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12-09-2008, 11:22 AM
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Computer class is over, I SHALL YOU SEE YOU ALL LATER!!! Have a very METAL FUCKING DAY!!!
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12-09-2008, 11:23 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Namibia
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Originally Posted by Felreaper
Correction, Zepplin used fuzz, as a guitarist this mistake becomes rather annoying...
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Well, hawdy haw haw. I's a geetarist, too. Can you offer up anything proving that Zeppelin exclusively used Fuzz in a way where they couldn't possibly be metal?
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12-09-2008, 11:23 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2008
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Originally Posted by Felreaper
Computer class is over, I SHALL YOU SEE YOU ALL LATER!!! Have a very METAL FUCKING DAY!!!
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Bai.
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12-09-2008, 11:24 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Grotto Del Morte
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Originally Posted by Felreaper
Anyone listen to Oghr? It's not metal, but I just got to an Oghr song (Water) and I love it!
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I love ohgr! Definitely get more. Skinny Puppy too. The band he came from
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12-09-2008, 11:25 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Grotto Del Morte
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Originally Posted by Albert Mond
Well, hawdy haw haw. I's a geetarist, too. Can you offer up anything proving that Zeppelin exclusively used Fuzz in a way where they couldn't possibly be metal?
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You? A guitarist?
Again I recommend people check the snailbob links in your signature.
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12-09-2008, 11:27 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2008
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Originally Posted by jack_the_knife
It's not only that no-one agrees with him, it's also that he's just plain wrong...
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http://rateyourmusic.com/board_messa...how=20&start=0
See number 1. Then see number 2.
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12-09-2008, 11:30 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Luxembourg
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Originally Posted by Albert Mond
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So I'm meant to believe some bloke because he posts a link to another forum where some other strange bloke happens to claim the same as him. Wow, the application of common sense and logic seems to be unpopular with Albert Mond.
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12-09-2008, 11:32 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2008
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Originally Posted by jack_the_knife
So I'm meant to believe some bloke because he posts a link to another forum where some other strange bloke happens to claim the same as him. Wow, the application of common sense and logic seems to be unpopular with Albert Mond.
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Also notice that the forum seems to completely disagree with him about Led Zeppelin being metal.
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12-09-2008, 11:33 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2008
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Originally Posted by jack_the_knife
So I'm meant to believe some bloke because he posts a link to another forum where some other strange bloke happens to claim the same as him. Wow, the application of common sense and logic seems to be unpopular with Albert Mond.
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Please. Look at my argument. My argument is that Led Zeppelin was heavy enough to be Heavy Metal and were frequently described and accepted as such. Yours is "lol no der not".
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12-09-2008, 11:36 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2008
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Originally Posted by Albert Mond
Please. Look at my argument. My argument is that Led Zeppelin was heavy enough to be Heavy Metal and were frequently described and accepted as such. Yours is "lol no der not".
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The same goes for you calling them a metal band. Just cause you say so it doesn't make them metal. Understand? They are a great hard rock band but they aren't metal.
They are a Hard Rock band. There is nothing wrong with that. Why do you so desperately want them to be a metal band? You are wrong dude. No shame in that. Just because a hard rock band uses the kick drum and electric guitar now and then doesn't equate them to metal. It simply doesn't work like that. It really doesn't need to be argued any further than that. They aren't metal because they are hard rock. Simple.
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12-09-2008, 11:41 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2008
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Originally Posted by Albert Mond
Please. Look at my argument. My argument is that Led Zeppelin was heavy enough to be Heavy Metal and were frequently described and accepted as such. Yours is "lol no der not".
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My argument is "lol no der not" because all evidence points toward them being Hard Rock.
You know what, if Led Zeppelin are heavy enough to be Heavy Metal, then so is Clutch, Böhse Onkelz, UFO and Free.
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12-09-2008, 11:43 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Grotto Del Morte
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It's okay, albert. Sanguine Mind doesn't know what metal is either. Maybe you guys can hang out and leave the rest of us, who agree with what the metal community regards as metal, alone.
You know? You can create your own little bizzaro metal microcosm where all other music genres can somehow be considered metal just because you say so. It'll be fun. Go on now. Scamper off and have fun in pretend land.
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12-09-2008, 11:45 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Namibia
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Originally Posted by jack_the_knife
My argument is "lol no der not" because all evidence points toward them being Hard Rock.
You know what, if Led Zeppelin are heavy enough to be Heavy Metal, then so is Clutch, Böhse Onkelz, UFO and Free.
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"Hard Rock" is an umbrella term. Heavy Metal falls under it. If you want a song where the term "Hard Rock" could be used specifically, try The Kinks' "You Really Got Me" or Coven's "Dignitaries of Hell".
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12-09-2008, 11:46 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2008
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Originally Posted by Albert Mond
"Hard Rock" is an umbrella term. Heavy Metal falls under it. If you want a song where it could be used specifically, try The Kinks' "You Really Got Me" or Coven's "Dignitaries of Hell".
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Neither of those bands are metal either.
Seriously. What the hell is wrong with you? It reminds me of kids trying argue marilyn manson and rob zombie being goth. It's just wrong. You're wrong. Sorry.
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12-09-2008, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Albert Mond
The Kinks' "You Really Got Me"
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'You Really Got Me' is Metal? Go away.
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12-09-2008, 11:54 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Namibia
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Originally Posted by JCC
'You Really Got Me' is Metal? Go away.
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Oh, God. I thought I made it fucking clear. Here. I'll expand on my simple previous statement.
"Hard Rock" is an umbrella term. Yes, Heavy Metal falls under it, so it's not especially bright to call early Metal bands "Hard Rock" as opposed to "Heavy Metal". Other Genres that fall under "Hard Rock" are Punk, Grunge, and probably a few others. While generally an umbrella term, it can also-and here's the hard part-be used to refer to songs such as the Kinks' "You Really Got Me" and Coven's "Dignitaries of Hell". If you can't by listening to those songs, they're much, much softer than Zeppelin, BOC, Sabbath, and other pioneering Metal bands.
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12-09-2008, 11:56 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Grotto Del Morte
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Metal falls under hard rock the same way Albert Mond ignoring my comments makes him win the argument. It doesn't. He's wrong. He's wrong and its sad.
Rock and Roll is the umbrella. Not hard rock.
Hard Rock falls under Rock and Roll. Metal falls under Rock and Roll.
Hard Rock doesn't become metal and metal doesn't become hard rock.
You can even hear some metal bands, like Amon Amarth say "Are you ready for some rock and roll!" when they perform live. They don't say "Are you ready for some hard rock and prog!"
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12-09-2008, 12:22 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2008
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Lol... It seems like everything here turns into an argument. Well, thanks for all the metal bands.
I'm going to have to agree with ets here though.
Let me add that the meaning of words change overtime. As such, our terms used to define music will change.
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12-09-2008, 12:24 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Namibia
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Originally Posted by stolide
Let me add that the meaning of words change overtime. As such, our terms used to define music will change.
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Precisely. =/
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12-09-2008, 12:25 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: London.
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Originally Posted by stolide
Lol... It seems like everything here turns into an argument.
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That's part of what makes it fun.
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12-09-2008, 12:31 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: California
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Iron Maiden
Metallica
Megadeth
Pantera
Slayer
Led Zepplin
Judas Priest
Black Sabbath (Albert is right they are metal, Pretty much every band EtS listed is DEATH metal, not that it's bad but it gives people the wrong impression of different metal types.)
Death (Best Death metal band ever)
GWAR
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12-09-2008, 12:35 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: London.
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Originally Posted by Sanguine Mind
Pretty much every band EtS listed is DEATH metal,
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What? Are you saying Machine Head, Danzig, Opeth and Metallica (just to name a few) are death metal??? What a fucking retard.
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12-09-2008, 12:43 PM
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: Your mother.
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Wrong again ETS, Led Zeppelin were Progressive rock...
Trve metal:
Power Metal:
Blind Guardian,
Stratovarius,
Sonata Artica.
Speed Metal:
Agent Steel,
Primal Fear,
Grave Digger.
Doom Metal:
Draconian,
Candlemass,
Church Of Misery.
Black Metal:
Celtic Frost,
Immortal,
Mayhem.
Death Metal:
Obituary,
Bloodbath,
Behemoth.
Thrash Metal:
Kreator,
Coroner,
Anthrax.
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12-09-2008, 12:57 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Namibia
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Originally Posted by Bat Attack
What? Are you saying Machine Head, Danzig, Opeth and Metallica (just to name a few) are death metal??? What a fucking retard.
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What? Are you saying that "pretty much every" now means "absolutely every"??? I've got more question marks than necessary, therefore whatever you said must be absolutely ridiculous.
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12-09-2008, 01:00 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: London.
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Originally Posted by Albert Mond
What? Are you saying that "pretty much every" now means "absolutely every"??? I've got more question marks than necessary, therefore whatever you said must be absolutely ridiculous.
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Ok then, answer this, how many of the bands that Eclipsing The Son listed are actually death metal?
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