Good metal? - Page 6

Albert Mond · 12-09-2008, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by tekajo

lmao
Carry on.

Jah, man. Fook Reggae. I um a ROCKA. Jah.

Felreaper · 12-09-2008, 04:41 PM

Well, Albert Mond, you have proven yourself the trolliest troll of all, now go away

Albert Mond · 12-09-2008, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Felreaper

Well, Albert Mond, you have proven yourself the trolliest troll of all, now go away

You're quite naive to believe such a thing. How about I give you free candy to switch sides?

Felreaper · 12-09-2008, 04:47 PM

Sure! But I must warn you, there is a possibility I'm lying just to get that fuckin' candy!!!

Felreaper · 12-09-2008, 04:51 PM

At a loss for words then?

Albert Mond · 12-09-2008, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Felreaper

Sure! But I must warn you, there is a possibility I'm lying just to get that fuckin' candy!!!

Yeah... I think I'm keeping the candy.
urthuchanathhole:'(

Felreaper · 12-09-2008, 04:52 PM

Damn You!!!

Felreaper · 12-09-2008, 04:53 PM

*grabs for the candy*

Albert Mond · 12-09-2008, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Felreaper

At a loss for words then?

To martyr yourself to caution is not going to help at all. Because there'll be no safety in numbers when the right one walks out of the door.

Felreaper · 12-09-2008, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Albert Mond

To martyr yourself to caution is not going to help at all. Because there'll be no safety in numbers when the right one walks out of the door.

Mhm, quite deep... HAHAHAAA~!

Albert Mond · 12-09-2008, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Felreaper

Mhm, quite deep... HAHAHAAA~!

Yup. That's how you know it's not me.

Felreaper · 12-09-2008, 04:56 PM

Well, this is becoming quite mundane...

stolide · 12-09-2008, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Eclipsing the Son

Stolide also agreed with me and said you're wrong. So shut up.

I agreed with you on what is currently defined metal. I am also saying that what was once metal may (or may not) be considered metal at the moment. So Albert's argument may be correct if applied to the standards at a previous date. However, since this conversation is obviously taking place now, and is about metal now, the only thing that matters is the current state of metal.

I do find it funny that my agreeing with you means that Albert should shut up. Is my opinion really that important? :P

Eclipsing the Son · 12-09-2008, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Albert Mond

EtS is the troll here.

Read through this thread again and explain how I'm a troll. Because I disagree with you?

Eclipsing the Son · 12-09-2008, 06:38 PM

Cowardly troll won't attempt conversation with me.

He still burns from the last time I forced him to bury his pride before his peers in shame.

JCC · 12-10-2008, 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by LetheanBlacklight

Heavier is how you play, not how you tune.

Heavier is a lot of things, but a drop-D sounds heavier than a normal E simply because it's a lower frequency. I would've made a point of Sabbath's slow, doom tempos, but that's only one thing that makes them heavier and a great portion of Metal is breakneck speed. The tuning was just an easy and fairly universal example, obviously tuning down a step isn't an enormous difference as opposed to drop-B tunings used by Sunn O))) or drop-A and drop-G, but it is heavier than E-standard.

This video is an example: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=JgsO3A_vbtk
Wait until he uses the D-TUNA and you'll see the difference that Albert Mond seems entirely ignorant of.

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Originally Posted by Albert Mond

I am. If you listen to pure Hard Rock, as opposed to the Heavy Metal are of Hard Rock, you can tell that there's a difference between Led Zeppelin and the Yardbirds.

What's real Hard Rock, then, Albert? You redefine Heavy Metal to be this, this, this, this and THIS because Wiki told you that this utterly reliable article said Led Zeppelin were Metal. It also said that Pink Floyd were Metal. See why we were skeptical about your Wiki source? Wikipedia is full of culturally retarded people who hope you're not going to click the citation links. With this in mind, I don't want to stick to your idea of what real Hard Rock is.

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Originally Posted by Albert Mond

By my logic, you aren't worth taking seriously when talking about a band whose name you can't spell.

You wouldn't be disregarding people's opinions based on typos if they agreed with you. Man, you suck.

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Originally Posted by Albert Mond

Most people don't have to think about grammar.

Most people don't ever have to remember how to spell words? You're a riot, Mond.

Darth Nihilus · 12-10-2008, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by stolide

To be perfectly honest, I don't know what good metal is.

All have different uses.
For the most part, I find steel, copper, and aluminum to be the most useful, though there is something to be said about brass and nickle.

JCC · 12-10-2008, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Darth Nihilus

All have different uses.
For the most part, I find steel, copper, and aluminum to be the most useful, though there is something to be said about brass and nickle.

I have never heard this joke before!

Darth Nihilus · 12-10-2008, 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by JCC

I have never heard this joke before!

Ah sarcasm, a tool to be used as a surgeons knife, or the club of an ogre. I'll let you pick which one you fall into.

JCC · 12-10-2008, 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Darth Nihilus

Ah sarcasm, a tool to be used as a surgeons knife, or the club of an ogre. I'll let you pick which one you fall into.

Well, at least this retort hasn't been in circulation for nearly forty years.

Albert Mond · 12-10-2008, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by JCC

Heavier is a lot of things, but a drop-D sounds heavier than a normal E simply because it's a lower frequency. I would've made a point of Sabbath's slow, doom tempos, but that's only one thing that makes them heavier and a great portion of Metal is breakneck speed. The tuning was just an easy and fairly universal example, obviously tuning down a step isn't an enormous difference as opposed to drop-B tunings used by Sunn O))) or drop-A and drop-G, but it is heavier than E-standard.

This video is an example: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=JgsO3A_vbtk
Wait until he uses the D-TUNA and you'll see the difference that Albert Mond seems entirely ignorant of.

Wrong. I said Drop D sounded heavier. I also said that it doesn't dictate that that all Sabbath is Heavier than all Zeppelin merely based on tuning.

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What's real Hard Rock, then, Albert? You redefine Heavy Metal to be this, this, this, this and THIS because Wiki told you that this utterly reliable article said Led Zeppelin were Metal. It also said that Pink Floyd were Metal. See why we were skeptical about your Wiki source? Wikipedia is full of culturally retarded people who hope you're not going to click the citation links. With this in mind, I don't want to stick to your idea of what real Hard Rock is.

God. I also cited NPR among other things. The thing is that you have this infantile all-or-nothing perspective, when not all of Sabbath's stuff was even Metal. And it never once calls Pink Floyd "metal". It calls them a "big name in rock" which they were.

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You wouldn't be disregarding people's opinions based on typos if they agreed with you. Man, you suck.

You're right. I'd be correcting them because they'd make my reliability look bad if they agreed with me.

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Most people don't ever have to remember how to spell words? You're a riot, Mond.

Spelling comes naturally to me.

Albert Mond · 12-10-2008, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Albert Mond

God. I also cited NPR among other things. The thing is that you have this infantile all-or-nothing perspective, when not all of Sabbath's stuff was even Metal. And it never once calls Pink Floyd "metal". It calls them a "big name in rock" which they were.

Oh. And at the end it cites them as an influence to the genre. This statement is entirely true, however. What they did get wrong is the spelling of "Motley Crue" (yes, I know there are supposed to be umlauts).

JCC · 12-10-2008, 06:45 AM

One kinda-Hard Rock song from an obscure soundtrack to a 60s B-movie doesn't make them an influence on Metal, though I will admit that I misinterpreted the article a little regarding Pink Floyd.

JCC · 12-10-2008, 06:47 AM

Also, that article's segment on Black Metal says 'a lot of Death Metal [sic] comes from Sweden', I'm hereby throwing them further into disrepute as regards their Metal sageliness.

Necrophagist · 12-10-2008, 07:23 AM

Sunn O sound heavy mainly, because of their heavy use of distortion. That is also a factor, which determines the ' heaviness ' of a song.