Hillary

[ArtificialOne]

I'd like to see Condaleza run. She has a great education and seems to think before she says anything. Not only would she be the first woman, but also the first black.

[CptSternn]

Originally Posted by ArtificialOne

I'd like to see Condaleza run. She has a great education and seems to think before she says anything. Not only would she be the first woman, but also the first black.

Hahahah - let her run. Better yet, put her on the McCain ticket!

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/...ce.transcript/

RICE: I don't remember the al Qaeda cells as being something that we were told we needed to do something about.

BEN-VENISTE: Isn't it a fact, Dr. Rice, that the August 6 PDB (presidential daily briefing) warned against possible attacks in this country? And I ask you whether you recall the title of that PDB?

RICE: I believe the title was, "Bin Laden Determined to Attack Inside the United States."


Yeah, thats the woman right there!

[Pye]

Originally Posted by gothicusmaximus

Well, her campaign endorses it, so I assume she's fine with it.

You have a point there. =)

[ArtificialOne]

Yeah... That was before 9/11.. And where or what was the Clinton's doing the whole 2 terms? Nothing.. bombing aspirin factories really, because bill was busy ****** and lyeing and not paying attention.

http://rflav.reachingforlucidity.net/?p=211

http://latina.blog-city.com/a_few_of...atest_hits.htm

This is just funny

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OFOy29nNIo

More about hillary's lies

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkjkH1ZEgpM

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1993580/posts

Accent?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaDQ1vIuvZI

God, what a fraud...

[ArtificialOne]

Oh, I posted to soon before spell checking so don't get your panties in a wad.

[CptSternn]

http://tinyurl.com/56jjlq

Today, we learned the astonishing fact that the Clinton campaign's chief strategist, Mark Penn, recently met with representatives of the Colombian Government to discuss passing the Colombia Free Trade Agreement. Further, we know that Penn's firm, Burson-Marsteller, of which Penn is the CEO, is being paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to lobby for passage of this act. That Clinton's chief strategist would be working hand in hand with the government of Columbia and the Bush Administration while candidate Clinton says she opposes the agreement is truly incredible, even by today's crazy standards.

Not only is the Colombia Free Trade Agreement a continuation of the Bush Administration's failed trade policies that have benefited multinational corporations at the expense of workers and their families, but Columbia is the most dangerous place in the world to be a trade unionist. Since 1991, there have been more than 2,300 trade unionists murdered in Colombia. In 2007, there were 39 murdered and this year 13 have been murdered (if these trends continue more will be murdered in 2008 than in 2007). Since the Uribe government took office, more trade unionists have been murdered in Colombia than in the rest of the world combined! These deadly actions represent attempts made by employers, paramilitaries, guerillas, and the government to stop dissent, silence workers, and destroy the one way workers can take control of their livelihood - through their union. It is an outrage that the Bush administration even negotiated a trade agreement with Colombia in the first place.

A disturbing pattern is emerging in the Clinton campaign. She seems to regularly take positions on important issues which are refuted by her own actions, or those of her top campaign staff.

For example, Hillary said she always opposed NAFTA. But as has recently been documented, she supported NAFTA when it counted, that is, when it was being voted on.

She claims that she supports workers' right to organize unions but Mark Penn's firm Burson-Marsteller is helping anti-union companies like Cintas, a highly profitable uniform and laundry supply company, deny workers their right to join a union. Many labor leaders let Clinton know they were upset with Penn's association with an anti-union company like Cintas, but she did nothing to sever her relationship with Mark Penn. And Mark Penn did nothing to sever his relationship with Burson-Marsteller.

Even Harold Ickes, a Clinton supporter with many friends in the labor movement, said last June that: "Mark has told us that he is taking extra steps to assure people on the outside that he does not engage with clients that may be involved in controversial issues."

Can we really trust Hillary's claim that she will fight against the Colombia Free Trade Agreement? Working for the Colombian government is not only "controversial," it is obscene and morally wrong. One wonders: which side is Hillary really on?

The Columbia issue is a real big one, at least with me. The government there, supported by the US and using US training and weapons, has killed thousands of pro-Union supporters in Columbia over the past few years in efforts to keep prices down on American products which are made there.

Thats right - try and get your workplace unionised, the next thing you know your car blows up or a group of men in black come and shoot you in the night.

All of this is being bought and paid for by the US government.

I have more info on this, PLUS a current list of American companies which are participating in this and have offices in Columbia. In fact, I have a thread on this here already as well...

https://www.gothic.net/boards/showthread.php?t=5423

[ArtificialOne]

You don't mention FARC, which presumably you agree with.

What about that snafu with Chavez and Ecuador supporting farc?
http://www.rssmicro.com/search/Funding-FARC-Rebels

I see you're trying to make a connection via bush/clinton... etc. Not only have I worked with people down there, my sisters married to some doctor who can't get a visa down in Bogota. The unions..
socialists of course, are trying to overthrow the democratic govt. Conditions aren't great there. But it would be allot worse if Farc were to succeed.

Oh, those pro union supporters were more likely Farc soldiers.

http://www.ccc.nps.navy.mil/si/mar03/latinAmerica.asp

But, of course socialists want you to see only the positive future they espouse and not the terrible past in which they come from or even currently involved in. So yeah, drug trafficing, civilian assasinations and support from outside govts trying to overthrow a country...

[CptSternn]

You really should check out the above link before putting your foot directly into your mouth like that.

[ZombiesNTea]

She's such a frigid heartless bitch, a succubeast bent on destroying all things good in the name of banning flag burning and naughty video games.

[Wormboy]

I like Hilary O_o *ducks flying projectile, leaves room*

[Dreggas]

Originally Posted by viscus

Yeah, uh huh. And he wants to keep the Iraq occupation going for the next 50 years.

Yeah using the words "McCain" and "Ethics" in the same sentence is really a stretch as well. Despite the media portrayal McCain is, was, and always has been an asshat.

[CptSternn]

So anyone see her interview the other day when she said:

Clinton regrets RFK assassination remark

http://tinyurl.com/6zgzhd

SIOUX FALLS, S.D. - Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton quickly apologized Friday after citing the June 1968 assassination of Robert F. Kennedy in defending her decision to keep running for the Democratic presidential nomination despite increasingly long odds.

I mean seriously. She is asked, on camera, why she is still in it with no chance of winning now since its pretty much over and she says, on camera to a group of reporters, RFK was assassinated in June while running for President.

I mean fer fuck sake - is her campaign hoping someone will shoot Obama? Is that her campaign plan? Stay in it until someone kills off my rival. Thats pretty weak. She has tried to say she meant something else, but cummon, there is nothing else she really could have meant with that comment.

That pretty much sums up her campaign. Sticking in there, hoping Obama will be shot down by a crazed killed or possibly killed when a meteor hits his car. After that, she could be President!

[Catch]

So everything is okay. Everyone agres Clinton is a B$@ch.

[Black&Blue]

Originally Posted by Catch

So everything is okay. Everyone agres Clinton is a B$@ch.

You say that like it's a bad thing, lol.

[Catch]

No, but I have uncovered the true identity of Senator Clinton. It starts in the fourth paragraph.

http://www.printnpost.com/blogs/4249...nd-Review.html

[Barfing_Rat]

Originally Posted by Catch

Yep. Senator Clinton is pure evil incarnate. A blind snake eating her own young and vommiting all over the USA.

That's a lovely language you have! Keep it up

Anyway... As far as for a women as a president... Well don't get me wrong, I'm not against it. But... If a women was to become a president, I'd want someone who isn't so bent on defending her gender every time she turn around. I want them to be confident and able to carry out business as usual instead of try to somehow put feminist right and movement into every issue and accuse anyone who doesn't agree with her of being sexist as a way to try get things her way.

To me... I can always see how very unsecured Hillary is. I can always sense that she's extremely uncomfortable and very nervous and tensed up. So I certainly don't want someone like as her for president!

For Condaleza... She may be a smart woman, but... She is way too arrogant for her own good. She tend to come off as way too aggressive to be a good leader. So she probably would just do a lot more harm in long run.

So far... I really don't know of any female politicalian who would make a decent president. If I have to pick a female to be a president right now... Without doing any research or any homework... I'd probably pick Angelina Jolie mainly because she have been around world and seems to be pretty educated on what other countries is going through and everything. Probably not the best but... at least she probably would be able to see things from other countries' view point instead of try to force them to do as she wish like as many other politicalians would.

[CptSternn]

Yeah. Not that I want to see a 60 year old pair o' legs, but it would have made her appear a bit less of a feminist militant had she put on a dress or even a skirt during the campaign.

She really came off to me ass one of those crazy furry legged women who listen to Indigo Girls and hate men.

[Barfing_Rat]

Originally Posted by CptSternn

Yeah. Not that I want to see a 60 year old pair o' legs, but it would have made her appear a bit less of a feminist militant had she put on a dress or even a skirt during the campaign.

She really came off to me ass one of those crazy furry legged women who listen to Indigo Girls and hate men.

I totally agree. I bet she'd be more worried about how others will treat her than getting the job done.

I bet next thing she'll try is draw on a stubbles so she look more masculine.

[Catch]

She probably will run again. I don't know what is so difficult to understand about "Obama won."