Hollywood... What are they thinking?

[tenet_2012]

I hate making new threads but what the fuck?

I just seen a preview of a Larry the Cable Movie... (I'll let that sink in)

Will people actually go see this? Yes, they will and that is sad. People will watch any crap that Hollywood will throw at them.

Fucking sad!

[Reject_Bunnies]

Proof that people will shell out money for anything Hollywood offers them:
"CATWOMAN"

"It's official: Hollywood has run out of ideas
What's next, "Pootie Tang 2"?

2006 may go down as the year of
sequels and remakes nobody was clamoring for.

Basic Instinct 2
Behind Enemy Lines II: Land of the Morning Calm
Big Momma's House 2
Casino Royale
Clerks 2: The Passion of the Clerks
Creepshow 3
The Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift
Final Destination 3
Garfield's A Tale of Two Kitties
The Grudge 2
Halloween: Retribution
Highlander: The Source
Ice Age 2: The Meltdown
Jackass: The Movie 2
Mad Max 4
Madea's Family Reunion
Mission Impossible III
Mortal Kombat: Devastation
Mrs. Doubtfire 2
Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest
The Pink Panther
The Punisher 2
Rocky Balboa
The Santa Clause 3
Saw III
Scary Movie 4
Sin City 2
Superman Returns
Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Beginning
Underworld: Evolution
White Noise 2: The Light
X-Men 3
Young Hannibal: Behind the Mask

Remakes:
Creature from the Black Lagoon
The Flash
Flicka
The Hills Have Eyes
I Married a Witch
The Incredible Shrinking Man
Last Holiday
Omen 666
Poseidon
School for Scoundrels
The Secret Life of Walter Mitty
The Shaggy Dog
She's The Man (remake of "Just One of the Guys")
Slither
The Warriors
When A Stranger Calls
The Wicker Man

TV Show Retreads
Dallas
Get Smart
I Dream of Jeannie
Miami Vice

and in 2007 Warner Brothers will give us another installment of "Police Academy." Somebody please stop them.
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[Shi'ark]

Originally Posted by Reject_Bunnies

Clerks 2: The Passion of the Clerks

Im looking forword to that one

Halloween: Retribution
Highlander: The Source

What! more of them, why?

The Pink Panther

isn't this a remake

Superman Returns
Young Hannibal: Behind the Mask

Again why bother, anless you can get hold of the actors who made those rolls great?

TV Show Retreads
Dallas
Get Smart
I Dream of Jeannie
Miami Vice

Why must they pague humanity with this

[ennui]

I'm looking forward to seeing the Libertine....and...um....gack you're right! It is a sad reflection on our culture/society, because Hollywood wouldn't be spewing garbage if people weren't eating it up. Still, I wont lose hope there are always a few good ones, Indies and Hollywood made alike that slip through. If not, there is always the Foreign Film section at Blockbuster.

[Beowulf]

"Hollywood is too frightened to take a leap at quality movies. It's a shame that they're pandering to the stupid masses."

I agree with you GeishaGirl,

That is because the major studios are all run by corporations, who base all of their production descisions on demographics and profit, by releasing films that they consider `safe` to make on the principle of `If it aint broke dont fix it` (which explains the myriad of dodgy sequels that we are subjected to every year, Reject Bunnies list certifies that).

Why do good films need to be re-made anyway, is there some taboo about an older release being on the silver screen again.

Why can`t they just re-release the films for the cinema instead of remaking them, it would be cheaper, and give the film a chance to be seen how the directors intended, in the cinema.

It would be nice to see some fresh ideas for films again, there are so many books, comics, myths, legends, and historical events that would keep them busy making a wide variety of films for decades.

[Binkie]

The old versions aren't flashy enough for younger audiences. They don't star anyone they're too familiar with and those movies aren't packed with enough sex, commercial products, or violence.

The entire sequel thing is just a result of Marketing 101. The majority doesn't want to watch movies that are smarter than they are. It's much more profitable to throw out lackluster movies with "suprise" endings that audiences grasp without misconception. Every once in a while though, a prominent figure in Hollywood will branch out and do something creative, but for the most part this is what's to be expected.

Sad thing is that at the other end of the spectrum are Sundance and Indie films, which are sometimes a little too creative in their avant garde approach, or not inspiring enough in their ho-hum premises.

More people need to branch out and grab that middle ground.

[Pathogen.]

Another "Police Academy" sequel? "I Dream Of Jeannie" the motion picture?!! "The Santa Clause 3"?!! Who would be idiotic enough to pay $10 to see that in a theatre?!! This definitely hows that Hollywood's creativity [if any existed in the past 5 years] has run fucking dry. So what's next, "Gilligan's Island" the motion picture?!! Damn!

[Phayte]

Who give a shit what Hollywood sells? Some of it's funny, some of it's good and some of it sucks. Those movies arn't automatically bad just because you don't happen to like them. It's entertainment. Grab some popcorn and laugh a little. Don't worry.. watching pointless movies that don't make you think won't make you any less "gawth"

[JuliaGaltic]

Oh my god Reject!!! I thought you were being funny and making up sequels and remakes to make a point.... until I recognized a few of them!

That is the most pathetic movie list I've seen in a loooong time. There are a few I want to see, but the others? DAMN!

[Reject_Bunnies]

I really wish that it had just been a joke,
but prepare yourself for:"The Santa Clause 3"
coming soon to a theatre near you.

[Binkie]

Originally Posted by GeishaGirl

It's not a question of being goth, you nit. It's a matter of intellect. You don't mind corporate america pandering mindless drivel to you, that's your opinion. But for the majority here, we'd like to see some movies with substance. Something that draws us in, fucks with our heads and leaves us in a daze. THAT'S a good movie.

Yep.

Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.

I'm all for taking my brain out durring a movie or two, but I'd like to see more films that had some thought and research put into them. That just shows that someone actually gave half a shit and tried. And alot of times the smartest and most intriguing films tend to be those which are based on books. Writen by people who aren't trying to apease studios. If that's the way Hollywood needs to go, so be it.

I mean, at the end of the day it's all personal opinion, but I'd just rather not lower my standards to enjoy something as simple as a film. I can and will in this day and age, because you're not going to come across smart films all that often, but really, the film industry needs to change their act, not the viewers.

[Loy]

On one hand Binkie, I'd like to agree with you. Actually, I do. (no it's not a first). The problem is that whilst most people CLAIM they want better movies to be made, they don't actually SEE the better movies. (as I pointed out with my "Hills Have Eyes" review, how many "Tim Burton is a genius" pop up here every few months?). Whilst we can complain that the industry needs to clean up a bit, I say it won't unless audiences are going to demand better films (or if the studio system falls again....hell, look what came out during the 70's. Remember-"Taxi Driver" was a major studio film!)

As for finding better films.....OK, I have it easier than most people here (I live in Seattle, home of SIFF and Scarecrow Video), but as I said a few months ago, I was asked to put together a "1,000 films you must see before you die" list. Now, I'll admit that my tastes are a bit more wide ranging and....ummm....offbeat, but I figured that A-I can do it better than anybody else here, and B-I already am doing it. So when the list goes up, I'll try to include distribution info for everybody.....now everybody else can enjoy the wonders of Fassbinder, Fred Olen Ray, and Youseff Chahine, just like me!

[Binkie]

True, Geisha. They butcher the fuck out of those books, but they seem to be the best bets for the big screen these days... with quite a few exceptions of course.

[Binkie]

Originally Posted by Loy

I say it won't unless audiences are going to demand better films (or if the studio system falls again....hell, look what came out during the 70's. Remember-"Taxi Driver" was a major studio film!)

Agreed. They're high hopes, but if anything worth while is to emerge, it'll be out of the indie selection or perhaps a studio production that's willing to risk the loses (in this case, as as already been mentioned, Lion's Gate Films tends to take those risks).

And if you ever get that list finally assembled, Loy, throw it up here if you will. I need some direction in what I rent and watch.

[tenet_2012]

The last good movie that I seen in theaters was "Serenity". I usually see one movie a week and that movie was released like three months ago.

The biggest disappoint ever was "Narnia" by far. Oh God how that movie sucked.

Why did they cancel "Firefly" anyway?

[Magpie_Tendencies]

I loved the book and the original movie but I don't like the re-make. The fight scenes seemed to go on just a little too long to hold my attention. The actors were better this time though.

[Phayte]

Originally Posted by GeishaGirl

It's not a question of being goth, you nit. It's a matter of intellect. You don't mind corporate america pandering mindless drivel to you, that's your opinion. But for the majority here, we'd like to see some movies with substance. Something that draws us in, fucks with our heads and leaves us in a daze. THAT'S a good movie.

I was actually trying to be funny. No shit it has nothing to do with being goth.


I love movies that draw you in and make you think. I love silly comedys. I love romance. I love horror. I love cartoons.
I guess I just didn't see a need for someone to start a thread telling us all how much he hates what Hollywood is putting out. It's a one sided story. There are a lot of good movies out there. Smart, funny or dumb they are still good movies, but apparently people can't like those movies. If we do we are the mindless masses shelling out our hard earned cash to make corporate america richer.
That is too much damn crap to think about for a fuckin movie. It's entertainment! Enjoy it or don't watch it. Simple as that.

[tenet_2012]

I think I'm in love...

[Shi'ark]

Hollywood’s latest trick to fill up them sets the last few years have been biographies. They’ve been around for a while but is only now that studio boss’s have clocked on that with the right amount of marketing lots of money can be made by telling a the true, or supposedly true story, of some one famous. Before this biographies were more likely to be TV or not high profile films but that didn’t make all of the bad. The films about Charley Chaplin’s and Bruce Lee’s lives were great even though they didn’t make a lot of money.

I liked Ray and Walk the line, but as they were Oscar nominated I hear biographies on almost everyone in music are being planed. Elijah Wood is going to be Iggy Pop… is this even a good idea? When will the madness end.

At lest the now they seem to be casting actors who not only have to act like, but also have to sound like the person they’re portraying. Who remembers the bad miming in the Tina Turner bio.

Now is this good or is this bad?

Good: the stories of some very iconic people are being told to the masses.

Bad: it all part of the Hollywood money making monster that will soon be giving us one piece of crap after another.

[Shi'ark]

Originally Posted by GeishaGirl

Oh I've been waiting for this particular biography!

http://www.sneakpeektv.com/id287.html

It's about damn time.

I’ll put this in the good bio pile.

[tenet_2012]

I love Bettie!

I have a hot pink t-shirt with this image of her on it:

[ExistentialDisorder]

I don't see the big deal, or why everyone gets their panties in a wad over holywood trash. A lot of movies today are shit, granted. with the same story line, same melodrama, etc etc. and more and more it's all a remake.

reject's list should have superman returns listed under the remake heading too, since it technically is a remake. i'm sure its reason for release is due in part to the extreme popularity of Smallville, which personally I think is a good show, usually. It has its really bad moments tho and i nearly want to puke at the end of most every show for that "touching, family bondage moment" they always have to throw in with clark and his folks. well, his mom now, since his dad's dead.

[ExistentialDisorder]

ok, how that got posted before i was done, dunno. i hit a key by accident. anyway...

the point is, if you don't want to see it, don't. it's that simple. no one is forcing you to. if you think the best movies ever made were 1970 and earlier, or only indie/euro films, or whatever, fine. go watch those and ignore the rest. it's your choice.

holywood isn't one giant corporation. there's a ton of movie studios in it. so to say everything that comes from holywood is shit just because it comes from holywood is ignorant.

personally i like watching a film primarily for the visual effects/cgi they throw in. holywood films are the best source for that, simply because they can afford it. it's rare to find an independant or foreign film that can afford the technology that goes into making it - if it comes from a country that even has that technology available to them to begin with. but that aspect of films covers such a broad territory it's hard to have a conversation about it. sometimes a film can be visually spectacular simply for the way it's shot, with zero cgi or post manipulation. special effects are a lot more cost effective today than they were just 5 years ago tho, so more and more films are incorporating them. in some cases it can actually be cheaper, but that's not very often.

It's all a matter of what is more important to you as far as your motives behind watching a particular film. if you're in it primarily for the story, then visuals probably shouldn't mean a whole lot, and you're fine with lower budget flicks. but the acting and direction will play a big part of it in order to keep it appealing and have it make sense. plus, it doesn't matter what the story is about, there's only seven genres that it can fall into and still make sense. that's it. after a while, you're going to have the same plot line recycled, in some manner.

No producer is in the market to lose money. So they're going to make what the majority of the population will watch. The american population is holywood's largest audience. and look what they're watching most every night. Fucking reality shows.

[Phayte]

Whatever.. I didn't mean it's entertainment to you. I meant it's "called" entertainment. But oh well. I give up. I can't really have a conversation with people who get irritated so easily. It would just become me defending myself and I dont need to do that.

[Empty_Purple_Stars]

I get what your saying Phayte, it's all good..

Everyone here, yourself included, is perfectly entitled to their opinion.

Don't ever feel like you can't express what you think.

Regardless..

I'll add my two cents later when I'm not delirious..