Sexuality - Page 78

Ben Lahnger · 05-17-2006, 06:46 AM

By the way, I have a mini-rant ... and it belongs here.

Why do we spend so much time and energy making sure our children get sex education (which I agree they need) but we give no thought to giving them love education. Love (or the perception of love in a relationship that is actually disfuntional or abusive) has ruined as many lives as unsafe sex. (This is just my opinion. I don't know where I'd get the facts to support that assertion, but I feel it strongly, so I'm saying it anyway.)

I suspect that trying to introduce a class on love into the curriculum in most school systems would be one hell of an uphill battle.

Morrigan_Dubh · 05-17-2006, 07:09 AM

Ben, I wholeheartedly agree with you on this.

In fact, in Ireland we don't even get sex-educated in school. It has been horribly taboo for so long, that even though porn magazines, sex phonelines, lapdancing clubs and so on have slipped quietly into the mainstream of our culture (and threfore into the radar of children), nothing is being done in to educate children about anything but the biological side of things.
Children are learning that sex is "cool", like a must-have accessory, but they aren't learning about the consequences, the emotional weight it holds, the responsibilty it demands... or about it's link to love.
In fact love, seen as emotional fragility, is almost as much a taboo as sex.
Until recently, the school curriculum did not contain any kind of subject that was not maths, science, language or arts-related. My younger brother was lucky enough to have "Civics" class when he was in high-school. He learned a little bit about human rights and community values, but that's as close as it gets to being taught about how to function well as a human being...

Sobeh · 05-17-2006, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by darkangel29

Up here, our parents need to give us our education, and they need to do that with both Love and Sex. My mom educated me well and held nothing back.

...

I can't quite wrap my mind around this...

Sobeh · 05-17-2006, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by darkangel29

I mean.. bah, you and your sick minds.

I love how this means my sick mind as assexually split, and now there're two! Schweet...

And while swoobs don't sound all that sexy, something tells me that it ain't all bad...

WizardElement5 · 05-17-2006, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Sanctus Dei

Wiz darling.. due to possible legal issues (and no disrespect to anyone under 18) please refrain from offering advice of any kind in the area of sex to minors. In the wrong hands any information you share has the possiblity to bite you in the ass if someone gets upset.

Thanks Sanctus. I'm sure that is very sound advice and I know you are giving it with my own personal well being at heart, so it is doubly appreciated. I do think it is important that younger people should be able to talk about issues that are so very important to them and not be ignored, but on reflection, I can see that a parent or professional counsellor is probably the right person for such serious concerns.
I apologize for overstepping the mark.

Kinflame · 05-17-2006, 03:18 PM

COME COME LITTLE CHILDREN AND HEAR NUNCLE JOSH TEACH YOU ABOUT UNDERAGE SEX!!!!

Bwaha. Ha.

Anyway, Love? I think so. I know I've felt lust and this is different.

Maybe it's not quite love, but who ever knows what love feels like? Noone can truly define a feeling. For now, the word works.

NachtSorcier · 05-17-2006, 09:14 PM

Much like sexual education should be, children should be taught love by their parents. But, also like sex, parents often are too "embarrassed" or whatever half-assed reason they have to teach it to their children. So yes, perhaps love should be a topic talked about in school.

Sanctus Dei · 05-17-2006, 09:38 PM

Agreed Nacht.. everything I learned I learned in practice, there are days that go by where I wish I hadn't... but then there are the nights that go by where I'm happy as hell I did..

Queenofdarkness57 · 05-18-2006, 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by darkangel29

Oh on another note... my boobs are sweaty... Any other girls have problems with swoobs?

(swoobs= sweaty boobs)
(swass = sweaty ass)

* raises hand* ME ME ME! Only during the summer, though. I think it's because umm they're HUGE!

Ben Lahnger · 05-18-2006, 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Sanctus Dei

Agreed Nacht.. everything I learned I learned in practice, there are days that go by where I wish I hadn't... but then there are the nights that go by where I'm happy as hell I did..

Yeah ... I'm gonna need some alone time now.

Sanctus Dei · 05-18-2006, 10:03 PM

Teaching love is ridiculous... no one could agree on an acceptable teaching curriculum... but I would say offer free counselors for a class where the children are encouraged to talk about it, but not schooled in it.

Sanctus Dei · 05-18-2006, 10:27 PM

HEY!! You suck T.

Sanctus Dei · 05-18-2006, 10:58 PM

Screw the impersonations.. I just want more TStone.

=^.^= *kitty meow*

Ben Lahnger · 05-22-2006, 10:00 AM

Well, I could say we could all argue our way into hell before we could get a consensus on what should be taught in a sex eduction class, but that doesn't stop anyone from introducing sex-ed classes to curriculums everywhere.

So what if we can't all agree what love is. I think we can all (or almost all) agree what love is not. Love is not having a man come home every night and beat you if you took too long going to the grocery store. Love is not someone querying you everytime you glance at someone of the opposite sex just because they walked into the area you're in. Love is not saying "I can't live without you."

I'm not saying it has be a class that defines what love is. I just think that there ought to be some guidance on what a mature, healthy relationship should be based on ... respect, admiration, empathy and open communication.

WolfMoon · 05-22-2006, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Ben Lahnger

So what if we can't all agree what love is. I think we can all (or almost all) agree what love is not. Love is not having a man come home every night and beat you if you took too long going to the grocery store. Love is not someone querying you everytime you glance at someone of the opposite sex just because they walked into the area you're in. Love is not saying "I can't live without you."

Benny, I agree that we should teach our children that love is none of those things.

Morrigan, I think it's odd that love is thought to be something weak over there. Love is the most powerful force there is. Well, not more powerful than a speeding bullet, but powerful enough to give one hope in the most desolate places.

Tom, if I get there first I'll warm your seat.

Morrigan_Dubh · 05-23-2006, 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by WolfMoon

Morrigan, I think it's odd that love is thought to be something weak over there. Love is the most powerful force there is. Well, not more powerful than a speeding bullet, but powerful enough to give one hope in the most desolate places.

In general, I suppose it's not thought to be something weak. Certainly institutions of traditional "love", like the nuclear family and marriage are protected by the state. Divorce was only made legal recently and it is very difficult to get one.
But in the attitude of the populace in general is split down the middle when it comes to love. I have been taught to see it as something weak... at least I picked that up somewhere along the way... perhaps it's just my take on things... I certainly am learning a lot about love recently... I've been very vulnerable and I've seen my loved ones come to my rescue... and I've realised that I'm not a fool to confess and show love... I'm learning that giving love does not have to leave you vulnerable, and that you don't lose anything by loving, because love is an infinte resource, if you can allow it to be...

WolfMoon · 05-23-2006, 11:44 AM

You are beautiful.

Morrigan_Dubh · 05-30-2006, 04:41 AM

Thank you.

You are too.

"People are like stained-glass windows.
They sparkle and shine when the sun is out,
but when the darkness sets in,
their true beauty is revealed only if there is a light from within."

winged_dreams · 05-31-2006, 10:37 PM

The fun things I learn in my human sexuality class. I learned today that most women don't feel when a man ejaculates. I was like "What?! Are you serious?" When a man ejaculates, it's my favorite part of sex. I certainly feel it and it feels damn good! *shivers* The fact that I can feel just makes me more of a sexually unique person.

J.M.Lovechild · 06-01-2006, 06:09 AM

I'm bisexual. Actually, from the age of around 12 until last year i was pretty sure i was a lesbian. I was never attracted to any guys until i met my boyfriend. He is still the only guy i've ever been sexually attracted to, but i love him very much anyway and we've been together eight months. My friends were more shocked when i started seeing him than when i first came out.

My opinion on human sexuality: i don't think anything is set in stone. No matter how sure you may be, things may change. You can't help who you fall in love with.
As for sex outside of relationships, i've never had a problem with it (although i've never personally had full sex outside of a relationship). It's up to the individual, but i do agree that sex brings people close in a way that almost nothing else can.
I hate when religions and so forth try to make sex "dirty", "bad" and "sinful". Sex is one of the most beautiful, empowering and spiritual things (as long as nobody is being hurt or exploited) we can ever experience.

Ben Lahnger · 06-16-2006, 01:45 PM

*bump*

because everyone needs a little sex and humor in their lives.

Speaking of which ...

Immortal_Death · 06-23-2006, 11:42 PM

Nonfatsuperjesus's avatar gave me an erection. Im Straight..

Crying_Crimson_Tears · 08-11-2006, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by thetiesonyourcorset

thanks for your comment,i know what you mean...i'm not totally sure but i think i am definately bisexual...i have done stuff with girls before...to be exact i was 11 and we were playing this game called "boyfriends and girlfriends" or "houses" or something like that and well i was normally the guy and was normally on top when we were pretending to have sex (obviously we had clothes on and were humping eachother) i got rather turned on and i almost kissed the girl (my friend at the time) when she told me to pretend to kiss her but my lips almost touched hers and i really wanted to kiss her but i ended up not doing it as i didn't think she'd like it and thought she wouldn't be my friend if i had have! Since then i've fancied more than a few girls...almost kissed two of them but we were shy even though one of those girls had already kissed a girl before!

I went through the same thing. Except this happened with a friend when I was aged 7-12. Both she and I had made out and had dry sex numerous occasions. We called it the "Kissing Game." I knew then I liked girls and shit. I did it with 2 other friends. Except one never let me kiss her or move around and shit. And one of my friends thought she was bi for 2 weeks then she changed her mind. I have come close to having a girlfriend. I am so totally in love with her. She and I made out and felt each other up it was much, much more of things I know better now then, then. I'm 14 now and I know I am bisexual. I have a b/f.

Sex to me is a beautiful thing. It's when two people who are so, so very much attracted can feel that and just let them into their world. Everything disappears around you two and it's just the union of your hearts and your desires and passion for each other. It's a beautiful and wonderful experience. Nothing that anyone I guess can perfectly describe. Although sex is abused every day for ones own personal agenda and it can be fatal and emotionally wrecking. And you should always be careful when being in that territory. Sex can be so much abused, but when it's right, it's just wonderful.

Outside_Existance · 08-11-2006, 09:21 PM

i went thru a phase like that.

i found myself wanting to kiss/feel up/be with males for about 4 years, 10-14. im 16 now, still a bit bi but love girls much more. i have a beautiful girlfriend now and have never been happier. i love you insertwittyname!

Crying_Crimson_Tears · 08-12-2006, 07:37 PM

Yeah, I mean I like chicks. But I love my boyfriend more than anything else in the world. He means everything to me and I have never ever been happier. I love you seektoamplify aka JT!!!!!