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Old 12-06-2010, 07:22 PM   #76
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Old 12-07-2010, 09:47 AM   #77
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I tend to agree with Ape about art being in the observer. That's nice.
But then, Nightwish, as Nightwish and not as "Nightwish through Ape's eyes" isn't good, that's all. Just like your sister's drawing to Christmas might make you excited to the point of crying, but it might be horrible as a painting.
That's subjectivity, we're not discussing it. At least, I hope we're not.
I was, one's taste in music and art is their own. Those tastes change and grow, one artist can introduce us to another or to a whole genre that we never even knew existed.

Of course, there will be things I'll never really get. Like the fact that there are people who listen to light jazz... on purpose.
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Old 12-07-2010, 10:54 AM   #78
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Why is this thread still going?

Nighwish sucks. And not just "I don't like this band, they suck" kinda way. I dislike a lot of good music, but I can respect a lot of them for their creativity and talent. But Nightwish is just a bunch of talentless sellouts who exploit the apparent need for cheesy dark romantic "metal" with a decent looking chick singer.
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Old 12-07-2010, 12:55 PM   #79
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But Alan is not a twat. You're just a LYING idiot now. Stop compounding your fail.
Your another twat too. There is no right answer to this argument because its mostly based on opinion.
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Old 12-07-2010, 01:38 PM   #80
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So you make an absolutist decree about how no one can talk in absolutes?
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Old 12-07-2010, 03:57 PM   #81
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So you make an absolutist decree about how no one can talk in absolutes?
Er, no.. you are the one that said that.... and wash your hands before you put words in my mouth.
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Old 12-07-2010, 05:07 PM   #82
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Why is this still going?. Yes Nightwish suck, yes I still listen to them from time to time. I still know they aren't great though. I'm just a sucker for cheesy music ^^
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Old 12-07-2010, 05:30 PM   #83
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Er, no.. you are the one that said that....
I'm the one who said everyone's entitled to their own opinion?

ARE YOU THIS FUCKING STUPID?
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Old 12-08-2010, 08:05 PM   #84
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This thread is still going because it clearly has stopped being about Nightwish and it's now about what can be considered art.
And I'm going to go with artistic intent. Ready-mades were art because Duchamp said they were. Unless we want to go with some pedantic high-art definition, in which case no type of popular music, including symphonic metal, would be included, and the only music-as-art would be opera.
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