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Old 01-31-2007, 04:39 PM   #1
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Question Is it human nature?

I'm not sure if this belongs in the Whine and cheese board or not.
It seems to me, wherever one goes, weather it be an education establishment, a job, or a simple forum, you always and unavoidably find two types of person.

The first is the "In" crowd, the clique of people who have grown comfortable with whatever establishment or group they are part of. The kind of people who have been there for so long, they are practically part of the decor. The kind, that can almost be frightened by new arrivals, who may feel that their position is threatened by it. The kind, that eventually come to believe they hold the patents on said group or establishment. Examples of these, from my own experiences, would be the groups of supervisors in jobs such as markets, shops, restaurants, etc. The popular crowds in school. The opinionated windbags of most popular forums (and parliaments).

The second group, is a bit harder to label. These are the layabouts that have nothing better to do than to poke and prod, and find things to complain about. These are the kind of people that, for whatever reason, feel insecure in most of life's ventures, who's only means of assuring their position and self-worth is to find something to attack, something they can rank below themselves. These are the forum trolls, the workplace shit-disturbers, the politically correct gestapo, and to a less serious degree, the grammar police.

Even though both groups are at extremes, they have a few things in common : over-assertiveness, the inability or unwillingness to leave ordinary people alone (annoyance), and the undying will to have others see things from their point of view (righteousness).

So, is it human nature, or human fallacy, that we will always encounter both types wherever we go? Whatever happened to "Live and let live" ? Where does it leave the rest of us who don't always feel the need to be part of, or create, conflicts?

BTW, I'm quite aware of the irony of complaining about complainers, so no need to point that out
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Old 01-31-2007, 04:52 PM   #2
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Where does it leave the rest of us who don't always feel the need to be part of, or create, conflicts?
It leaves us in the third group. ;}
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Old 01-31-2007, 04:56 PM   #3
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Yes. Probably. Some places more than others. Which is why I could never work in an office environment without shooting the back of people's heads with rubber bands.
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Old 01-31-2007, 04:56 PM   #4
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Yet there are also people, who form the fourth group.
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Old 01-31-2007, 05:01 PM   #5
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Yes. Probably. Some places more than others. Which is why I could never work in an office environment without shooting the back of people's heads with rubber bands.
I had a pretty okay job last year until they promoted me in the summer, put me in charge of a bunch of little pukes that wouldn't do a single thing I asked, but came to me with all their petty problems and conflicts...So I know what you mean, there are many occasions where I wanted to hit them in the back of the head with a maglite.
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Old 01-31-2007, 05:01 PM   #6
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It is indeed human nature; especially the part of the undying will to have others see things from their point of view.
A perfect example is myself.
I will always try to persuade people to look at things from my perspective. If it were up to me, I'd change the whole world's standards to fit my own. And I have no shame in admitting it. In fact, I'm proud of such a bold ideal.
Nevertheless, while most people will chauvinistically shove their points of view down your throat expecting you to swallow them, I will prepare it and dress it with fine condiments such as facts and logic for you so that not only would you accept it, but enjoy it.
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Old 01-31-2007, 07:15 PM   #7
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Yes, you will always find those people. They're like a part of the ecosystem that really shouldn't be, like mosquitoes or poodles. You can't get rid of them, really... oh well.
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Old 01-31-2007, 07:38 PM   #8
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I have to agree with Jillian. It is human nature. I think that I used this same idea in a different post, but it's something I firmly believe in. We all have egos. We all like to feed the ego, and that can create problems when some people (such as the know it all co-worker) go overboard and overstep their boundaries. For some people, being right is so important that they really don't take in the other person's side. Gotta feed the ego.
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Old 01-31-2007, 07:45 PM   #9
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Those people do drive me nuts though. I don't go to work to debate the merits of X and Y, i just go there to earn the paycheck that pays the rent. People don't seem to get that though.
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Old 01-31-2007, 07:51 PM   #10
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Oh trust me, they drive me nuts too. I work in a pretty specialized, high risk shop, where people rely on the fact that what we tell them and what we sell them is safe. When the little morons that know nothing decide to overstep their bounds and spout off their mouths, things can turn really ugly.
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Old 01-31-2007, 08:04 PM   #11
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That's why I just want to replace people with robots. No people, no problems..lol

As if you didn't see this one coming....lmao ;P
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Old 01-31-2007, 08:42 PM   #12
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That's why I just want to replace people with robots. No people, no problems..lol

As if you didn't see this one coming....lmao ;P

Never! *rolling eyes and stuff* hehehe
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Old 01-31-2007, 10:53 PM   #13
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I would replace people with plants. I would always offer my roommate to water her and turn her toward the light, although, she didn't find that funny for some reason...
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