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Politics "Under democracy, one party always devotes its chief energies to trying to prove that the other party is unfit to rule -and both commonly succeed, and are right." -H.L. Menken

View Poll Results: Do you agree with this view of America today?
Yes, and I live in America 2 9.52%
No, and I live in America 3 14.29%
Yes, and I live outside America 7 33.33%
No, and I live outside America 9 42.86%
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Old 07-04-2006, 02:48 AM   #1
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Britons tire of cruel, vulgar US: poll

LONDON (AFP) - People in Britain view the United States as a vulgar, crime-ridden society obsessed with money and led by an incompetent president whose Iraq policy is failing, according to a newspaper poll.

The United States is no longer a symbol of hope to Britain and the British no longer have confidence in their transatlantic cousins to lead global affairs, according to the poll published in The Daily Telegraph.

The YouGov poll found that 77 percent of respondents disagreed with the statement that the US is "a beacon of hope for the world".

As Americans prepared to celebrate the 230th anniversary of their independence on Tuesday, the poll found that only 12 percent of Britons trust them to act wisely on the global stage. This is half the number who had faith in the Vietnam-scarred White House of 1975.

A massive 83 percent of those questioned said that the United States doesn't care what the rest of the world thinks.

With much of the worst criticism aimed at the US adminstration, the poll showed that 70 percent of Britons like Americans a lot or a little.

US President George W. Bush fared significantly worse, with just one percent rating him a "great leader" against 77 percent who deemed him a "pretty poor" or "terrible" leader.

More than two-thirds who offered an opinion said America is essentially an imperial power seeking world domination. And 81 per cent of those who took a view said President George W Bush hypocritically championed democracy as a cover for the pursuit of American self-interests.

US policy in Iraq was similarly derided, with only 24 percent saying they felt that the US military action there was helping to bring democracy to the country.

A spokesman for the American embassy said that the poll's findings were contradicted by its own surveys.

"We question the judgment of anyone who asserts the world would be a better place with Saddam still terrorizing his own nation and threatening people well beyond Iraq's borders," the paper quoted the unnamed spokesman as saying.

"With respect to the poll's assertions about American society, we bear some of the blame for not successfully communicating America's extraordinary dynamism.

"But frankly, so do you (the British press)."

In answer to other questions, a majority of the Britons questions described Americans as uncaring, divided by class, awash in violent crime, vulgar, preoccupied with money, ignorant of the outside world, racially divided, uncultured and in the most overwhelming result (90 percent of respondents) dominated by big business.

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Old 07-04-2006, 05:52 AM   #2
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Which view am I agreeing to? Beacon of hope or Vulgar crime-ridden cesspit?
I agree with the Cesspit and I live in Australia.
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Old 08-03-2006, 09:42 AM   #3
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I don't like America, nor what it is coming to. And I live here. I mean I like our freedoms and such. But America is coming to some sort of tradegy. I think we're falling apart.
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Old 08-05-2006, 10:29 AM   #4
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It's very hard for me to say no but even though i chose yes i do agree and outside america,

Even though America is obsessed with their money and in debt for always to japan, America is one of the leading business countries but i also say their is no and never will eb a true culture over in america, its a shame to see such a countrie like america fall....

America now days has resriction on every thing, You have to pay for your own health, you can't have sex until 21 i've heard and even worst you can't leave school until you're 18......

at least in the united kingdom we shall always have out freedom no matter which priminister / king / queen we have......

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Old 08-15-2006, 10:37 AM   #5
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you can't have sex until 21 I’ve heard and even worst you can't leave school until you're 18......
actually as far as I know you can leave school as soon as you have all of the credits that you need to graduate (my friend graduated at 15 so I know that it can happen you just have to work your ass off) and you can drop out of high school, which you start at about 14, if you want as long as you have the permission of your guardian (you just have to go through a bit of a process in order to legally do so)

As for sex we can have it whenever we want as long as that person has the same legal standing as we do. At 18 we are legally considered adults and are able to have sex with anyone over 18 (legally considered minors and not able to give consent). In some states the is a three year window (like a 20 year old can have sex with a 17 year old) and in other states the age is lower. The restrictive laws about sex are the ones that really aren't enforced (in Virginia, my home state, you can only legally have sex in the missionary position but that doesn't really stop anyone kind of like you can't eat cherry pie with vanilla ice cream on Sundays)
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Old 08-15-2006, 10:40 AM   #6
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oh by the way I was in no way saying that America is perfect, cuz it isn't (not by a long shot) but was just trying to clarify the issues that you mentioned.
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Old 08-15-2006, 01:48 PM   #7
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Damnit, I hit the wrong answer... I do not like the way America is governed, or the way it seems to want to play "World police", which is the task of the UN or NATO, not a specific country. Let me just add that most americans I've met and spoken to were terrific people, great friends and a few crushes of mine. I live outside the US.
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Old 08-16-2006, 02:36 PM   #8
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actually as far as I know you can leave school as soon as you have all of the credits that you need to graduate (my friend graduated at 15 so I know that it can happen you just have to work your ass off) and you can drop out of high school, which you start at about 14, if you want as long as you have the permission of your guardian (you just have to go through a bit of a process in order to legally do so)

As for sex we can have it whenever we want as long as that person has the same legal standing as we do. At 18 we are legally considered adults and are able to have sex with anyone over 18 (legally considered minors and not able to give consent). In some states the is a three year window (like a 20 year old can have sex with a 17 year old) and in other states the age is lower. The restrictive laws about sex are the ones that really aren't enforced (in Virginia, my home state, you can only legally have sex in the missionary position but that doesn't really stop anyone kind of like you can't eat cherry pie with vanilla ice cream on Sundays)

In some states the legal age of consent for sex can range from 14-18. As for school you can leave as long as you have all required credits for school. Or if you want to drop out you must 16. But it ranges from state to state. There's no set law for all of America.
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