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[Malice In Wonderland]

Originally Posted by Alarica

Catch - reinventing an entire subculture, clothes, names and all.

Catch, you aren't even capable of dressing yourself properly. You'd make a hash of getting into a body bag.

Let's hope she at least gets there eventually...

[Catch]

Okay fine, but "mall goth" is just a term from SLC Punk for "mall punks." Nothing in Goth opposes being superfical or buying your religion.

[Malice In Wonderland]

Originally Posted by Catch

Okay fine, but "mall goth" is just a term from SLC Punk for "mall punks." Nothing in Goth opposes being superfical or buying your religion.

It's roots in punk do.

[Bete Noire]

Originally Posted by Catch

Okay fine, but "mall goth" is just a term from SLC Punk for "mall punks." Nothing in Goth opposes being superfical or buying your religion.

Proof that not all opinions are equal...

[Catch]

It would be nice if more people shared their opinions as their own opinions, instead of, trying to back their arguement with the whole Goth Culture. I will also do the same; however, the next post is always someone saying what Goths do or don't do.

[Malice In Wonderland]

Originally Posted by Catch

It would be nice if more people shared their opinions as their own opinions, instead of, trying to back their arguement with the whole Goth Culture. I will also do the same; however, the next post is always someone saying what Goths do or don't do.

Catch, reading your posts makes me want to gouge my eyes and ears out and feed them to my little sister's gerbils so as not to punish them anymore.

Just listen to the majority of Gnet and stop.

[Bete Noire]

Originally Posted by Catch

the next post is always someone saying what Goths do or don't do.

You're the one re-defining everything in goth in a desperate attempt to cast the fishnet web far enough to encompass you as you hide under your rock of delusion.

[Catch]

I didn't start it. However, yes I'm guilty. Either way, I'm getting tired of it. Seems like the people who are most liberal and delluted with media slogans are taking over and it's really bothering me.

[Bete Noire]

Originally Posted by Catch

I didn't start it. However, yes I'm guilty. Either way, I'm getting tired of it. Seems like the people who are most liberal and delluted with media slogans are taking over and it's really bothering me.

I didn't say you started it, I just pointed out that you weren't blame-free.
At least using a term like "mall-goth" is reasonably accurate.

Dragging the skin-flaps of the term "goth" waaay out so that you can hide under their shadow is a little different.

I am intrigued though - what is goth to you??

[Catch]

Artistry, suffering, depression, supernatural, openess, fantasy, modern, technology and other keywords.

Unforetunately, it is also a culture that is totally blind to the fact that have isolated themselves, become kin to awful things and will eventually end up like rockers who primarily work in the sex industry, because there is no community bond.

[Catch]

What do you think Goth is?

[Tam Li Hua]

Catch: I think you need to read a little history of what was going on in the late '60s to find out what started the hippie movement in the first place.

Hippies making barriers? Seriously? They were the ones trying to break them down with peace, love, and weed...

[Duane]

The name is fine the way it is.

[Alarica]

Originally Posted by Catch

What do you think Goth is?

Not you, that's for sure.

[Catch]

Originally Posted by Tam Li Hua

Catch: I think you need to read a little history of what was going on in the late '60s to find out what started the hippie movement in the first place.

Hippies making barriers? Seriously? They were the ones trying to break them down with peace, love, and weed...

"the man," "sellout," "don't trust anyone over thirty," and "your vote doesn't matter," yep people trying to control the masses and give up their individuality. They also attacked soldiers returning from the war, though recognizing that soldiers didn't start the wars and are victims already.

[Tam Li Hua]

Catch: Well, when 'the man' was Nixon, they had a lot to worry about, "sellout" I don't think has anything to do with hippies, "don't trust anyone over thirty" died out with Woodstock, and honestly, I'm not entirely sure that our votes -do- matter, and I'm certainly not a hippie.

Also, I think you're taking hippies and flower children faaaaaar to seriously.

Edit: Also, I've never heard anything about hippies "controlliing the masses" or trying to make folks "give up their individuality", much less about attacking soldiers coming home from the war.

What history book are you getting this out of?

[Mealla]

Originally Posted by Godslayer Jillian

You people are actually trying to be rational with Catch?

Good point.

[Pyre]

Originally Posted by Catch

Artistry, suffering, depression, supernatural, openess, fantasy, modern, technology and other keywords.

Unforetunately, it is also a culture that is totally blind to the fact that have isolated themselves, become kin to awful things and will eventually end up like rockers who primarily work in the sex industry, because there is no community bond.

I don't understand why "suffering" and "depression" are always associated with goth. They have NOTHING to do with being part of the Goth subculture. The only thing we suffer of is people like you who blatantly do not understand the subculture, and yet you not only believe you are part of it, but you try reforming and molding it to the same opinion as society. Also, supernatural and fantasy? What is supernatural or fantastic about being Goth? Maybe you are confusing them with vampires.

Mall goths are not real goths. Mall goths are typically Mansonites and avid Hot Topic fans. Hot Topic failed to try reproducing the culture of Goth and produced a bastardized version most common among young teens.

[Bete Noire]

Originally Posted by Catch

Artistry, suffering, depression, supernatural, openess, fantasy, modern, technology and other keywords.

Unforetunately, it is also a culture that is totally blind to the fact that have isolated themselves, become kin to awful things and will eventually end up like rockers who primarily work in the sex industry, because there is no community bond.

Thank you.

I'm pretty sure the subculture isn't blind to the isolation. You just have to mention the word "goth" in most places to see that.

I'm also pretty sure that anyone who thinks that "supernatural, depression, fantasy, technology" and "suffering" are goth probably wants to go back and read the wiki article so often linked in the intro threads of those completely unfamiliar with the subculture.

[Beneath the Shadows]

Originally Posted by Catch

Artistry, suffering, depression, supernatural, openess, fantasy, modern, technology and other keywords.

Unforetunately, it is also a culture that is totally blind to the fact that have isolated themselves, become kin to awful things and will eventually end up like rockers who primarily work in the sex industry, because there is no community bond.

You would be funny if you weren't so pathetic.

[Solumina]

Do people seriously not get that Catch is a troll?

[Tam Li Hua]

I'm not sure if she's exactly a troll. A troll purposely posts inane crap in order to get people riled up. Catch posts things that sound serious, but don't make any sense; a. k. a., I don't think she's inane and odd on purpose. I hope this isn't mean, but I honestly think that Catch has some serious emotional and mental problems.

[Solumina]

She was banned from gnet (mainly for being a crazy bitch) and came back as Catch to troll. I recall her even admitting to being a troll she since "reformed" and changed into the strange, attention whoring thing that we know today.

[Tam Li Hua]

Solumina: Ahh. I wasn't aware of that. If I may ask, who was she before?

[Pyre]

Catch doesn't rile us up, however. We just kick her around like nobody's business.