Cigarettes - Page 2

Equivalence · 12-01-2009, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Necrophagist

The problem is you see, that cigarettes are useless. Weed gets you high. Beer gets you drunk. But what does smoking get you?

Nicotine is a stimulant. A lot of people say that it relaxes them and makes them more awake. Combine nicotine with a lot of the chemicals found in cigarettes (or even just tobacco), and it can even mimic a mild painkiller.

Necrophagist · 12-01-2009, 01:36 PM

Jack that was a joke, stop being so trendy

Weed is a better stimulant, and it isnt even addictive -_- But no guys second hand smoke is no big deal, stop complaining. tut tut society these days...

Anarasha · 12-01-2009, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Methadrine

Nah, we cool dudes and dudettes who smoke and live our life to the fullest jump into bed with girls. Except if you're really pished, then maybe someone named Cliff lets you jump from him.

Happy now?

I know a guy named Cliff that would let you do that :P

Being a non-smoker, I halfway support the right to smoke, as long as they don't blow the fucking smoke in my face.

Tam Li Hua · 12-01-2009, 01:45 PM

Necro: For some of us, it's obviously a bigger deal than for some.

Given the amount of close family members I have, I'd -love- to not be allergic to it or think it stinks. But, I am, and it does.

Anarasha · 12-01-2009, 01:48 PM

I agree with you Tam, it stinks fucking horrible. I think that the smokers have the right to kill themselves slow and painful if they want to though.

Catch · 12-01-2009, 01:51 PM

OMG the weed vs. cigarettes battle will destroy all of gothic.net and parts of Japan.

Anyway, they both smell bad and have side effects, but the side effects are no worse than being a slob. I think we should all get along and have pot cigarettes like the English.

Tam Li Hua · 12-01-2009, 01:53 PM

Yeah, I know they have the right. But I sure am getting tired of watching the people I love slowly destroy themselves; it's just too sad and heartbreaking.

My sis had hip replacement surgery a few months ago. She's a huge smoker. The doctor told her she'd have to stop smoking or the replacement metal wouldn't be able to adhere to the bone, and thus she wouldn't be able to walk. Did this stop her from smoking? No. Apparently, she'd rather smoke than walk. It's effing ridiculous.

Tam Li Hua · 12-01-2009, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Catch

OMG the weed vs. cigarettes battle will destroy all of gothic.net and parts of Japan.

Anyway, they both smell bad and have side effects, but the side effects are no worse than being a slob. I think we should all get along and have pot cigarettes like the English.

How about all smokers switch to clove cigarettes instead? They smell much much better, and I don't think I'm quite as allergic to their smoke.

Catch · 12-01-2009, 01:57 PM

I smoke about three-fourths of a pack a day. It is a part of my regular schedule. I like the smell on me and other people. In fact, it is about time for a smoke break.

Still Jack · 12-01-2009, 01:57 PM

Put it this way, since I started smoking 5 years ago, My asthma specialist noticed an increase of 75% to 100% in my lung capacity, you don't just grow out of asthma from one month to the next, it doesn't work like that.

honeythorn · 12-01-2009, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Necrophagist

The problem is you see, that cigarettes are useless. Weed gets you high. Beer gets you drunk. But what does smoking get you?

A pleasant nictotine buzz when you're stressed or simply want one for the hell of it.

Plus you can smoke perfectly legally outside ( it's banned in enclosed public places , shops, workplaces ect here but outside anywhere is fine ) which you cannot do with weed ( in public of course ) and being hammered out of your brain on beer or whatever on your lunchbreak at work will not help you keep your job very long. Plus you have the added risk of the usual idiocy that occurs when drunk ( whilst often funny it's best kept to nights out with friends )

I've never been a heavy smoker at all. I have one or two a week if at all though I do have a couple more if at a gig or out with friends . Currently I haven't had one for two weeks. I simply haven't felt like having one. For me it's not an addiction, just an occasional pleasure. I have recently taken to smoking the occasional pipe ( tobacco not weed ) as I do like pipe tobacco and fancied giving it a go. Still needs practice to keep the bugger alight.

Catch · 12-01-2009, 02:14 PM

All we are saying is, "Give Pot Cigarettes a chance."

Still Jack · 12-01-2009, 02:15 PM

All I'm saying is " Find the nearest bridge and jump. " Oh please do.

DRM · 12-01-2009, 02:58 PM

Can you really be allergic to cigarette smoke?

Tam Li Hua · 12-01-2009, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Still Jack

Put it this way, since I started smoking 5 years ago, My asthma specialist noticed an increase of 75% to 100% in my lung capacity, you don't just grow out of asthma from one month to the next, it doesn't work like that.

Sorry, man; despite that, I just can't see the little emphysema sticks as more healthy for you than, say, an inhaler and a doctor. :/

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Originally Posted by DRM

Can you really be allergic to cigarette smoke?

Yes. Yes you can.

See my previous posts for more info. =/

DRM · 12-01-2009, 03:08 PM

Tam, how do they test you for that?
Is it like with other allergy test or do they just blow smoke in your face for a few minutes?
Andddddd what happens when you have a reaction to it?

Sorry if it's too many questions, I've just never heard of that allergy before.

Catch · 12-01-2009, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM

Can you really be allergic to cigarette smoke?

It sounds strange, yet some people are. I knew someone who was and even if you cleaned and aired out everything they would have sneezing attacks. They find out with Histomine tests. I want to take one to find out want particular shell fish I'm allergic to.

So this sounds bad but some people are allergic to perfume and no one is banning perfume, even though it might be a good idea.

Tam Li Hua · 12-01-2009, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM

Tam, how do they test you for that?

Every time I'm around someone who's smoking, my sinuses go crazy. I go to the doctor with my sinus problems. He asks me what kind of environment I live in. I tell him that every time I'm around smokers, I get a hideous reaction. If I'm not around smokers while they're smoking, then I'm fine.

The doctor has never done a test on me; they never had to, since whenever I went to the doctor I was with my mom, who always reeked of smoke.

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Andddddd what happens when you have a reaction to it?

For me, it's itchy throat and nose, watery eyes, difficulty breathing, instant mucus flood, massive headache, etc. Some folks aren't quite as sensitive, some are even more so.

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Sorry if it's too many questions, I've just never heard of that allergy before.

No worries; it's an allergy that's rather played-down. It's not much different than being allergic to pollen or dust, really. Some folks are more allergic, some less.

Tam Li Hua · 12-01-2009, 03:20 PM

Catch: Perfume doesn't cause potentially deadly diseases, and smells much much better. [That is, it does if the person doesn't overdo it. XD]

Perfume makes me sneeze and gives me a headache if there's too much of it, but it doesn't give me nearly the problems that cig smoke does. It's not nearly as deadly.

Solumina · 12-01-2009, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM

Tam, how do they test you for that?
Is it like with other allergy test or do they just blow smoke in your face for a few minutes?
Andddddd what happens when you have a reaction to it?

Sorry if it's too many questions, I've just never heard of that allergy before.

It is usually diagnosed based on having a repeated reaction to being around smokers as it is nearly impossible to test for an allergy to every one of the additives that are common in cigs, which are frequently the culprits, though a tobacco allergy is easier to diagnose as it will present no matter what brand of cig is used and will also present when pipes or tobacco are used.

As with most allergies the reaction depends on the specific case. I get migraines, other people cough or sneeze, and still others can actually go into full anaphylactic shock, though that is rare.

Not Tha Duckman · 12-01-2009, 03:46 PM

Yet it has the same production problems cigarettes do, with human rights laws being broken willy nilly. Such is life, eh? Let's ban everything, who needs freedom? I'm banning freedom right now.

DRM · 12-01-2009, 04:13 PM

If you're banning freedom, then I'm banning happiness!

Catch · 12-01-2009, 04:18 PM

... or we could balance smoking with healthy activity.

http://creatingconfidence.blogspot.c...mportance.html

... and sell pot cigarettes in stores.

Still Jack · 12-01-2009, 10:57 PM

I'm banning Catch for the good of humanity. Catch, don't come back, otherwise this won't seem legit.

Solumina · 12-01-2009, 11:12 PM

Even if she did try an listed to you she would only forget this place and then eventually find her way back under another user name, completely unaware that she had been here before until she posted a picture and someone says "hey isn't she that crazy chick?" It wouldn't be the first time.