Ironic Existance

[ArchLich]

Originally Posted by Duane

Oh!? Thems bein' fightin' words, Puto!

How clever, you mixed redneck with cuban.

[The Count]

Originally Posted by Godslayer Jillian

How is "(I just love repeating myself)" sarcastic in any way?

Considering he just repeated himself.

[ArchLich]

Originally Posted by Godslayer Jillian

How is "(I just love repeating myself)" sarcastic in any way?

You're supposed to be answering that question... But as it seems you cannot, I guess I will. I do not love repeating myself, yet I said I do in reference to a preceeding sentence in which I had, therefore, sarcasm is created.

[JCC]

Originally Posted by ArchLich

Rofl..

Ok, I'll give a short summary:

I have never voted because since I turned 18 I have never seen an honest to goodness competent politician run for president. However I am independant. In a senario where I were forced to vote in 08, I guess I would have gone with Ralph Nader, since he is atleast intelligent.

My opinion of Obama: Come Help A Nigga Get Elected

Cause the only change he's making is more debt, but maybe in 100 years, if america still exists, we might see our debt in the millions rather than trillions.

My opinion of McCain? I am actually interested in seeing a paternity test to determine whether he is Bush's father rather than George W., because they share a seemingly identical moronic trait, "I have bigger balls than the other guy, fuck trees, its more fun to blow them up".

I'll leave it at that for now.

That's not an opinion of politics, that's an opinion of the sordid soap opera that is the American election. What are your political views?

[ArchLich]

Originally Posted by JCC

That's not an opinion of politics, that's an opinion of the sordid soap opera that is the American election. What are your political views?

I have never studied political science, therefore my views will not impress you. Reading about the elections, and the steps the government takes at solving certain issues, and creating an opinion of the political parties based on that information is about as far as my views go.

I'll give one example of my views:

I believe new industry need to originate in america rather than imported from countries whom are already cashing our checks(china, for example). This would bring non-internationally opposed revenue to the econemy.

[Godslayer Jillian]

Originally Posted by ArchLich

You're supposed to be answering that question

No I'm not. I'm not supposed to show you where you've been sarcastic, but rather prove that you haven't. So I shouldn't be answering a question of "how is that sarcastic." In my questioning that, I'm proving to you you aren't sarcastic.

I do not love repeating myself, yet I said I do in reference to a preceeding sentence in which I had, therefore, sarcasm is created.

That's not sarcasm. By definition sarcasm is witty. It's not just an observance of repetition.

[Godslayer Jillian]

Originally Posted by ArchLich

I believe new industry need to originate in america rather than imported from countries whom are already cashing our checks(china, for example).

I assume you mean 'outsourcing' as in, virtually the opposite of importing.

[ArchLich]

Originally Posted by Godslayer Jillian

No I'm not. I'm not supposed to show you where you've been sarcastic, but rather prove that you haven't. So I shouldn't be answering a question of "how is that sarcastic." In my questioning that, I'm proving to you you aren't sarcastic.
That's not sarcasm. By definition sarcasm is witty. It's not just an observance of repetition.

Wit is relative, therefore just because you do not perceive anything I say to be witty, doesnt make it any less sarcastic.

[Godslayer Jillian]

So you're telling me that this is sarcastic

"Waffles are balloons."
See, because waffles aren't balloons, so it's witty in relative terms that I would ascertain this falsehood which makes it ironic


You're an idiot.

[ArchLich]

Originally Posted by Godslayer Jillian

I assume you mean 'outsourcing' as in, virtually the opposite of importing.

I mean we need to stop buying so much shit from other countries, our profit margin would increase considerably if we sold our own manufactured goods.

[Malice In Wonderland]

0° 0' N 160° 0' W

Me and Duane can meet you there.

[Godslayer Jillian]

Originally Posted by ArchLich

I mean we need to stop buying so much shit from other countries, our profit margin would increase considerably if we sold our own manufactured goods.

So you mean consumer goods rather than new industry that's not outsourced?

[ArchLich]

Originally Posted by Godslayer Jillian

So you're telling me that this is sarcastic

"Waffles are balloons."
See, because waffles aren't balloons, so it's witty in relative terms that I would ascertain this falsehood which makes it ironic


You're an idiot.

Technically, yes it is, if it were an untrue expression of the beliefs of whomever said it. I am not required to make you rofl to be sarcastic.

[Godslayer Jillian]

So now you're regressing from your claim that "wit is relative" to justify the inherent need for wit in sarcasm.

[ArchLich]

Originally Posted by Godslayer Jillian

So you mean consumer goods rather than new industry that's not outsourced?

Ok, I'm gunna break it down as best I can for you, TRY to understand it this time because this will be the last:

Man took stone, chizzled into wheel, man sold wheel.

[Godslayer Jillian]

Originally Posted by ArchLich

Ok, I'm gunna break it down as best I can for you, TRY to understand it this time because this will be the last:

Man took stone, chizzled into wheel, man sold wheel.

Why do you need "AMERICAN man took stone, AMERICAN 'chizzled'[sic] into wheel, AMERICAN man sold wheel."


Your condescension does nothing for your appeal for American jobs and American products.

[ArchLich]

Originally Posted by Godslayer Jillian

So now you're regressing from your claim that "wit is relative" to justify the inherent need for wit in sarcasm.

I'm not sure where you got regression out of that, but no, exact opposite actually, I'm supporting the claim.

[Godslayer Jillian]

Originally Posted by ArchLich

I'm not sure where you got regression out of that, but no, exact opposite actually, I'm supporting the claim.

Archlich - "it's sarcasm because it has wit but wit is relative"
Archlich - "sarcasm doesn't need to be witty to be sarcasm"

Very strong support.

[ArchLich]

Originally Posted by Godslayer Jillian

Why do you need "AMERICAN man took stone, AMERICAN 'chizzled'[sic] into wheel, AMERICAN man sold wheel."


Your condescension does nothing for your appeal for American jobs and American products.

Ok, now let me teach you about "profit":

If we export an american made product, we make a shitload more than if we export an imported product, because(and this is the punchline, hold onto you're seats children) we pay a shitload more when we import goods than we do when we make it ourselves.

[ArchLich]

Originally Posted by Godslayer Jillian

Archlich - "sarcasm doesn't need to be witty to be sarcasm"

I didnt say that, I said it doesnt need to be perceived as witty. Just because you dont think its witty, doesnt mean someone else wouldnt.

[Godslayer Jillian]

Originally Posted by ArchLich

Ok, now let me teach you about "profit":

If we export an american made product, we make a shitload more than if we export an imported product, because(and this is the punchline, hold onto you're seats children) we pay a shitload more when we import goods than we do when we make it ourselves.

That's only in GDP which shows, as its name implies, the Gross Domestic Product of the country. It does not necessarily imply a better standard of living for the people in that country. Very nationalistic mindset, but not very practical.

[Godslayer Jillian]

Originally Posted by ArchLich

I didnt say that, I said it doesnt need to be perceived as witty.

You signed for that when you compromised the whole integrity of the word by saying my reducto ad absurdum was indeed sarcastic.

[ArchLich]

Originally Posted by Godslayer Jillian

You signed for that when you compromised the whole integrity of the word by saying my reducto ad absurdum was indeed sarcastic.

You do not perceive "Waffles are balloons" as witty, and neither do I, however, someone else might, therefore I signed for shit.

[Godslayer Jillian]

Originally Posted by ArchLich

You do not perceive "Waffles are balloons" as witty, and neither do I, however, someone else might, therefore I signed for shit.

Cut the relativism crap, it's nothing but postmodern kitsch.

[The Count]

If we export an american made product, we make a shitload more than if we export an imported product, because(and this is the punchline, hold onto you're seats children) we pay a shitload more when we import goods than we do when we make it ourselves.

Now I don't know much about economy, but this is how I see it:

America stops importing from China.
China has over supply in goods.
China sells it cheaper.
Other countries buy it.
Other countries require less American goods.
America loses Profit.