Greetings

[JCC]

Vegetarianism is also dumb if it's for ethical reasons.

[MitsyMayhem]

Originally Posted by Underwater Ophelia

Crowbar, just so you know, fish are treated just as inhumanely as other animals raised for food.

Also, pescetarianism isn't anymore healthy than being a vegan who takes vitamins.

But I like fish and it's good for you, and so therefore I've made that choice.

[MitsyMayhem]

Originally Posted by JCC

Vegetarianism is also dumb if it's for ethical reasons.

Why are you a vegan?

[Underwater Ophelia]

Originally Posted by MitsyMayhem

But I like fish and it's good for you, and so therefore I've made that choice.

I don't care whether or not you make the choice to eat fish or meat or not.
But fish really isn't that good for you. It's full of mercury and farm raised fish is often full of crap like disease and ammonia because the fish are all packed in a tank with their own waste.

[MitsyMayhem]

Originally Posted by Underwater Ophelia

I don't care whether or not you make the choice to eat fish or meat or not.
But fish really isn't that good for you. It's full of mercury and farm raised fish is often full of crap like disease and ammonia because the fish are all packed in a tank with their own waste.

Ew. That's disgusting.

[Underwater Ophelia]

Originally Posted by MitsyMayhem

Ew. That's disgusting.

Cheap, though.

[MitsyMayhem]

Originally Posted by Underwater Ophelia

Cheap, though.

And no one does anything about this why?

[Underwater Ophelia]

Originally Posted by MitsyMayhem

And no one does anything about this why?

Same reason we have BET and black people sometimes having trouble getting jobs--most people don't give a shit.

Keeping hundreds of fish in a tank is cruel to the fish and leads to them having insanely high mercury and ammonia levels, but who wants to pay extra for fish caught in the wild?

[MitsyMayhem]

Originally Posted by Underwater Ophelia

Same reason we have BET and black people sometimes having trouble getting jobs--most people don't give a shit.

Keeping hundreds of fish in a tank is cruel to the fish and leads to them having insanely high mercury and ammonia levels, but who wants to pay extra for fish caught in the wild?

It's official. I think I might eat imitation meat in my sushi from now on.
I'm curious as well, do you have a particular diet preference, Ophie?

[Underwater Ophelia]

Originally Posted by MitsyMayhem

It's official. I think I might eat imitation meat in my sushi from now on.
I'm curious as well, do you have a particular diet preference, Ophie?

Well, I would think sushi is ok, because it has to pass much higher quality standards, so it's unlikely they'd use farmed meat. You could always ask.

As for my own diet, I'm pretty much a carnivore, but I LOVE fish. Sushi is one of my very favorite foods, and I've had lots of different and neat kinds of sea creatures to eat.

[JCC]

I'm vegan because I hate people's unfounded hypocrisy about animals, including my own. I wouldn't kill and eat a cat or a dog and yet they've presented nothing that makes them better than a pig or a cow. Millions of pets will get Christmas presents this year, others will be killed and made into Christmas dinner after horrid lives of standing in their own waste in pens too small to lie down in, pumped full of chemicals and shit. I don't have dairy because cows have to be pregnant to produce milk, which means they're going to conceive, and 50% of those calves will be male. These calves are shot. I don't eat eggs because the chickens are fertilised and then lay fertilised eggs so that they have female chicks to keep things going, again, there's going to be males, who tend to just get crushed. Wool, sheep die from premature exposure. Honey, bees are crushed, queen bees are killed regularly. Silk, silkworms are killed. Vegetarianism is for the fucking naive.

Plus, veganism is far more productive, poverty could be wiped out.

[MitsyMayhem]

Originally Posted by Underwater Ophelia

Well, I would think sushi is ok, because it has to pass much higher quality standards, so it's unlikely they'd use farmed meat. You could always ask.

As for my own diet, I'm pretty much a carnivore, but I LOVE fish. Sushi is one of my very favorite foods, and I've had lots of different and neat kinds of sea creatures to eat.

Oh. Whew. I'm good. When I eat fish, it's usually Japanese food. It's a big thing at my house. Traditionally we have ebi. (Not Cali Rolls. They are okay, but I prefer actual raw sushi). I also go to Japan Fest every year. Last time I actually ate two whole platters.

I love fish too. It's my favorite food. Hence, I could never give it up. I really like octopus though. It's chewy, but in a good way. Not like "When can I swallow this thing?!" I've always wanted to try blow fish. But if I do, I'm going to Japan to get it. It's hard to prepare and the American's that attempt it don't get it right and the last thing I want is end up poisoned.

What neat foods have you eaten? I'm genuinely curious.

[MitsyMayhem]

Originally Posted by JCC

I'm vegan because I hate people's unfounded hypocrisy about animals, including my own. I wouldn't kill and eat a cat or a dog and yet they've presented nothing that makes them better than a pig or a cow. Millions of pets will get Christmas presents this year, others will be killed and made into Christmas dinner after horrid lives of standing in their own waste in pens too small to lie down in, pumped full of chemicals and shit. I don't have dairy because cows have to be pregnant to produce milk, which means they're going to conceive, and 50% of those calves will be male. These calves are shot. I don't eat eggs because the chickens are fertilised and then lay fertilised eggs so that they have female chicks to keep things going, again, there's going to be males, who tend to just get crushed. Wool, sheep die from premature exposure. Honey, bees are crushed, queen bees are killed regularly. Silk, silkworms are killed. Vegetarianism is for the fucking naive.

Plus, veganism is far more productive, poverty could be wiped out.

Good explanation.

[Underwater Ophelia]

Originally Posted by MitsyMayhem

Oh. Whew. I'm good. When I eat fish, it's usually Japanese food. It's a big thing at my house. Traditionally we have ebi. (Not Cali Rolls. They are okay, but I prefer actual raw sushi). I also go to Japan Fest every year. Last time I actually ate two whole platters.

I love fish too. It's my favorite food. Hence, I could never give it up. I really like octopus though. It's chewy, but in a good way. Not like "When can I swallow this thing?!" I've always wanted to try blow fish. But if I do, I'm going to Japan to get it. It's hard to prepare and the American's that attempt it don't get it right and the last thing I want is end up poisoned.

What neat foods have you eaten? I'm genuinely curious.

All sorts of fish eggs, raw shellfish on the half-shell, sea urchin.
Most of these things are pretty tame to someone who regularly eats sushi, I should think, but they are strange by supermarket standards.

[Underwater Ophelia]

Originally Posted by JCC

I'm vegan because I hate people's unfounded hypocrisy about animals, including my own. I wouldn't kill and eat a cat or a dog and yet they've presented nothing that makes them better than a pig or a cow. Millions of pets will get Christmas presents this year, others will be killed and made into Christmas dinner after horrid lives of standing in their own waste in pens too small to lie down in, pumped full of chemicals and shit. I don't have dairy because cows have to be pregnant to produce milk, which means they're going to conceive, and 50% of those calves will be male. These calves are shot. I don't eat eggs because the chickens are fertilised and then lay fertilised eggs so that they have female chicks to keep things going, again, there's going to be males, who tend to just get crushed. Wool, sheep die from premature exposure. Honey, bees are crushed, queen bees are killed regularly. Silk, silkworms are killed. Vegetarianism is for the fucking naive.

Plus, veganism is far more productive, poverty could be wiped out.

I'd eat a cat or a dog.

[Jillery]

I have not yet seen the original Wickerman but I'd love to! Unfortunatly I love the Nicholas Cage version *hides*. I generally like any movie though (except chick flicks).

I'm new too, by the way!

[MitsyMayhem]

Originally Posted by Underwater Ophelia

All sorts of fish eggs, raw shellfish on the half-shell, sea urchin.
Most of these things are pretty tame to someone who regularly eats sushi, I should think, but they are strange by supermarket standards.

I've had maybe three different types of fish eggs. Never an urchin, however. Where did you managed to acquire that?
Yes, a bit strange. I should go to the supermarket and ask them for an urchin, and see what they say.

[MitsyMayhem]

Originally Posted by Underwater Ophelia

I'd eat a cat or a dog.

I'd try it, because I love new experiences. However, I'd have to force myself a bit. I'm a crazy cat lover.

[Godslayer Jillian]

Eating an animal still doesn't excuse the unnecessary torture of them.
I'm still a meat eater, but I mention this because I got so fucking mad with some people because of this.
We were talking about bullfighting, and I casually mention that I've been thinking about it recently, and it's nowhere near as bad as hat we do to animals we eat.
Then everyone proceeded to saying that it's different because it's for food.
FOOLS!
It's one of the most fucking stupid things I've heard to think that just because they're used as food it forgives all the shit that they go through, like being skinned alive, *****, opened, have their talons shredded, make them lay eggs until their uteruses are expelled from their bodies...

[JCC]

Originally Posted by MitsyMayhem

I'd try it, because I love new experiences. However, I'd have to force myself a bit. I'm a crazy cat lover.

Why would you force yourself to kill something you apparently 'love'?

Originally Posted by Godslayer Jillian

Eating an animal still doesn't excuse the unnecessary torture of them.
I'm still a meat eater, but I mention this because I got so fucking mad with some people because of this.
We were talking about bullfighting, and I casually mention that I've been thinking about it recently, and it's nowhere near as bad as hat we do to animals we eat.
Then everyone proceeded to saying that it's different because it's for food.
FOOLS!
It's one of the most fucking stupid things I've heard to think that just because they're used as food it forgives all the shit that they go through, like being skinned alive, *****, opened, have their talons shredded, make them lay eggs until their uteruses are expelled from their bodies...

Yeah, people's hypocrisy is bullshit. People get prosecuted for keeping hens in too small conditions when it's in their back yard, in factories there are no rules.

[TheSomnambulist]

You're right, JCC, vegetarianism is hypocrisy. Unfortunately, I had to start eating dairy products when I entered college because I discovered that everything has some kind of dairy in it, or some kind of meat. Everything in the cafeteria is cross-contaminated with what is next to it. I constantly feel like a horrible person for eating things with dairy, but there's nothing else to consume. I'm considering just buying my own food, but the money I had to spend on a mandatory meal plan will be going to waste. I have no idea.

[Godslayer Jillian]

You could change that. Over here we're pushing for more vegan options. It seems they're going to put a cafeteria with more options by next year.

[Underwater Ophelia]

Originally Posted by MitsyMayhem

I've had maybe three different types of fish eggs. Never an urchin, however. Where did you managed to acquire that?
Yes, a bit strange. I should go to the supermarket and ask them for an urchin, and see what they say.

I had it in a Japanese restaurant.

[Underwater Ophelia]

Originally Posted by JCC

Why would you force yourself to kill something you apparently 'love'?

You don't have to eat your own cat to eat a cat.

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