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02-20-2007, 07:06 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: The Icy Forest of New England
Posts: 2,535
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Originally Posted by HumanePain
OK, I normally wouldn't advise this, but I love ya Crimson, so I am going to give away a grown up dad-type secret.I have a daughter too, so I know this works. Don't tell him I told you this or he'll kill me:
The fact that he is overprotective means you're his "little girl". This means that under his skin, you have him wrapped around your little finger.
What you do is this:
Tell him exactly what you just told us, that you want to have friends, but now he is making it harder for you to have friends. As you start explaining this, get a tear in your eyes, and make your voice a little choked up, like you are about to bawl your brains out, then end with "I'll never get to have any friends!" and start full on crying ! I'll give it a 75% chance it will work!
Good luck Crimson. I hope it works, and I don't blame you if you don't want to try it, it is a pretty sneaky trick to use on a loving dad.
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I love ya Humane. Thanks. I hope this works.  You're the best.
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"Tigers love pepper, they hate cinnamon."
-Zach Galifianakis
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02-20-2007, 07:28 PM
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#3702
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 1,021
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My parent were also over protective. But I still can't figure out how I got away with so much???
Also to rant, Gas is 2.51 a gallon here!!!! I put 4o bucks into my car and only got 3/4 of a tank!!!! Argh!!!!!! I can't wait till I get out of this job and save up to buy a decent small car so I cna keep my classic as a weekend and special day cruiser......lol
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02-20-2007, 07:32 PM
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#3703
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 1,021
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*s crappy darn laptop trying to type...damn.!!!! argh!!!lol
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02-20-2007, 07:49 PM
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#3704
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Northwestern Washington
Posts: 921
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My county has the highest gas prices in the country.
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It is time, it is high time... Yes, but to do what?
--Friedrich Nietzsche
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02-20-2007, 08:52 PM
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#3705
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: With the Zombies
Posts: 2,208
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Our petrol prices go up every 2 weeks now...
and bread went up by like 2 bucks...
We're turning into Zimbabwe.
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It's not so much the pain
It's more the actual knife
Pretending the picture is perfect
I cut myself to sleep
I close my eyes for a second
And curse my fragile soul
I scream to hide that I'm lonely
The echo calls my name
*ANIMAL CRACKERS*
http://www.myspace.com/persephone_x
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02-21-2007, 01:03 PM
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#3706
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Aboard the Babel-13
Posts: 146
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This isn't really a rant, but oh well...
A week ago during the February half term I stayed for a week in France, with a penpal. It was ok, but by the end of the week I think we were getting a bit bored of each other...
Anyway, just now I've recieved an email saying that she'd like to come to England during the Easter holidays, which is fine, but seriously there is NOTHING to do here. Everything is at least a 30 minute drive away which would involve sitting in the car for ages and being bored...arrrrgh... Why must I live in the middle of nowhere?
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02-21-2007, 01:17 PM
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#3707
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Cruddy little town in the heart of midwestern farm country
Posts: 21
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Salmiakki don't feel bad about living in the middle of no where, we also have to drive 30 minutes to get anywhere slightly interesting and if we want to have fun it's an hour drive. So the running joke is that 'round here we haven't got anything better to do than to dye our hair, get high, or play on the train tracks, and it is basically true. The midwest blows.
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02-21-2007, 01:31 PM
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#3708
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Aboard the Babel-13
Posts: 146
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There aren't even any train tracks here...
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02-21-2007, 01:40 PM
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#3709
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Cruddy little town in the heart of midwestern farm country
Posts: 21
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Well then, we shall have to airlift some train tracks to you, so that you can play on them to your heart's content. I'll even include a locomotive to run every so often and squash as many coins as you like. Otherwise...you are in dire need of video games.
In other news, I am so pissed off right now that I'm not sure where to start in the ranting.
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02-21-2007, 04:53 PM
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#3710
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Yew City
Posts: 2,413
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What is goth? What isn't goth? Label, label, label, define, define, define.
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I am The Mighty Cooch!!!!!!
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02-21-2007, 05:11 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 3,360
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Aww Molly *pats you on the back*. It bugged me too once upon a time but now I could'nt care less. *heaves a sigh of relief*
I could have sworn I posted to a thread in this section and the whole thread got deleted. What was that all about?
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02-21-2007, 05:16 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 1,021
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Technically gothic is an art form founded by germans to compete with english architecture, then stolen by the english and claimed as there own. Kind of like all the new australian actresses claimed by the US..lol
As far as present culture, I'm not going to open that bag of cats...lol
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02-21-2007, 05:52 PM
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#3713
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 3,360
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I think you missed her point. She's pissed off because all G.net seems to do is label and define the goth culture when that effort could be better spent elsewhere. It used to piss me off too. Used to.
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02-21-2007, 08:33 PM
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#3714
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: With the Zombies
Posts: 2,208
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Originally Posted by ArtificialOne
Technically gothic is an art form founded by germans to compete with english architecture, then stolen by the english and claimed as there own. Kind of like all the new australian actresses claimed by the US..lol
As far as present culture, I'm not going to open that bag of cats...lol
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That comparison made me giggle...but its so true!
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It's not so much the pain
It's more the actual knife
Pretending the picture is perfect
I cut myself to sleep
I close my eyes for a second
And curse my fragile soul
I scream to hide that I'm lonely
The echo calls my name
*ANIMAL CRACKERS*
http://www.myspace.com/persephone_x
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02-22-2007, 04:04 AM
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#3715
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 205
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OoOoOoOo!!
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Originally Posted by MollyMac
What is goth? What isn't goth? Label, label, label, define, define, define.
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I dunno, man....
Ask my yuppie neighbors and my husband's redneck friends!
THEY are the ones calling me "goth lady"!
Sheesh.
I gotta go to work.
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02-22-2007, 07:43 PM
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#3716
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 1,021
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I hate to rain on peoples parades... well ok maybe not. But labels are importain in culture and society to set boundries dna such so people can interact. Sometimes bad and sometimes good but always nessesary.
Now culture is always evolving an thus the need to set boundaries to keep the cohesian of a particular gourp together. With the boundaries and other technical stuff the lines would blur and dissappear. The noone would feel a part of a group or such.
Ok if that was confusing lets put it this way. Labeling and defining aren't always bad. It is bad to keep a group so closed and angry that you drive away new member... then you'll end up like the Shakers...Extinct...
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02-22-2007, 07:45 PM
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#3717
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 1,021
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OYG!! My spelling!!! I'm going to runnoff and cry in my room now.
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02-23-2007, 01:56 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Minnesota.
Posts: 57
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I am procrastinating. It is 4:00am, and my poetry project was due four days ago. I feel bad because every day a letter grade goes down, and I want an A or a B, but I'll probably get a D, now.
I'm so behind in everything, because I missed two days.
My german teacher lost a little book I made, and I am sad because it was a story about me and my best friend, and I showed him the book and he loved it because I made really cute little pictures in it. It has sentimental value and she lost it.
I am in detention tomorrow because I come to school late everyday, and miss my homeroom. The lady at the counter desk called me a lier because I went home sick yesterday and told the nurse I had an open period when I really had a study. I assumed it wouldn't be a problem to go there without a pass, seeing that my study teacher is always gone. The Nurse called me a lier too. I am a very honest person, and I am never rude to any adult at my school, but the lady at the counter is always making remarks and faces, and treating me like I am a horrible person. I am not.
The guidence councelor man is not ignorant in the way the Nurse and Lady are, but he still isn't as smart as one would hope for. He's all about leverage. When I got my Nurse problems all cleared up with him, he told me to go to the Nurse and explain to her the real situation, to "Get on her up side". I said, "Leverage". He uses it with all the students that come into his room. He used it with me.
I'm alright, though. Detention isn't that bad at all, because I am this little conditioned pawn that will just do whatever and never speak out in class.
I want to leave school to be homeschooled.
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02-23-2007, 03:01 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: the concrete and steel beehive of Southern California
Posts: 7,449
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Originally Posted by Momerath
I want to leave school to be home schooled.
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Sorry you are having a bad time Momerath. I know withdrawing from school sounds like a good thing right now, but what you are going through is practice for the real world.
I sympathize with you, but try to hang in there. In independent life later on you will find that there are still people with sour attitudes who are in positions of power, and there will still be communication problems that result in making life difficult.
If you learn to be strong inside and carry on at school, it will help you to deal with more of the same when you leave school later on.
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02-23-2007, 03:20 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 3,360
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You think school is tough? Wait till you get a job. I wouldn't suggest quitting school. It prepares and conditions you for all the bullshit that will be thrown your way when you start working. Not an adequate preparation, but something is better than nothing.
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02-23-2007, 07:52 AM
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#3721
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Minnesota.
Posts: 57
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Maybe. I know about the sour attitudes and positions of power in the real world, maybe not face to face or hands on, but I know. I feel like I am in the real world now, though, I am alive and this is my life. The only reason why I should carry on with school is because it is what is expected of me. BUT I really never learn anything in school, especially not anything about the real world. I feel like my school teaches ignorance and insecurity more than actual free will and intellegence.
My best friend, he is 23 years old, he was homeschooled all through high school, and he seems to be way more open about life and he actually questions thing.
All I ever do in school is memorize information and repeat it back. We rarely do any application, and I'd rather they teach how to apply what you learn rather if you can rattle it off or not.
I do really well in school, and I am in all advanced classes. But I really feeled pushed down, and since I am not in the "real world" yet, and I do not understand all the adult responsibilities that I do not have, I would rather NOT be put in a structured, forced, useless education, when I can actually be out in the real world before I have the responisibilities actually LEARNING what I want to learn, and what I feel is important.
They should teach more about life in general. And psychology, and social habbits, and self esteem... and love, and thinking for yourself, and how questioning everything is the only way you'll learn anything about real life.
I KNOW I will always continue questioning everything, and I will never stop learning everything I can. I'd actually rather get a job than go to school. AND Besides that, I never said I was going to drop school, I said I would be homeschooled, and I think there are homeschooling programs where I can actually graduate high school so I can go to college if I wanted to. I really don't know too much about it, though, and I didn't research it or anything yet.
But, I'm not going to drop out of school. I'm too much of a good student to, and my mom won't want me to.
I was only ranting about how I do not appreciate being called a lier by people.
The homeschooling is actually about how much I learn in school, nothing to do with the people. Actually, I rarely have problems with people at school, and the social atmosphere is normal except for all the insecurity and judgement that is just normality where I live. I know that If I just stay truthful to myself and others, and I continue being myself and confident, I know nothing should actually get to me. I am in high school, you know, and I still need some serious practice at letting things go.
I only want to be homeschooled because I feel I would learn better outside of school. I've already observed how hard the real world is, but I really do not care. I want personal growth, not personal suppression.
And to Mir, I don't think school is tough at all. It's so easy. Everything. Even the people there are fine. So, That's not why I want to be HOMESCHOOLED. And I didn't say I was going to quit school.
School is not the real world in any way.
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02-23-2007, 10:29 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: In desert part of Oregon, Central
Posts: 1,147
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Homeschool is very educational, esp they way I did it. My mom worked during the day, allowing me to teach myself whatever I fancied just as long as I passed the required state tests.
And how come schools don't teach astrology? Even if you ask a teacher about it, they won't give you a straight answer because it might interfer (sp) with the religious thing.
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These are not books, lumps of lifeless paper, but minds alive on the shelves.
~Gilbert Highet
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02-23-2007, 11:17 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 3,421
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Not to be rude, but if you're such the perfect student, why can't you even spell 'liar'?
In Europe, at 13, you choose your profession. You then study it until you're ready to take it as your job.
...Meh. At least you like 'the Jabberwocky'.
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02-23-2007, 03:53 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Minnesota.
Posts: 57
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Was the first question... actually suppose to be answered? lol
I wonder how European schools differ from American schools. What do you think about choosing your job at 13?
It doesn't sound too super to me, because I change my mind so much and I try to think of the moment.
What Shyantra said seems to be what I am idealy seeing Homeschooling as. It was the same with my best friend and some others that I have talked to.
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02-23-2007, 04:04 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: the concrete and steel beehive of Southern California
Posts: 7,449
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Despite you misspelling "liar" I like the way you think Momerath, and the way you explained and clarified that it wasn't school that you had a problem with, but the people/liars (which is what I meant by "communication problems", I tend to gloss over bad things).
But I still think it is good that you are exposed to liars, as there are plenty of them in the real world. Hanging in there at school will make it easier for you to identify them and learn how to deal with them. Cocooning yourself safe at home is a form of running away from problems, and it is better if problems are faced head on, and addressed.
But also remember this: I tend to pontificate too much! 
Gobble gobble gobble it's too much darling, too much!
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