Industrial

[KontanKarite]

I'm just going to say that from what I've been exposed to that's considered industrial, latly, is that they sound so similar that there's no point in remembering their names. It sounds awesome, but it just sounds cookie cutter as hell.

The same can be applied to the goth/death rock genre too. The most brand new bands of today follow the established formula, that they really DO sound as if they came from the 80s, but they aren't saying anything new. They don't seem very fresh if you will.

I'm not hating on it, it's great music to hear, modern stuff, as in atmospheric music in a bar or club or party. I see the old goth and industrial as something to really sit back and enjoy. But these newer guys don't really seem "fresh".

[Vako]

I enjoy the various forms of music generally referred to as Industrial. I find it intriguing and usually high-energy. It's also good for background.

[Haunted House]

Old school Industrial kicks ass, but not the new stuff. Seriously. It sounds so much better when its toned down and has actual instruments instead of one single guy poking at a keyboard and then standing back while the whole song plays by itself.

Listen to Executive Slacks and you'll see.

[badteccy]

I like newer industrial ::coughEBMcough: and I am not ashamed to admit it. I sure do loves me some old school Throbbing Gristle and the likes too.

[Underwater Ophelia]

EBM is not newer industrial...it's EBM.

[badteccy]

I can honestly never tell the difference.

[Saddiction]

There is a distinct difference in sound between bands like TG and Neubauten compared to bands like Covenant or VNV Nation.

It's a sub genre of post-industrial. EBM makes for a good time on the dance floor, hence the acronym itself. Front 242 was the first real EBM band that I started listening to.

[Lestiet]

I've always been really confused as to what bands are labeled as industrial or not. VNV Nation and Assemblage 23, are those industrial?

[Saddiction]

Originally Posted by Lestiet

I've always been really confused as to what bands are labeled as industrial or not. VNV Nation and Assemblage 23, are those industrial?

Nope. EBM.

[maggot]

Actually, EBM was considered the sound of industrial in the eighties.


The Executive Slacks are old school ebm, not old-school industrial.






Do not confuse new and old school ebm, they are different.

[Saddiction]

Originally Posted by maggot

Do not confuse new and old school ebm, they are different.

Not confusing old with new. I am aware that EBM in 2007 sounds different from EBM in the 1980's. That's a given. However, EBM is EBM. It's a genre.

I definately see it being considered the sound of industrial in the 80's. Front 242 (as an example) is closer to that sound than present day stuff, obviously. As mentioned previously, music evolves but the genre will potentially (but not always) remain the same or exist in the same vein of its predecessors.

[badteccy]

I guess I just get very confused with newer industrial and harsh EBM.

[biohazard]

Is the band "The Cruxshadows" considered industrial?

[Aaroneet]

No, the Cruxshadows are considered to be "Darkwave", a softer brand of music. There is a forum in which members reccomend industrial bands for those who are otherwise largely unfamiliar with the genre (myself included). Check it out if you want to find industrial music.

Otherwise: Industrial=KMFDM, Throbbing Gristle, Skinny Puppy. These
are some of the most basic bands I can think of, from one
fairly new person to another. I saw the thread, and
downloaded almost all of the recommended bands, but I
think it's best if you discover for yourself.

[KontanKarite]

Originally Posted by Saddiction

Nope. EBM.

You sure that it's not Futurepop?? 0_o

VNV seems way too much as if they're trying to say something profound. I've never heard EBM the WASN'T just a much more dance floor friendly Industrial.

[KontanKarite]

Darkwave, in my opinion, is a more electroinically driven form of goth music.

Cruxshadows, Ego Likeness... bands like that.

http://www.di.fm/edmguide/edmguide.html


Check this link out and be SCHOOLED.

My only qualm is, even by this guy's guide, I'm still at a loss as to what one thing is and another isn't. I think it's because the music itself is a gradiation instead of an actual drawn line.

Going by what many of you have said so far and comparing to this guide, I've figured that NO ONE really knows what something really is.

I'm not trying to insult anyone here, I'm just making an observation. What is Industrial to some is harsh EBM to others. What is EBM to some is Futurepop to others.

In other words, I can only say that we really don't know shit. HA!

[CountSixstring]

Are there any tips for making industrial music? Since I'm more of an organic instrument type of person, I find it terribly difficult to convey certain things when I make electronic music and based on what I've gathered from this thread, I'd say I was going for an industrial tone. I'm guessing its something learned over time, but I could get y with a few tips.

[Tha Duckman]

Industrial is Goths little brother who went off and joined the army.

[IsolatedReptile]

Originally Posted by CountSixstring

Are there any tips for making industrial music? Since I'm more of an organic instrument type of person, I find it terribly difficult to convey certain things when I make electronic music and based on what I've gathered from this thread, I'd say I was going for an industrial tone. I'm guessing its something learned over time, but I could get y with a few tips.

Put on steel toed boots kick a trash can and record someone screaming but distort it with as many different effects and distortions as you can first so the original sound is completely lost to the listener.

[Saddiction]

Originally Posted by KontanKarite

You sure that it's not Futurepop?? 0_o

As far as I'm concerned, I group EBM and Futurepop in the same category because they are very similar in sound. Ask me about Covenant, and I'll say the same thing. They took EBM and incorperated the whole synthpoppy, trancy futuristic elements with it to birth yet another subgenre. Strip the elements, and it's just plain old Electric Body Music (using 'old' figuratively, of course).

I'm no elitist when it comes to music. I don't really bother with studying the sounds and style types of this artist or that artist, and I also feel that it really is a matter of opinion. You may say that VNV is Futurepop and I might say it's EBM. You might say that Combichrist is Aggrotech and I might say it's Power Noise. The thing is, these artists are not limited to just one genre. There are plenty of artists out there who crossover from one genre to another whether it be over time, or even on the same album.

Am I even making sense? So many genres/subgenres. What kind of music do I like? The kind that sounds good to me, which just so happenes to be electronic in nature.

[CountSixstring]

Originally Posted by IsolatedReptile

Put on steel toed boots kick a trash can and record someone screaming but distort it with as many different effects and distortions as you can first so the original sound is completely lost to the listener.

I'll make sure to try that. XD

[maggot]

Originally Posted by Tha Duckman

Industrial is Goths little brother who went off and joined the army.

Industrial was around before goth, you stuck-up, pretentious fuck.

[IsolatedReptile]

Originally Posted by maggot

Industrial was around before goth, you stuck-up, pretentious fuck.

I'll second this motion for stuck up fuck.

Has anyone ever actually checked out a group called Pope on Acid? THey remind me a bit of Throbbing Gristle, but all I've heard are a few myspace tracks. I'm curious if they are actually any good.

[Circle V]

Originally Posted by maggot

...you stuck-up, pretentious fuck.

Originally Posted by maggot

...Elitism is what breeds champions, and causes us to evolve into further perfected life forms.

If you're going to be an asshole, at least be consistent.

[maggot]

Ah, but there's factually correct being an asshole, and just being a retard.