Teenage Girl Facing Child Porn Charges

[Albert Mond]

Originally Posted by Tam Li Hua

There's a difference, legally, between a woman who is 18+ sending such things, and a girl 17 & under sending such things.

Legally, under 16, people aren't allowed to have sex. You don't charge two 13 year olds with statutory **** for getting it on, much the same way that you don't charge a 15 year old with creation of Child Porn for taking pictures of herself.

If it's unfair, then why not try to get the law changed?

This is a misuse of the law. The people charging her are clearly incompetent.

[Albert Mond]

Originally Posted by badteccy

Ok, my mistake,
but why would anyone be jealous of the act?

Because they never got to do anything like that when they had the chance.

I think that is a ridiculous statement. If people OF AGE were jealous, then they could go ahead and post nakkie pictures of themselves as much as they wanted.

They still wouldn't be 'the kids of today getting away with all this stuff'.

As for kids having sex under the age of consent? Yea, we know...you asking if they should be charged for that is pulling threads, and pulling threads is really annoying and proves nothing

You're pulling threads. There is nothing in the laws about distribution of Child Porn that says it would be legal if she sent these to someone her age. Thus, charging her with them is -in effect- the same as charging a child with molestation for masturbating.

[Albert Mond]

Originally Posted by Tam Li Hua

If she had just taken the pics, then I don't think any harm would have been done.

My God, you're stupid. What about 'Creation of Child Porn' and 'Possession of Child Porn' do you not fucking get?

But since she took them and sent them to an over-aged man, then yes, she should receive some kind of punishment: one night in jail, community service, a hefty $$$ fine, something along those lines. However, I -do- agree that the child pr0n charge is a bit much.

Then what the fuck are you arguing about? Most of us never said she shouldn't be punished. The argument was mostly that she was being charged incorrectly. Now, you've changed your argument, and are still trying to argue as if everybody else thinks what she did was just dandy. It's stupid. You lost, so just fucking admit you're wrong or argue with someone like JCC who actually disagrees with your new argument.

As far as what kids do with their own bodies is concerned, no, I -don't- believe folks should be allowed to do whatever they want to their own bodies if it in some way affects someone else, as this girl's actions did.

It affected who? The guy who was collecting child porn?

Is drinking okay? Sure. Is getting drunk at home alone justifiable? Sure. Is getting drunk then getting in a car and pulling out into traffic okay? No, because it can hurt another person.

She wouldn't have been old enough to drink, anyway. Also, I fail to see how privately sending dirty pictures to a man endangers a public freeway.

[Godslayer Jillian]

I took a picture of my penis in high school because of a dare.
Should I turn myself in for possession of child porn too?

[$haDe]

Originally Posted by Godslayer Jillian

Thank you almighty state for punishing a girl because she could have gotten hurt!!
Oh shit, I just saw a guy without a seat belt on. Doesn't he realize in how much danger he is without a seat belt?!! Hopefully the cops will track him and shoot at his vehicle a little to protect him.

LOL

*Starts dreaming of the picture*

EDIT

Originally Posted by Jillian

I took a picture of my penis in high school because of a dare.
Should I turn myself in for possession of child porn too?

I have a time machine and got back in mychildhood, ****** myself... Is that child abuse ?

[blackwater1110]

Originally Posted by $haDe

I have a time machine and got back in mychildhood, ****** myself... Is that child abuse ?

No, but it's pretty hot.

[Albert Mond]

Actually, I think it would be child abuse. Unless you mean statutory '****'. Either way, it would also be really bizarre, and probably impossible.

[Tam Li Hua]

Originally Posted by Alarica

Honestly. Of course nobody is jealous of a 15yr olds tits, you fool. Jealous of the act, not of the contents of the outcome.

So wait...because I think this girl should be punished in some way for breaking the law, that means I'm jealous of her?

My brain...it hurts...logic center failing...

Should they all be charged with reckless endangerment, just in case they catch and pass on an STD?

Yes. Yes they should. Make 'em pick up trash on the side of the road, or visit patients who are dying from AIDS or something.

Either that, or the Age of Consent should be lowered to about 14.

[Albert Mond]

Originally Posted by Tam Li Hua

So wait...because I think this girl should be punished in some way for breaking the law, that means I'm jealous of her?

You changed your argument and continued to argue, you fucking moron. Again, we were mad because she was being charged with the wrong things. Then you came in, started going "oh no I tink she soulhd be chagred as sex offender pedofial lol". Then you change that to "well, mayb dats rong but shi stil soulhd be punishd" as if you somehow think any punishment can be used as proxy for another one.

[Underwater Ophelia]

Originally Posted by Alarica

If a woman is allowed to fuck, in the eyes of the law, at 16, then a woman is allowed to send tit pics at 16 too. Both involve her doing what she wants with her own body.

She's not allowed to have sex with people over 18.
The man she sent the pictures to was over 18, so what you just said wouldn't apply.

[Tam Li Hua]

Mond: So, you're mad because I changed my mind after considering people's arguments and discussing the issue IRL with others?

Look, IMHO, if they are going to make and keep a law like this, then they need to follow through with it with some kind of light punishment like community service or a night or two in jail. [I now feel that the child pr0n thing is, indeed, far too harsh of a punishment.] If they aren't going to follow through with the law, however, then they need to lower the age of consent to where it doesn't matter any more.

As for the jealousy thing, I was trying to figure what in blazes Alarica was on about.

[Albert Mond]

Fun fact: 15 year olds can't legally have sex with anybody.

[Tam Li Hua]

If it's illegal for 15-year-olds to be sexual with anyone then they should bear some kind of light punishment when they do stupid crap like this.

[Albert Mond]

Originally Posted by Tam Li Hua

Mond: So, you're mad because I changed my mind after considering people's arguments and discussing the issue IRL with others?

No. I'm mad because you've completely changed it, and now are continuing to argue with people who you technically agree with, now. It's fucking retarded. It's like "Durrrrrrr, hay guize. I just upgraded to ur level, but my insight and bileeve da same ting but ur stil rong durrrrrrrrr".
You obviously can't even begin to understand the situation, so -being the ignorant sheep (I usually hate that phrase, but it applies here) you are- you go to people you know and decide to copy their beliefs, STILL without having a clue what's going on.

Look, IMHO, if they are going to make and keep a law like this, then they need to follow through with it with some kind of light punishment like community service or a night or two in jail.

"Law"? What law? What in fuck's sake are you talking about? The child porn charges? Once a-fucking-gain, I have to point out that those charges are being used incorrectly when used on her. What's more, if she were to be fully hit with them, she would be a registered pedophile/sex offender/child abuser her whole life. Light punishment is fine, but the charges cannot be considered 'light punishment'.

[I now feel that the child pr0n thing is, indeed, far too harsh of a punishment.]

Well, so much for that last rant.

If they aren't going to follow through with the law, however, then they need to lower the age of consent to where it doesn't matter any more.

The age of consent for pornography? Again, the only age relevant to the charges was hers. Who she sent it to didn't matter, because, if she's charged with these, then she was a criminal the moment she took the pictures. It doesn't mean people have to change the bloody laws. It means whatever retard who's trying to charge her should get an at least minimal understanding of why the laws are even there.

[Albert Mond]

Originally Posted by Tam Li Hua

If it's illegal for 15-year-olds to be sexual with anyone then they should bear some kind of light punishment when they do stupid crap like this.

Quit trying to use 'light punishment' as a counter-argument. I (and others) used it against you when you thought she should be charged with child porn.
Also, everybody knows teenagers have sex all the time. I actually read about a statutory '****' case once, where a 17 year old boy got in trouble for letting a 15 year old girl blow him. First, they tried to sentence him to maybe seven years in prison, and make him a registered sex offender. Needless to say, pretty much everyone involved pointed out that it was a bullshit attempt at making an example out of the boy, and the garbage was overturned.

[Alarica]

Originally Posted by Tam Li Hua

Yes. Yes they should. Make 'em pick up trash on the side of the road, or visit patients who are dying from AIDS or something.

Either that, or the Age of Consent should be lowered to about 14.

I'm trying hard to restrain myself, because I'm frankly having '1 of those months' and taking it out on literally everyone, but you really are fucking unreal, in an insulting way. Essentially you are saying anyone having more than 1 sexual partner, could potentially spread STD's and therefore ought to be charged NOW with reckless endangerment, because of something that MIGHT happen.

I take it up the ass. Should my boyfriend be charged NOW with manslaughter, just in case I get colon cancer and die? Or charged with potentially distributing porn, incase 1 of his mates finds the pics of my tits that he has?

And you think the age of consent being lowered to 14 is a good idea, yet have a problem with a 15yr old sending a man, raunchy photos? Ok.

[Tam Li Hua]

Alarica: You misunderstood my point. If the government insists on making it illegal for anyone under the age of 18 to have sex or be sexual, then they should follow through with that rule and come up with a reasonable punishment for those who break that law.

However, if the government is going to treat those under 18 as adults, then they should lower the age of consent to about age 12, and thus make it legal for teens to have sex and be sexual with whomever they wish.

Granted, that girl wasn't literally hurting anyone when she took nude photos of herself and sent them, but since she -is- 15, it's illegal. If the age of consent was lowered to the age of 12, then it -wouldn't- be illegal, and there would be no punishment for anyone.

Does this conflict with what I said originally? Most likely. However, since what I said originally was written two friggin' days ago, don't you think it's possible I've had time to consider the arguments and change my mind a little about this issue?

[Tam Li Hua]

Alarica: I'm sorry you're having a bad month. I hope things get better for you soon.

[JCC]

Originally Posted by Tam Li Hua

Granted, that girl wasn't literally hurting anyone when she took nude photos of herself and sent them, but since she -is- 15, it's illegal.

Do you agree with that law?

[Tam Li Hua]

It's hard to say, but I'm leaning towards disagreeing with it. Teens are horny, and there's a lot of older folks out there who like getting it on with teens but who aren't literally ped0ph1lez. So why not make it legal for teens to go with their natural instincts?

Besides which, other countries that don't have such laws actually seem to have less of a problem with teen promiscuity, pregnancies, and the spread of STD's than the U. S. does. Perhaps if teens were treated as adults by the legal system, it would be better for them developmentally.

After all, it wasn't so long ago in our history that teens were, legally, considered adults.

[Underwater Ophelia]

Originally Posted by Alarica

I'm trying hard to restrain myself, because I'm frankly having '1 of those months' and taking it out on literally everyone, but you really are fucking unreal, in an insulting way. Essentially you are saying anyone having more than 1 sexual partner, could potentially spread STD's and therefore ought to be charged NOW with reckless endangerment, because of something that MIGHT happen.

I take it up the ass. Should my boyfriend be charged NOW with manslaughter, just in case I get colon cancer and die? Or charged with potentially distributing porn, incase 1 of his mates finds the pics of my tits that he has?

And you think the age of consent being lowered to 14 is a good idea, yet have a problem with a 15yr old sending a man, raunchy photos? Ok.

That's a completely different situation than what is described here.

[JCC]

Originally Posted by Tam Li Hua

It's hard to say, but I'm leaning towards disagreeing with it. Teens are horny, and there's a lot of older folks out there who like getting it on with teens but who aren't literally ped0ph1lez. So why not make it legal for teens to go with their natural instincts?

Besides which, other countries that don't have such laws actually seem to have less of a problem with teen promiscuity, pregnancies, and the spread of STD's than the U. S. does. Perhaps if teens were treated as adults by the legal system, it would be better for them developmentally.

After all, it wasn't so long ago in our history that teens were, legally, considered adults.

If you disagree with the law, don't support the punishment.

[Tam Li Hua]

I support the government making a solid decision one way or the other.

[JCC]

Originally Posted by Tam Li Hua

I support the government making a solid decision one way or the other.

That's entirely ridiculous. "Sure, attempting to ruin her life for something so desperately petty is indefensible, but at least they're not sitting around doing nothing!"

[badteccy]

Originally Posted by Alarica

I'm trying hard to restrain myself, because I'm frankly having '1 of those months' and taking it out on literally everyone, but you really are fucking unreal, in an insulting way. Essentially you are saying anyone having more than 1 sexual partner, could potentially spread STD's and therefore ought to be charged NOW with reckless endangerment, because of something that MIGHT happen.

I take it up the ass. Should my boyfriend be charged NOW with manslaughter, just in case I get colon cancer and die? Or charged with potentially distributing porn, incase 1 of his mates finds the pics of my tits that he has?

And you think the age of consent being lowered to 14 is a good idea, yet have a problem with a 15yr old sending a man, raunchy photos? Ok.

I don't mean to disregard your posts and opinions...but you seem like an attention whore. In one post you mentioned that you have pictures of your tits somewhere, and in this one you mention that you take it up the ass. Yea, yea....I'm sure you are just "trying to use examples"....but you really do come off as an attention whore.