is to get a visceral reaction from everyone here, so it's not really necessary for me to take you that seriously.

ape descendant · 03-30-2010, 02:59 PM

I find it rather insulting that you want to post your shit almost to the point of spamming, but you don't really care what we think about it.

I mean, this is a community. If you want to post your shit and have every one blindly agree with you, try some weird conservative conspiracy theory community.

From what I've read, all you're doing is parroting things you found on other websites, no opinion of your own, don't even seem to know why you feel about it the way you do. I've never seen you back up the point of veiw you're pushing with logical argument.

If you want to be taken seriously, perhaps you should treat your community with more respect, and when you decide to argue, use logic instead of overstatement and paranoia.

Please, Deadman, don't be a dick, be a dude.

Methadrine · 03-30-2010, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Deadmanwalking_05

KITTENS!!!!!

*ahum*

Entropic · 03-30-2010, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Deadmanwalking_05

Maybe because you guys are not as open minded as you think you are,and no matter the response I give you'll all try to launch a coordinated attack,because that's the only way you can deal with an opposing thought process,heaven forbid one of you actually think about something that can't be defined outside of red state or blue state mentality.

No, we're open minded.

I'm completely open to the possibility that you're right. The problem is that as soon as anyone digs in to a single one of your points, you either:

a.) Launch in to a tirade about how we're closed minded (see above)
b.) Insinuate that we're blinded by big government (See here)
b.) Resort to stereotypical libertarian propoganda (See here) that people have already wasted time refuting (See here).
d.) Define the problem so that it can only be solved using your limited terminology (See here)
e.) Simply don't answer the question when someone makes a valid point (To toot my own horn, see here, in a less horn-tooting fashion, see here and here)
f.) Spam the boards with Infowars and PrisonPlanet articles, almost taking up an entire page to yourself with almost every thread having no replies. (See here)

You espouse dogma that we've all seen a hundred times before, repeatedly ignore us when we make valid points, accuse us of being idiots when we point this out, go back to repeating the same dogma, and then wonder why we're a tiny bit pissed off.

tl;dr, see here.