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Old 09-14-2008, 12:27 PM   #126
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I had my last ancient history lesson when I was 12, I know Lucy wasn't a homo sapien. >_>
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AMERICAN SCHOOL SYSTEMS DUMBIFIED!
You know what I'm talking about, the last time I learned anything valid was... in math. You know, y=mx+b, and they're probably lying to me about that too!
For cheese sakes! How am I to know things! THE GOVERNMENT IS FAILING ME! (and I'm an honors kid too... this is bad.)

(I'm not making excuses by the way; I still believe what I believe, but between trying to pass tests and trying to find the truth... everything has blurred together.)
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Old 09-14-2008, 12:31 PM   #127
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It's called Scotland, dear. Scotland.
Well in our geography books, it says the UK is one giant country and Scotland no longer exists, so sorry if I got it wrong. I'm an American and even I see major flaws in our system.
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Old 09-14-2008, 12:36 PM   #128
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Well in our geography books, it says the UK is one giant country and Scotland no longer exists, so sorry if I got it wrong. I'm an American and even I see major flaws in our system.
Maybe we should quit school, we used to be rather intelligent, but now I'm having trouble spelling simple words, and our facts aren't really factual! Oh my!

But, if I don't get this faulty education, I'm going to fail in life and be poor forever.
Then again, I could just be another starving artist, or something romanticized like that.
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Old 09-14-2008, 03:49 PM   #129
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Well in our geography books, it says the UK is one giant country and Scotland no longer exists,
Oh my fucking God.

The U.K. is a country, which contains Scotland, another country. Scotland still bloody exists you moron. If Scotland didn't exist, on your premis, neither would England, N. Ireland or Wales.

http://www.maps-of-britain.co.uk/ima...of-britain.gif

Look at a map. It may help.
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Old 09-14-2008, 04:11 PM   #130
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Well in our geography books, it says the UK is one giant country and Scotland no longer exists
ROFL! I dare you to go into a pub in Scotland and tell someone that. Also, while the American school system is rather lacking, the quality of individual schools differs. Even in my Catholic school in Louisiana we learned about evolution in science class. Religious doctrine was discussed in a separate religion class. When I switched to public school in Georgia, we also covered evolution, in spite of being in the middle of the bible belt. The only teacher that was vehemently against evolution being taught was a history teacher I had one year.

For more fossil evidence, see Archaeopteryx, one of the links between dinosaurs and birds.
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Old 09-14-2008, 04:19 PM   #131
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Well in our geography books, it says the UK is one giant country and Scotland no longer exists, so sorry if I got it wrong. I'm an American and even I see major flaws in our system.

Wow...........
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Old 09-14-2008, 04:26 PM   #132
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Well in our geography books, it says the UK is one giant country and Scotland no longer exists, so sorry if I got it wrong. I'm an American and even I see major flaws in our system.
There's no way that's true.
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Old 09-14-2008, 04:41 PM   #133
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Well in our geography books, it says the UK is one giant country and Scotland no longer exists, so sorry if I got it wrong.
Or maybe you just don't know how to read a map.
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Old 09-14-2008, 07:27 PM   #134
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But nothing is Prehistory, time didn't somehow begin when we said it does)
Sure it is. History didn't start in earnest until humans started writing things down.
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Old 09-15-2008, 09:03 AM   #135
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Sure it is. History didn't start in earnest until humans started writing things down.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/history

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It's called... -insert epic music here-
AMERICAN SCHOOL SYSTEMS DUMBIFIED!
You know what I'm talking about, the last time I learned anything valid was... in math. You know, y=mx+b, and they're probably lying to me about that too!
For cheese sakes! How am I to know things! THE GOVERNMENT IS FAILING ME! (and I'm an honors kid too... this is bad.)

(I'm not making excuses by the way; I still believe what I believe, but between trying to pass tests and trying to find the truth... everything has blurred together.)
There are many American people on here who are not retarded, try again.
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Old 09-15-2008, 11:07 AM   #136
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*cough*
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/prehistory

Actually, by that definition Lucy is pre prehistory, since she was around long before the first humans. History is the events of human kind, but we don't know what happened before people started writing things down. We don't know about wars or political figures, all our knowledge comes from physical evidence early man left behind.
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Old 09-15-2008, 11:11 AM   #137
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Sigh, I was questioning the naming of prehistory, not the concept.

Pre, latin - before.
History, *see my dictionary reference*

Hence, prehistory = Time before history -> not possible.
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Old 09-15-2008, 11:24 AM   #138
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Well, nothing we can do about the naming, but prehistory is before history, correct, history (By your defintion, our knowledge of past events) ends when we stop having any record (or keeping to your definition, the knowledge) of past events, after that its scientific deduction, hence why I said she shouldn't be learning about Lucy in history since its a subject of science.
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Well, I'm just trying to be politically correct and failing miserably it seems. *sigh*
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Old 09-15-2008, 12:35 PM   #140
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Well, I'm just trying to be politically correct and failing miserably it seems. *sigh*
Political correctness is terribly overrated.
You should not care what others think of you, so long as you are being honest with yourself.
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Old 09-15-2008, 12:40 PM   #141
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There are many American people on here who are not retarded, try again.
Florida school systems are quite poor.
That seems to be what she meant at least. They have one of the worst in the country from what I have heard.
Also, there is a difference between being misinformed and being retarded. Mental retardation is harder to fix that misinformation and poor education.
All it really takes is someone explaining things as they are and in clear terms to fix her problem, and perhaps a few good books.
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Old 09-15-2008, 12:41 PM   #142
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I guess that's true, it's just kinda in my nature to look for assurance. I've got to work on that it seems.
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Old 09-15-2008, 01:36 PM   #143
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Well, I'm just trying to be politically correct and failing miserably it seems. *sigh*
There's no sense trying to be politically correct when it comes to proving Evolution with the fossil record. There's not one shred of evidence against Evolution.
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Well, I'm just trying to be politically correct and failing miserably it seems. *sigh*
Don't confuse being PC with having manners. Manners is just being polite. Being PC extends manners to the absurd. From reading your posts, I would say you are more polite than PC.
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Old 09-15-2008, 02:45 PM   #145
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There's no sense trying to be politically correct when it comes to proving Evolution with the fossil record. There's not one shred of evidence against Evolution.
Ummm... I wasn't talking about evolution....
And also, HumanePain, I guess I am more polite than politically correct because my mom sheltered me like a nun about politics and such until just recently when I got the internet and cable tv.... she said they were materialistic and led to the devil's path... lol, now I'm goth and don't really follow a specific religion.
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They haven't even found the full skeleton of the Archaeopteryx. Stop using that as an example.
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Old 09-15-2008, 03:10 PM   #147
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The hell you talking about Necro?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:N...st%C3%A4tt.jpg
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They haven't even found the full skeleton of the Archaeopteryx. Stop using that as an example.
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Old 09-15-2008, 03:47 PM   #149
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Florida school systems are quite poor.
That seems to be what she meant at least. They have one of the worst in the country from what I have heard.
Also, there is a difference between being misinformed and being retarded. Mental retardation is harder to fix that misinformation and poor education.
All it really takes is someone explaining things as they are and in clear terms to fix her problem, and perhaps a few good books.
I appreciate your schools may not be great. But the knowledge which is missing is basic knowledge, which everyone should find out about from parents, T.V., books etc. Knowing Scotland exists isn't an international secret.

I know very well the difference between being misinformed and retarded. Saying Scotland doesn't exist is retarded. Especially when you express a desire to live there, which would imply that you've researched it a little (haha). It's a question of degree, I can live with her being ignorant of the joys of less mind numbingly obvious things; but there's a limit.
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Yes I have researched it and found sites about Scotland, but they were on the net, and thought that they were just incorrect. Also, I'd basically never seen a tv until about a month ago, and my parents don't give a flying fuck about me most of the time, so I'm sorry if you think I'm uninformed.
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