Obama Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Albert Mond]

Originally Posted by Sir. Helpmann

mixed race is mixed race, black is black.

Barack Obama is not black... he's mixed race. Like I said, the electorate wouldn't have voted in a black man.

But they could handle a mixed race candidate because it would make them feel "liberal" for supporting him. But ultimately they would have been too racist to vote in a pure black candidate, and that's the reason probably that he was able to be chosen.

It's simply shrewd politics, and I like to watch it. But I don't take it at face value.

It's all a carefully devised plan by "powerful people" who have gone to Harvard, Yale, Oxford, Cambridge etc... Smart people who know their sociology and how to tweak the electorate via the power of mass psychology.

Not very many black people run. If I recall right, the last one was Jesse Jackson. Rather crazy guy.
And I guess everybody's "mixed race".

[Sir. Helpmann]

Originally Posted by Albert Mond

Not very many black people run. If I recall right, the last one was Jesse Jackson. Rather crazy guy.
And I guess everybody's "mixed race".

No, not everyone is mixed race. To some degree possibly.

But I never said that.

[Albert Mond]

Originally Posted by Sir. Helpmann

No, not everyone is mixed race. To some degree possibly.

But I never said that.

I did, though. And, again, his father was black and his mother was white.
If a man has brown eyes, he has brown eyes.

[Sir. Helpmann]

Originally Posted by Albert Mond

I did, though. And, again, his father was black and his mother was white.
If a man has brown eyes, he has brown eyes.

If a man has dark brown skin he is considered black.

Barack Obama hasn't got dark brown skin.

He's mixed race.

[Albert Mond]

Originally Posted by Sir. Helpmann

If a man has dark brown skin he is considered black.

Barack Obama hasn't got dark brown skin.

He's mixed race.

Dark brown's 'ebony'. Barack is black.
EDIT: Just Googled "ebony" to verify it, and the results had some lighter than way-dark skinned chicks. Not sure, now.

[MollyMac]

No, Obama is not black. He is mixed race.

It has nothing to do with the tone of his skin, there are people of Negroid/Nubian descent that are albino (And albinos are, like, totally unelectable). I cannot call him African American as a qualifier, although he is more African American than those who claim the term cor P. C. purposes- but Charlize Theron is more African American than Obama, given that set of circumstances.) How, oh how, can we label our next president?

It has to do with his heritage, to a degree.

Obama is not black in the way that many Americans view the Black culture. Obama is a mixed race man, part Caucasian, part Negroid, part African descent, part North American descent. He does not have the shared history of slavery that many "Black" persons in America have. He barely has the shared history of Civil Rights struggles. He does not have that perceived chip on his shoulder of the black man's burden.

Barack Obama is electable because he does not represent the Black community en toto, he was electable because he only represents it on the surface. He was a safe choice, one that would not allow "the Blacks to take over", as I have heard said so much in what I thought was my liberal neighborhood.

But as to him as a president? I didn't vote for him, but I put the same amout of faith in him that every president gets, whether I vote for them or not. The bare minimum, and my respect for his position. I think he believes in what he says, and he may accomplish more then I am aware of with a Democrat headed congress, but anyone that expects sweeping change or a paradigm shift should sit back and relax.

[HumanePain]

Originally Posted by Sir. Helpmann

There's not a concept, idea... or a word that you could explain to me that I do not already know.

I hate to sound arrogant but it's true.

Humility...obviously.

[Albert Mond]

Originally Posted by MollyMac

No, Obama is not black. He is mixed race.

"Mixed race" is extremely vague.

[Metabolik]

Originally Posted by Sodaspes

BUSH CAN ROT IN HELL!!!! Sarah palin can suck and sit on my dick. She's hott!!!!!

Are you fucking stupid?

Although I do agree, I'm glad Obama has been elected.
I think he may be the kind of leader America have needed.
Although I'm not sure about his intentions for the country, I guess i should find out, I was thinking for more ethnical reasons.

[Underwater Ophelia]

Originally Posted by Albert Mond

"Mixed race" is extremely vague.

Not if you know what it means.
I guess you don't.

[MollyMac]

Mixed race is mixed race. It can be halfsies like Obama- Obama is mixed race, part Caucasian, part Negroid. It can be any number of fractions of races or even some Ethnicities thrown together in the heat of the moment or matrimonial duty. It is vague because it has no choice but to be.

[Albert Mond]

Originally Posted by MollyMac

Mixed race is mixed race. It can be halfsies like Obama- Obama is mixed race, part Caucasian, part Negroid. It can be any number of fractions of races or even some Ethnicities thrown together in the heat of the moment or matrimonial duty. It is vague because it has no choice but to be.

Exactly. Which is why it's not an entirely valid description of Obama. I mean, if you had a Jewish grandfather and your mother and father are both Scotch, you can be qualified as "Mixed Race". The point is, I think if there's a Heaven (lol, Heaven) MLK's up there saying "Wow. A black President. Who'da thunk it?"

[MollyMac]

Yes, you can be mixed race at that point. Hell, until the turn of last century, most of the SOuthern US qualified a black person by the "just one drop" rule. Meaning that even if you "passed" for white, had white parents, and white grandparents, if your great, great grandmother was known to be black- so were you.

Good that they cleared that up, took the guess work out og Jim Crow.

Obama is not Black per se, but he is black enough to make a statement, but safe enough for the status quo to feel good about themselves.

[HumanePain]

I got my first hair-raising dose of Obama Reality today: on the news Obama said he had received an intelligence briefing and now says that Iran must not be allowed to develop nuclear weapons.

Often times events are bigger than any one person can control. We may still be headed towards conflict with Iran no matter which party is in control.

World peace may be just as far out of reach now as it was under Bush.

[MollyMac]

Nah, if my neighbors are right, Obama and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad are like, brothers, and are plotting against us behind the scenes. All glory and greatness be unto communist China, all thanks to communists for buying our debt!

[HumanePain]

Haha! Maaaaaallllllly, you seem a bit tipsy tonight. If I wasn't married I'd try and take advantage of your draught filled red head! Ha! How many fingers am I holding up?

http://wheresdezzer.googlepages.com/7_fingers.JPG

[MollyMac]

Those aren't fingers, officer.

[Godslayer Jillian]

Originally Posted by MollyMac

Obama is not Black per se, but he is black enough to make a statement, but safe enough for the status quo to feel good about themselves.

Exactly. (miarz)

[Jonathan]

Safe enough for the status quo? Compared to what?

Were there auditions before the three bears? "Too black; not quite black enough; oh finally, just right!"

[Sir. Helpmann]

Originally Posted by Jonathan

Safe enough for the status quo? Compared to what?

Were there auditions before the three bears? "Too black; not quite black enough; oh finally, just right!"

I wouldn't be surprised.

[Godslayer Jillian]

Originally Posted by Jonathan

Safe enough for the status quo? Compared to what?

Jesse Jackson and MLK?

[Saya]

Originally Posted by Sir. Helpmann

If a man has dark brown skin he is considered black.

Barack Obama hasn't got dark brown skin.

He's mixed race.

Race is a social construct. Here in the west if a man has dark skin, yes most people will say he's black. We lump all people of African descent together. If its based on ancestry, then yes he is mixed, but most people are. If its based on appearances, he's a black man. Its completely subjective.

[Lolly PopMuzik]

Originally Posted by MollyMac

Yes, you can be mixed race at that point. Hell, until the turn of last century, most of the SOuthern US qualified a black person by the "just one drop" rule. Meaning that even if you "passed" for white, had white parents, and white grandparents, if your great, great grandmother was known to be black- so were you.

Good that they cleared that up, took the guess work out og Jim Crow.

Not that it made Plessy vs Ferguson any difficult either. :P

[Murasaki eyeliner]

i know allmost nothing about american politics so im not going to go in depth.

all im going to say is good luck obama because no-one can be worse than george bush*


*unless michall jackson runs for president.

[JCC]

Originally Posted by Murasaki eyeliner

*unless michall jackson runs for president.

Yeah, allegedly having given a consensual thirteen year old a handjob would make him a far worse president than a war criminal mass-murderer.

You were right. You know astonishingly little of American politics.