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05-22-2006, 05:18 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
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Do schools forbid Satanism? We have a Satanist book in our library. It's not a bible, but a book on the history and the basics of the religion.
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05-22-2006, 11:45 AM
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#402
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 142
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Hmmm...I don't know if schools openly forbid Satanism. I'm sure it's ok in most schools if you do a research project on Satanism or read Satanic books, but I think what schools dislike is "Satanist teens" who make threats against "preppies" or claim to be part of a death cult, or go around purposefully trying to scare people by claiming to be possessed by the devil or something.
I know here in Oregon there was recently a story on the news because a written threat was found in a school classroom, and it said something about a satanic act that would be carried out against the school on 6-6-06. The school admins and parents have been freaking out and the school is allowing parents to keep their kids home that day and it will be an excused absence.
To a lot of teenagers, Satanism is interesting because it is exotic, and symbolizes the opposite of their parents' way of thinking. It is important for adults to distinguish between normal adolescent desire to explore different paths and to symbolically "destroy" their childhood selves and previous identities throgh identification with "satan," and true danger of being part of a group that commits crimes or makes threats against people in the name of Satanism.
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05-22-2006, 12:44 PM
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: Oslo, Norway
Posts: 1,830
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Originally Posted by bunnicula
Hmmm...I don't know if schools openly forbid Satanism. I'm sure it's ok in most schools if you do a research project on Satanism or read Satanic books, but I think what schools dislike is "Satanist teens" who make threats against "preppies" or claim to be part of a death cult, or go around purposefully trying to scare people by claiming to be possessed by the devil or something.
I know here in Oregon there was recently a story on the news because a written threat was found in a school classroom, and it said something about a satanic act that would be carried out against the school on 6-6-06. The school admins and parents have been freaking out and the school is allowing parents to keep their kids home that day and it will be an excused absence.
To a lot of teenagers, Satanism is interesting because it is exotic, and symbolizes the opposite of their parents' way of thinking. It is important for adults to distinguish between normal adolescent desire to explore different paths and to symbolically "destroy" their childhood selves and previous identities throgh identification with "satan," and true danger of being part of a group that commits crimes or makes threats against people in the name of Satanism.
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As a true Satanist, I must say I despise those wool- headed sheep.... It ruddy isn't about that at all!! Satan doesn't exist, and it's all about truly being yourself and truly revelling in what and whom you are... *rolls eyes* Satanic panic my a**.
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05-22-2006, 01:32 PM
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#404
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 3,421
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Stop rolling your eyes
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05-24-2006, 12:55 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 123
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Everything- our school has uniforms; everything that's not part of the uniform and is found on your person, especially during school hours, is immediately confiscated...... It's totally fucked.......
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05-24-2006, 01:01 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: couch-surfer
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Originally Posted by ~Angel_Of_Darkness~
Everything- our school has uniforms; everything that's not part of the uniform and is found on your person, especially during school hours, is immediately confiscated
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You should go around crying, and when a teacher or some other authority asks what the problem is, whimper "...un-underwear isn't part of the official uniform!" Then sob and clutch them. Then when other people start to take note, cry even louder, and when someone else asks what the problem is, say "I told him (or her, whatever) that I didn't have any underwear on, and (s)he grabbed me!"
Hoo-rah!
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05-25-2006, 12:23 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Finland
Posts: 228
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Originally Posted by Sobeh
You should go around crying, and when a teacher or some other authority asks what the problem is, whimper "...un-underwear isn't part of the official uniform!" Then sob and clutch them. Then when other people start to take note, cry even louder, and when someone else asks what the problem is, say "I told him (or her, whatever) that I didn't have any underwear on, and (s)he grabbed me!"
Hoo-rah!
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Ha ha ha! Great, Sobeh, great!
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05-25-2006, 01:02 AM
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Join Date: May 2006
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Bordering on malicious fraud charges there my friend. The problem is, most kids link violence etc etc with Satanism, I know a few satanists that are quite peaceful. Violence and rebellion is the in thing these days. And Satanism is well the top of the list of rebellion.
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05-25-2006, 01:42 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Sanctropolis, Bitchland USA
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So, one must become a "Satanist" to be one's self? BUT the icon Satan has little to no envolvement.. so why exactly identify with satanist vs. just being one's self?? I can't say I understand this one...
Seriously, no disrespect to the hard core followers (even that sounds dumb based on the following question) but what is with the "anti-conformist collective"?? It's terribly (and rather comically) redundant...
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05-25-2006, 11:50 AM
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: Parkersburg, WV
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From what I understand, in LaVeyan Satanism Satan is merely a symbol of indulgence and frivolity, as opposed to one of being constrained by mainstream religious ideology. They call themselves Satanists to show an opposite attitude of hardcore Christians who feel that they must follow the rules and doctrines of Christianity.
It's true that that sounds like just being yourself, but Satanism as a religion does have rules and doctrines, as hypocritical as that sounds, but you just have to read up on it for yourself.
www.satanism101.com
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05-25-2006, 01:30 PM
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#411
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: London
Posts: 155
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Originally Posted by bunnicula
To a lot of teenagers, Satanism is interesting because it is exotic, and symbolizes the opposite of their parents' way of thinking. It is important for adults to distinguish between normal adolescent desire to explore different paths and to symbolically "destroy" their childhood selves and previous identities throgh identification with "satan," and true danger of being part of a group that commits crimes or makes threats against people in the name of Satanism.
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Hmm....what the... oh needle brain.
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05-25-2006, 01:31 PM
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#412
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: London
Posts: 155
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Originally Posted by NachtSorcier
From what I understand, in LaVeyan Satanism Satan is merely a symbol of indulgence and frivolity, as opposed to one of being constrained by mainstream religious ideology. They call themselves Satanists to show an opposite attitude of hardcore Christians who feel that they must follow the rules and doctrines of Christianity.
It's true that that sounds like just being yourself, but Satanism as a religion does have rules and doctrines, as hypocritical as that sounds, but you just have to read up on it for yourself.
www.satanism101.com
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I thought he called it Satanism because it was based on a metaphor of Satan....
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"Like that old tale, the girl who wanted to become the best dancer in the world. "Yes," said the sorceress, "but each time you set your foot on earth will be like knives slashing." "If you can stand the pain, you will be granted your desire."
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05-25-2006, 01:46 PM
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#413
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: couch-surfer
Posts: 598
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Originally Posted by Sanctus Dei
So, one must become a "Satanist" to be one's self? BUT the icon Satan has little to no envolvement.. so why exactly identify with satanist vs. just being one's self?? I can't say I understand this one...
Seriously, no disrespect to the hard core followers (even that sounds dumb based on the following question) but what is with the "anti-conformist collective"?? It's terribly (and rather comically) redundant...
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Oxymoronic, I think you mean. And it has to do with bucking trends and finding others who did the same, and then saying you're superior because of it. It's just more of the same "My god is better than your god" that's been going on forever, and will continue to occur.
Unless one really doesn't care about the opinion others hold of one. But then, one wouldn't be so defensive about clearly labelling oneself, would one? >
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The phrase "we (I) (you) simply must---" designates something that need not be done. "That goes without saying" is a red warning. "Of course" means you had best check it yourself. These small-change cliches and others like them, when read correctly, are reliable channel markers.
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05-25-2006, 06:24 PM
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: Parkersburg, WV
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Originally Posted by Virulent Dryad
I thought he called it Satanism because it was based on a metaphor of Satan....
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Wouldn't a metaphor of Satan entail an attitude opposite that of Christians?
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05-25-2006, 08:44 PM
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 2,126
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Originally Posted by NachtSorcier
Wouldn't a metaphor of Satan entail an attitude opposite that of Christians?
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yes, most probably. I always thought a satanist was someone who indulged in the seven deadly sins.
Our school had a uniform up til sixth and 7th form (the last two years of highschool) and the uniforms seemed rather pointless, especially in winter, because they were useless at keeping you warm. In 7th form one of my mates managed to get this really grotesque Cannibal Corpse shirt and no one seemed to notice or give a toss about it either, so i can't see why we had to wear those stupid grey and white uniforms if it was supposed to make us all warm and fuzzy towards each other.
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05-25-2006, 11:05 PM
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Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 33
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Schools don't care about cannibal corpses shirts. Unless they are advocating murder, sex, drugs, incest, molestation or any other thing. I use to wear them all the time. Though its sad they alow that bands shirt but one day i wear a marilyn manson shirt and they made me turn it inside out.
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05-26-2006, 03:13 PM
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: london
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in my school,you can be whatever you want to be , you can be as chavy as you want or goth as you want . the only rule that i think my school has is a rule against nail polish . what kind of crap is that compared to everything else. extreme foolishness, but on the other hand , mt school is packed with fools!!
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05-26-2006, 05:21 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: El Paso, Texas/ Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua
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Fools that can't spell, I presume?
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Originally Posted by George Carlin
People who say they don’t care what people think are usually desperate to have people think they don’t care what people think.
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05-26-2006, 08:58 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Cali
Posts: 8,030
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hehehehehehehe
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05-27-2006, 07:22 AM
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#420
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Finland
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Don't be so mean, Jillian
As I recall me once telling here, my school doesn't give a shit how the people dress, but I'm changing school after summer so let's see how it'll be there.
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05-27-2006, 09:48 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Tennessee
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My school is so so. We can have nail polish and such. But no chain (though that rule is lightly enforced) and no spikes. Other than that we can do as we wish.
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05-27-2006, 11:54 AM
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: london
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im not a fool, that was a spelling mistake i made. i couldnt exactly go back and changed it.
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05-27-2006, 12:09 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Wonderland/BarbieWorld
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Originally Posted by nell05
im not a fool, that was a spelling mistake i made. i couldnt exactly go back and changed it.
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"and changed it"?!?! Thankyou for proving to us that indeed you're not a fool! hehe. So funny!
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05-27-2006, 12:13 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: El Paso, Texas/ Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua
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Nell, it wasn't a single isolated mispell. Even in this apology, you mispelled.
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I cleave to no system. I am a true seeker."
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Originally Posted by George Carlin
People who say they don’t care what people think are usually desperate to have people think they don’t care what people think.
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05-27-2006, 12:18 PM
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#425
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: london
Posts: 9
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oh god!, you guys can be so degrading sometimes
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