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Old 03-30-2008, 07:23 AM   #551
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Wow, way to shirk personal responsibility.

If you get caught in a scam it's because you didn't do your homework. Like usual stern you spew the same bs. It's big business it's the govt... blah blah blah. Stop with your socialist bs.

Next, when was the last time I touted the economy? Not in a very long time. But, tax cuts do work. They worked for your homeland didn't they mrs stern?

As far as me needing help from my parents. Yeah, a long time ago when I was 17 and shitty with money. That's a bit different than getting over my head in housing debt and over extending my credit at the age of 40. And no, my parents did stop a foreclosure, pay for my housing, pay for my car or even give me money. They gave me a place to stay for three weeks while I changed jobs after getting laid off. Bottom line I was a kid, I was stupid with money and didn't save a dime of what I earned. I've learned my lesson and moved on. It's a far cry form the problems your mentioning. At least I didn't fail in another country and had to travel back across the ocean with my tail between my legs. Also I didn't need to blame everyone but myself for my problems. You on the other hand, blame everyone within earshot and are still raving mad to this day about your problems that you think others caused.

Yeah, also how your funny about dodging decent rebukes to your shitty statements.

"Stupid Americans" As I said earlier, keep posting keep raving, keep insulting and more and more people will see who you really are.

The only candidate who's talking about reforming the finances of the govt is McCain. Cutting federal govt down and cutting their spending. Eliminating earmarks and getting them out in the light. And before you only accuse the right wing of this, both sides are equally guilty. he's also commented on shutting down gitmo and letting the lower parts of govt have more authority over foreign affairs, such as authorization of war and upholding treaties.

And you can't comprehend what an increase in corporate tax will do to the economy? Honestly, where were you schooled? Probably public, maybe US schools. How did ireland get out of their recession again? Please tell the people. I said.. and maybe you should re-read what I typed, is that the economy is not well now and if the next guy gets in raises taxes, we're all screwed. What part of that did you not understand? Too many vowels? Too complex an idea for you? You're so frothing at the mouth about bush you think I'm blaming the next guy about what's happening now.
This sums up what's happening pretty well from everything I've read to date.
http://answers.**********/question/i...5004836AA7mGAP

http://www.homescape.com/content/Blo...sing_Crisis%3F

You have very childish and simplistic views of the world. You want a parental figure to control your every move so you can feel safe and secure. You want a big govt, but yet rally against the current govt and ineptitude. So which is it stern? Please be concise.
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Old 03-31-2008, 02:58 AM   #552
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Wow, way to shirk personal responsibility... if you get caught in a scam it's because you didn't do your homework. Like usual stern you spew the same bs. It's big business it's the govt... blah blah blah.
I'm all for personal responsibility. So the bush administration gave private banks 200 billion in bail outs and then let the fed loan another 37 million to banks off the books. Does your 'personal responsibility' being and end with just the American people? Is it ok for the government to screw the people, because if they aren't smart enough to figure it out they are getting screwed, then they should be made to suffer?

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Next, when was the last time I touted the economy? Not in a very long time. But, tax cuts do work. They worked for your homeland didn't they mrs stern?
Ummm...no. I addressed this in another thread. Until you reduce you deficit and reduce tax on individuals then giving tax cuts to big businesses has the opposite effect. Again, you can't take out the other two factors and expect it to work - it's like making a cake and leaving out two main ingredients and respecting it to be ok.

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As far as me needing help from my parents. Yeah, a long time ago when I was 17 and shitty with money. That's a bit different than getting over my head in housing debt and over extending my credit at the age of 40. And no, my parents did stop a foreclosure, pay for my housing, pay for my car or even give me money. They gave me a place to stay for three weeks while I changed jobs after getting laid off. Bottom line I was a kid, I was stupid with money and didn't save a dime of what I earned. I've learned my lesson and moved on. It's a far cry form the problems your mentioning.
The bottom line is you are attacking your fellow countrymen for doing the same thing. You think being young is a proper excuse? You say it's different than people who are 40 and have it happen. Is it really? Before I even break down that statement, lets address the fact you now claim that all the foreclosures in America are happening to people over 40 who are just naive.

The reality is, there are many reasons the people are defaulting. Predatory lending is the big issue. Banks are being fined by the government, and the FBI is investigating. If it weren't criminal, just stupidity, do you think they would be doing all of that?

More importantly, its not just ignorant 40 year olds as you would assert. The question I have is what if its another 17 or 19 year old who is in the exact situation you were in? You can't tell me a few of theover a MILLION who have had this happen couldn't possibly be in the same situation as you were? I mean, statistically speaking, at least one or more persons currently affected fall into the same category as you described - young kid, got in over their head, and ended up needing help.

So why is it you now hate these people? These fellow countrymen who are literally going through the exact same thing? Why is it you talk down about them and make it sound like you are so much better? What - another 17 year old screws up like you did and they don't have parents who can bail them out, so that makes you better than them? Maybe they should have been porn into a better family, eh? Thats what your implying. You also have again tried to elevate who you are above the people around you. You talk down about Americans like you are somehow superior. You talk about your fellow countrymen like your talking about the lowest caste in India. People who are experiencing the same hardships you personally experience, somehow you think your are superior to them.

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At least I didn't fail in another country and had to travel back across the ocean with my tail between my legs. Also I didn't need to blame everyone but myself for my problems. You on the other hand, blame everyone within earshot and are still raving mad to this day about your problems that you think others caused.
Heh nice try. I made my first million before I was 29. How about you?

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"Stupid Americans" As I said earlier, keep posting keep raving, keep insulting and more and more people will see who you really are.
I'm not the one complaining about Americans, nor am I the one who is claiming I am superior to them.

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The only candidate who's talking about reforming the finances of the govt is McCain. Cutting federal govt down and cutting their spending. Eliminating earmarks and getting them out in the light. And before you only accuse the right wing of this, both sides are equally guilty. he's also commented on shutting down gitmo and letting the lower parts of govt have more authority over foreign affairs, such as authorization of war and upholding treaties.
So what? When bush was running he said he would not invade other nations. He said he would not increase the deficit. He said a lot of stuff, then did 100% the opposite. In fact, here is one of my favourite clips of bush, debating...himself!

http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/in...e=bush-v.-bush

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And you can't comprehend what an increase in corporate tax will do to the economy? Honestly, where were you schooled? Probably public, maybe US schools. How did ireland get out of their recession again? Please tell the people. I said.. and maybe you should re-read what I typed, is that the economy is not well now and if the next guy gets in raises taxes, we're all screwed. What part of that did you not understand? Too many vowels? Too complex an idea for you? You're so frothing at the mouth about bush you think I'm blaming the next guy about what's happening now.
I took 500 level (masters) econ @ Radford University, where I went to school for six years before getting my degree(s). Per your Ireland statement, again, apples and oranges - you leaving out the most important two parts of the equation there and expecting to get the same answer.

Second, you already blaming the 'next guy' when its the guy who is in power now who screwed the economy. Your country has the biggest debt ever, and is running the biggest deficit ever. Your money value is dropping faster than ever. Your dire financial straits were caused by these corporate tax cuts and deficit spending (Keynesian economics - Google it). Did you see my post about the 53 billion dollar asteroid?

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/US/03/26...cit/index.html

You might want to read that before you say too much more about your corporate tax cuts.

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You have very childish and simplistic views of the world. You want a parental figure to control your every move so you can feel safe and secure. You want a big govt, but yet rally against the current govt and ineptitude. So which is it stern? Please be concise.
Are you really that confused? I'm a Marxist. I'm a socialist - how it is you think I favour large government is beyond me. I want my government to fund the people by using tax dollars for domestic improvements. That doesn't mean I want them doing anything else.

To allude I support any type of big government is silly. Tis why I moved from America. I didn't want 1/3 of my tax dollars going to pay for the deaths of innocent people around the world.
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Old 03-31-2008, 02:11 PM   #553
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Nice talking points. As far as your degrees, bullshit. I've heard more intelligent conversations from the disabled.

Spin, spin, spin... If you're so not bashing Americans why is it that everything you post is negative? Is it to educate us? Think not. You have a grudge because you failed here. There wasn't a big brother govt to hold your hand. You have millions? Yeah, and I'm the incredible hulk. What a pathetic liar. Face it stern you are and always will be just another angry person with a grudge. Just remember you reap what you sow.
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Old 04-01-2008, 05:55 AM   #554
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Heh - so the only thing you can come up with is...you don't believe me. Again. Looks like you put lots of effort into that retort.
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Old 04-01-2008, 04:35 PM   #555
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Yeah, I give the effort needed, that I feel is necessary for the cause. And yeah, little effort means I think it's completely unworthy of my time. Time, not money, is the most valuable commodity in the world. Once given can never be gotten back. Therefore I won't waste it on frauds and charlatans.
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Old 04-02-2008, 02:34 AM   #556
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Since you have nothing more to input, I'll continue...

Only 1 of 2 students graduate high school in US cities: study

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WASHINGTON (AFP) - Three out of 10 US public school students do not graduate from high school, and major city school districts only graduate one out of two students, according to a study released Tuesday.

In a report on graduation rates around the country, the EPE Research Center and the America Promise Alliance also showed that the high school graduation rate -- finishing 12 grades of school -- in big cities falls to as low as just 34.6 percent in Baltimore, Maryland, and barely over 40 percent for the troubled Ohio cities of Columbus and Cleveland.

And it said that black and native American student's have effectively a one-in-two chance of getting a high school diploma.

"Our analysis finds that graduating from high school in America's largest cities amounts, essentially, to a coin toss," the study said.

"Only about one-half (52 percent) of students in the principal school systems of the 50 largest cities complete high school with a diploma."

Based on 2003-2004 data, the report said that across the country the graduation average for public school students is 69.9 percent, with the best success rate in suburbs -- 74.9 percent -- and rural districts -- 73.2 percent.

Asian-Americans score the highest graduation rate, at 80 percent, with whites at 76.2 percent and Hispanics at 57.8 percent.

Women graduate at a much higher rate than men, 73.6 percent to 66.0 percent.

In the country's city schools, the study found that in urban areas generally, just 60.4 percent graduate, and in the principal school districts of the top 50 cities, barely half graduate.

Detroit, Michigan's main school district scored a graduation rate of 24.9 percent.

New York, the country's largest city, has a graduation rate for its main school district of 45.2 percent, and Los Angeles, the second largest, of 45.3 percent.

Only five of the principal school districts topped the national average.



Is it any wonder that in the cities over 50% of kids are dropping out? I mean, the government is ignoring schools. You have schools that are falling apart, that have no books, that are rife with crime and drugs. You have armed guards there, locker searches, metal detectors - all of which use the funding that is supposed to be going to better the students.

It's a wonder more aren't leaving.
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Old 04-05-2008, 05:56 PM   #557
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Who runs the schools? Who runs the local govts? And who exactly do you want to keep doing that?

Yeah, govt's the problem not the solution.
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