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Old 04-20-2009, 06:11 PM   #26
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It's irrelevant because talking to you is a fucking waste of time. But yeah, I'm that fucking stupid.
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Old 04-20-2009, 06:24 PM   #27
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If talking to me overall is a waste of time, why did you only say IF I believed so?

God, I both love and hate how people are never consistent. They don't give a shit about having a real opinion, they just want to hear themselves.
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Old 04-20-2009, 06:31 PM   #28
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. They don't give a shit about having a real opinion, they just want to hear themselves.
Wish you could tell that to numerous people running numerous governments, haha. [Edit: Pretty general, right?]
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Old 04-20-2009, 08:31 PM   #29
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I'm curious. Why do you guys think it's dumb?
I detest all drugs. We've discussed this and I don't wish to do so again.
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Old 04-20-2009, 08:44 PM   #30
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Old 04-20-2009, 08:51 PM   #31
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I do detest drugs. Drugs for recreational purposes I strictly do no do.
Drugs for health reasons I force myself to live with but use them very rarely.
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Old 04-20-2009, 08:51 PM   #32
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I detest all drugs. We've discussed this and I don't wish to do so again.
That does not make the existence of a holiday stupid, merely the reason for the holiday.
That's entirely a different discussion.
Now, I would also argue that your detestation for "all drugs" is entirely arbitrary, but I doubt we'll get to that too.
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Old 04-20-2009, 09:02 PM   #33
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It's my opinion. It's not meant to be proved correct or not because it cannot be.
What's important to one could not be to another.

The discussion is not worth committing to.
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Old 04-20-2009, 09:07 PM   #34
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Wow.
I don't even have to comment on this one.

For crying out loud, don't make this another 'let's bash/stereotype' smokers thread. Especially when you don't know what you're talking about.
Getting high is a social construct.

"User reaction, however, is heavily influenced by expectations and past experience, and many first-time users feel nothing at all."

From a .org site.
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Old 04-20-2009, 09:15 PM   #35
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No one gets high the first few times they smoke.
Untrue.
I was definitely high the first time I smoked.
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Old 04-20-2009, 09:22 PM   #36
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But how much did you smoke and how sensitive to it are you? That could make the biggest difference.
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Old 04-20-2009, 09:27 PM   #37
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I shared a small joint with another girl when I first smoked it and got body stoned.
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Old 04-20-2009, 09:41 PM   #38
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It's my opinion. It's not meant to be proved correct or not because it cannot be.
My opinion is that South Park is written, directed, and produced by one single Polynesian twelve year old.
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Old 04-20-2009, 09:43 PM   #39
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But how much did you smoke and how sensitive to it are you? That could make the biggest difference.
Or I'm just not an idiot and I know how to breathe.
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Old 04-20-2009, 09:53 PM   #40
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Or I'm just not an idiot and I know how to breathe.
I'm sure the numerous people who smoked correctly and felt no effects would agree with you.
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Old 04-21-2009, 04:05 AM   #41
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I felt it the first time, and any time after that.
While I do believe some sort of placebo effect can occur when you think you're smoking weed but aren't, I've smoked many times when I was alone, or the only one getting high, and still felt it, it's definitely not a social construct.
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Old 04-21-2009, 06:02 AM   #42
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While it's not true that everyone feels nothing the first time they smoke, it's not uncommon for this to happen. I guess it's one of those reactions that some experience and others don't.
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Old 04-21-2009, 06:50 AM   #43
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It seems that the effects of marijuana are similar to anything else. Some folks feel it more keenly than others, and some folks don't feel it at all.

I'm disinclined to try it, but that's mostly for personal reasons.
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Old 04-21-2009, 07:14 AM   #44
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My opinion is that South Park is written, directed, and produced by one single Polynesian twelve year old.
Awesome.
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Old 04-21-2009, 12:35 PM   #45
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See? You have nothing to actually have a rational justification. You're gonna be a terrible philosophy major.
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Old 04-21-2009, 01:05 PM   #46
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See? You have nothing to actually have a rational justification. You're gonna be a terrible philosophy major.
The topic was a subjective one that cannot have facts and it's only opinionated whereas the red herring bullshit you supplied can be proved by fact and is objective.

Oh and go fucking die. I assure you no one will care.
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Old 04-21-2009, 01:10 PM   #47
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Old 04-21-2009, 01:11 PM   #48
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Consistency is never subjective, dipshit. That's the whole point of dialectic.
the-nihilist just proved to you how your opinion couldn't possibly apply to all circumstances, and you had to modify your opinion to it.

So your bullshit claim isn't subjective just because you say it is, just as my parallel isn't subjective.

Where you got that it's a "red herring", I have no idea. Probably you've just seen use use it around and thought it sounded cool.


Oh, and by the way, it's really hypocritical of you to be (falsely) accusing me of using a red herring and then you go on to make an ad hominem.
I assure you that many people would care if I die. Not that you care. But guess what, you're not the center of the world. You're not even above average to consider yourself special when you can't even argue for your life. (by the way, just let me guess. Your next response will be some shitty permutation of insulting me and pretending 'you don't care' because you really can't think of anything else to defend your position)
So yeah.
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Old 04-21-2009, 01:19 PM   #49
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Consistency is never subjective, dipshit. That's the whole point of dialectic.
Bullshit.
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the-nihilist just proved to you how your opinion couldn't possibly apply to all circumstances, and you had to modify your opinion to it.
No, that is my opinion.
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So your bullshit claim isn't subjective just because you say it is, just as my parallel isn't subjective.
Tell me how one's opinion on anything isn't subjective.
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Oh, and by the way, it's really hypocritical of you to be (falsely) accusing me of using a red herring and then you go on to make an ad hominem.
I assure you that many people would care if I die. Not that you care. But guess what, you're not the center of the world. You're not even above average to consider yourself special when you can't even argue for your life. (by the way, just let me guess. Your next response will be some shitty permutation of insulting me and pretending 'you don't care' because you really can't thin of anything else to argue
So yeah.
It wasn't part of the argument so it's not an ad hominem. I just hate you.
You're not the center of the world either or special whatsoever which is why you try to make anything whatsoever an argument to feed your crazed ego that no one cares about.

And correct, I don't care. Good job.
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