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Old 02-05-2009, 05:00 PM   #151
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If you feel offended by the fact that there is no logical way to prove the existence of God or Gods... then why do you believe in one?
It was my impression that this was about faith. That said, it doesn't seem like someone with real faith in God would be offended by irrelevant logic.
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Old 02-05-2009, 05:18 PM   #152
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Don't think too hard.

If it is *stereotypical* for people to believe that God is omni-everything, gee, it must stem from somewhere. I blame the media.
How does media operate ?

By people.



You blame a system, the abstract thing that don't eat and don't think ?

No way...
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Old 02-05-2009, 06:15 PM   #153
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This thread is officially shit.
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Old 02-05-2009, 07:48 PM   #154
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"I have never met an athiest that did not need the safety of numbers... or was pleasant."
Prejudice in any direction is unhelpful. I have a very good friend, and she is warm and brilliant (think of a red headed Rachel Maddow with big boobs), and she is an atheist but one of the most pleasant people on the face of the earth. She is also a lawyer. On both accounts one would be inclined to think of sour attributes, but she is warm and caring and passionate about causes and does something about them. One of the most inspiring people I know. I am fortunate to have her friendship.

Even though Jillian is a little coarse I also consider him to be an enlightening person, worth taking the time to get to know. Making blanket assumptions that believers or atheists are unpleasant causes one to miss some of the rich relationships one can have in life. I never knew about The Picture of Dorian Gray until I heard Jillian speak of it and have since enjoyed reading not only more of Oscar Wilde but of other deep and thought provoking authors.

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Old 02-05-2009, 09:18 PM   #155
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Old 02-05-2009, 09:19 PM   #156
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This thread is officially shit.
For you, maybe. I'm having a grand old time. It's been a long time since I saw multiple religious people in one thread all reduced to asserting the existence of a Dr. Moriarty type god. That rascally God fellow, I tell ya. He's so good at making it look like he doesn't exist! Always lurking in the shadows, minding his own secret business, planting dinosaur fossils, and then BAMN! One day he pounces and rams his throbbing shaft up your anus for not abasing yourself before him. No vaseline.

Plus, we've got you admitting in plain English that you have no conscience and worship a monster. Oh, and asserting an argument, then pre-emptively refusing to talk about it, declaring victory, pretending to run away, coming back (surprise, surprise), reasserting the same argument, studiously ignoring all the replies (except once, when you explained that you were using special pleading, as if this worked in your favor), reasserting the same argument in mangled, barely comprehensible English, rinse, repeat...

The best moment so far, though, was the out of the blue ad hominems about atheists being nasty and seeking safety in numbers, right amidst an orgy of me-tooism from the believers in the thread. A truly excellent specimen of faith-based hypocrisy. But hey, I can't blame you guys. Insults and accusations are all you have left. Now you've taken such a beating that you're trying to shut down the thread. It's fucking beautiful. I haven't seen this much atheist win since the 10^10^123 = 1/12300 = 0 episode.

Wheeeeeeeere's God? Peekaboo! There he is! Wheeeeeere's God? Peekaboo, motherfucker! Aaaaaw... don't worry. You'll feel better when I'm running around on fire, wailing and gnashing my teeth. Don't forget your popcorn.
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Old 02-05-2009, 09:24 PM   #157
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Hey, relax buddy! You need a rest, guy! Look over there!
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Old 02-05-2009, 09:27 PM   #158
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Hey, relax buddy! You need a rest, guy! Look over there!
Read and feel like an idiot.
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Old 02-05-2009, 09:36 PM   #159
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How about you pick what you think is the single best argument on that site, then make the argument yourself instead of trying to fob everything off on some random third party. Your distractions are too easy to see through. You're going to have to either play ball, or leave the ball park.
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Old 02-05-2009, 09:40 PM   #160
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You're not reading.
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Old 02-05-2009, 09:46 PM   #161
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You're not reading.
Nah. Maybe I will at some point, although I doubt there's anything there I haven't heard before. In the meantime, I'm having too much fun exposing your dishonesty and cowardice here.
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Old 02-05-2009, 09:47 PM   #162
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Aaand, we're back at the beginning, where both sides try to one-up each other with that ever-evasive, all-crippling argument [that doesn't exist] that will once and for all prove who is RIGHT [and thus, obviously BETTERER] and who is WRONG.

le sigh...
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Old 02-05-2009, 09:53 PM   #163
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The beginning was a link to something hilarious.
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Old 02-05-2009, 09:56 PM   #164
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The beginning was a link to something hilarious.
If you wanted to see how science works for God read then.
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Old 02-05-2009, 09:57 PM   #165
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the fuck are you talking about?
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Old 02-05-2009, 10:00 PM   #166
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You said my combination of God and reason was stupid.
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Old 02-05-2009, 10:01 PM   #167
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Aaand, we're back at the beginning...
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If you wanted to see how science works for God read then.
Three points.
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Old 02-05-2009, 10:07 PM   #168
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Lol, I found it on the list.

25. ARGUMENT FROM INTERNET AUTHORITY
(1) There is a website that successfully argues for the existence of God.
(2) Here is the URL.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
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Old 02-05-2009, 10:16 PM   #169
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Lol, I found it on the list.

25. ARGUMENT FROM INTERNET AUTHORITY
(1) There is a website that successfully argues for the existence of God.
(2) Here is the URL.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
Absolutely. Successfully being the key word there.
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Old 02-05-2009, 10:17 PM   #170
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That's a shit argument.
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Old 02-05-2009, 10:24 PM   #171
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Absolutely. Successfully being the key word there.
Dude, I refuse to believe that you can't see the problem with this. I could go dig up a website taking any position on anything, claim that it proves some point, and demand that you read it. But I wouldn't be making an argument. I would just be spewing squid ink, like you are right now. If you're sick of getting your ass handed to you in actual conversation - you know, that thing where people communicate back and forth? - the solution is to simply stop. Making your position even more shifty and evasive is not the answer.
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Old 02-05-2009, 10:44 PM   #172
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http://exchristian.net/exchristian/2...snt-exist.html
http://www.slate.com/id/2075653/
http://www.atheist.net/article/article_352.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_proof

I put four links, therefore I'm four times more right

...?


Seriously though, I would really like you to read that last link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_proof

Just give it a bite, I'm ok if you read only the first three sentences or so.
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Old 02-05-2009, 11:04 PM   #173
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Now there are -3 gods. It's like a trinity. Unfortunately, they're still all sadists.
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Old 02-05-2009, 11:48 PM   #174
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http://exchristian.net/exchristian/2...snt-exist.html
http://www.slate.com/id/2075653/
http://www.atheist.net/article/article_352.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_proof

I put four links, therefore I'm four times more right

...?


Seriously though, I would really like you to read that last link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_proof

Just give it a bite, I'm ok if you read only the first three sentences or so.
Complete failure against ID creationist theory, hardly any claims why
to be an atheist apart from the inconcrete proof of god which works
for theists as there is no proof against one but more proof of the
reason for there to be one due to all the topics discussed in my
website I posed and lastly negative proof works both ways like I
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Old 02-06-2009, 12:00 AM   #175
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Nuh-uh! Nuh-uh nuh-uh nuh-uh times infinity!
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