Thoughts on gay marriage?

[Solumina]

I think it’s unfair to say that Christians are “spooky,” its really just a bunch of zealots who are giving Christians as a whole a bad name. Personally I’m not Christian but I have many friends that are, its just evangelicals that seem to want to legislate morality. Sadly about forty something percent of the U.S. describe themselves as being evangelical/born-again Christians, which really worries me.

[spoonjigglesatan]

christians i know are not generally followers of christ. they are more like paulians or peterians. i find that many of them prefer to quote from scriptures that are either pre- or post-jesus, as you can see on the website that FenrisQueen mentioned earlier. i've found more "christ-like" attitudes to be present in buddist or hindu communities abroad than here in the usa. do christians even like jesus? and back to the topic, i think jesus would not be concerned with gay marriage or gay adoption, but i don't know, i'm not jesus, and neither is anyone else.

[Loy]

Christians that don't follow Christ? Wow...this has got to be one of the most retarded things ever uttered since.....no, I can't think of anything as retarded.

As for quoting scriptures pre and post Christ? Well, that's the entire fucking bible, dude.

Just because a bunch of hateful fucktards like to use the term "christian" as a security blanket doesn't mean that their actions are based on christianity. That's just like saying all muslims are fanatical anti-american flat-earthers....as much as you'd like to believe it, facts tend to prove you wrong. And when facts prove you wrong, the best course of action is to rethink your position.

Sorry there, Limbaugh Jr, but your hate-mongering and loose understanding of concepts make you look like more of an idiot than you probably are...of course, I am willing to be wrong in this case.

As far as the "fags marrying' thing is concerned....can we either merge this with the already existing gay marriage thread, or at least re-name this thread "beating another dead horse"?

[edible_eye]

how about we just beat a dead horse? i LOVE it when the flesh splits wide open and blood and offal spurts everywhere.

that's hot.

[FenrisQueen]

Ugh!!! You pervert!!



Well, I like it too, but that is not the point e_e! There are minors!!!!


Ahh fuck . Just ignore what I just said. YOu know I don't really mean it...

[WolfMoon]

i've found more "christ-like" attitudes to be present in buddist or hindu communities abroad than here in the usa.

This generalization is truer in some areas than others.Sadly, I live in the Buy-bull belt, both mine and my husband's family think I'm going to hell when I die because I'm not christian.

:P

Personally, I'd rather be in hell if heaven is going to be as lame as it was always described to me.I'd rather not feel obligated to forever kiss the ass of some awesome being.And don't get me started on the 'no sex' thing!

I'm glad that I'm not the only person that finds most christians 'spooky'.

[FenrisQueen]

::hi-fives wolfie::

Yay! WOlfie, lets see what happens! We can either go to hell together, or reach the summerland and reincarnate!

[Disfunction]

It could possibly be that what was meant by that statement was that buddhist and hindus are more christian in their nature than those that claim to be Christians and discriminate left and right, up and down.... they do the hokey pokey and... *cough* uhh... nevermind.

[FenrisQueen]

no, no...continue...










::crickets chirp::

[WolfMoon]

Originally Posted by FenrisQueen

::hi-fives wolfie::

Yay! WOlfie, lets see what happens! We can either go to hell together, or reach the summerland and reincarnate!

I'm hoping for reincarnation.But then I always wonder why?If the afterlife is supposed to be better than what we have on earth why wouold I want to experience things here again?Perhaps because what we actually are given isn't so bad that we'd turn our backs on it forever?

Fuck it!I'm turning into a vampire!


:roll:

[FenrisQueen]

Maybe you just couldnt stand heaven? Vampires....*sigh*

[2hammeron3]

I dont know exactly where i stand on the actual issue but im sick and tired of hearing about how sodomy is sin and homosexuals burn in hell. The whole argument (in my opinion) of the agaist side is religion. Christianity isnt the only religion, and just because the greater part of america is doesnt mean the rest of us are. Id be more sympathetic if it wernt churches doing most of talking. So i guess im saying do what you want, and fight for your rights. Did i mention im a moron?

[FenrisQueen]

no, your not a moron. You prove a good point

[Granny-like_the_apple]

Originally Posted by 2hammeron3

I dont know exactly where i stand on the actual issue but im sick and tired of hearing about how sodomy is sin and homosexuals burn in hell.

Aren't we all...

Christianity isnt the only religion, and just because the greater part of america is doesnt mean the rest of us are.

Most religions have the same attitude to homosexuality as Christianity does, so it's more accurate to say that just because most Americans are religious, doesn't mean we all are.

The whole argument (in my opinion) of the agaist side is religion [...] Id be more sympathetic if it wernt churches doing most of talking.

Eh... I wouldn't. I'm not trying to say your opinion is bad, just that it's not the religious aspect that bothers me-it's that I simply don't see any reason for it. I have not heard one single rational, provable defense of why homosexuality is a sin-things like murder and pedophilia are immoral and sins, and we know why. There are practical reasons aside from solely religious beliefs. Homosexuality doesn't hurt anyone, it doesn't infringe on anyone else's rights, so even if atheists were leading the charge against homosexuality, I'd still be pissed at them. Obviously this wouldn't happen, but just saying that for me, the problem isn't religion, it's the prejudice itself.

Did i mention im a moron?

No, but we figured that out on our own. [Joke!]

[spoonjigglesatan]

Originally Posted by AlKilyu

No pepito, I threw it out along with your SHIFT key.

http://www-scf.usc.edu/~thier/ee/
- this site exhibits some of e.e. cummings' poetry. you might be enlightened rather than prescriptive.

[AlKilyu]

Originally Posted by spoonjigglesatan

http://www-scf.usc.edu/~thier/ee/
- this site exhibits some of e.e. cummings' poetry. you might be enlightened rather than prescriptive.

WTF?

What the fuck are you talking about pepito?

Like your life partner bexxle, I don't understand a fuckin' word you say.

[spoonjigglesatan]

Originally Posted by AlKilyu

WTF?

What the fuck are you talking about pepito?

Like your life partner bexxle, I don't understand a fuckin' word you say.

1. e.e. cummings also refuses to follow the grammatical conventions of capitalization.

2. people who believe that it is "ungrammatical" or "wrong" to type without capitalization are labeled "prescriptive grammarians" because they believe that there exists a right and wrong in language. the opposite is a "descriptive grammarian".

check out cummings despite what you think of me.

[edible_eye]

Originally Posted by AlKilyu

WTF?

What the fuck are you talking about pepito?

Like your life partner bexxle, I don't understand a fuckin' word you say.

i laughed so hard when i read this, al. mainly because i also got angry trying to decipher the cryptic blah-blah-blah pepito/jiggle laid down.

whatever your rationale, jiggle - no one can get inside your head to figure out the INTENT of your words. explain yourself, boy.

[FenrisQueen]

Good lord, Edible, it's obviously not very difficult to decipher his wording. You just have to take a couple of drugs. Bexxle was unintelligible even with the aid of medication, whereas Spoon is merely speaking stoner.






*note:although many people in this forum are probably heavily medicated and/or using excessive drugs, I am in no way encouraging drug use of any kind.

[TeapotScar]

Originally Posted by spoonjigglesatan

1. e.e. cummings also refuses to follow the grammatical conventions of capitalization.

2. people who believe that it is "ungrammatical" or "wrong" to type without capitalization are labeled "prescriptive grammarians" because they believe that there exists a right and wrong in language. the opposite is a "descriptive grammarian".

check out cummings despite what you think of me.

You may find this ironic, but I ama *huge* fan of cummings' work. His was one of the first poetry books I ever owned, one of the first poems I ever memorized was one of his. However, there is a time and a place for the artistic license that cummings takes in his poetry. When you're *not writing poetry*, for instance. Especially when *you're not e.e. cummings*, and comparing yourself to one of the greatest poets of modern times... makes you seem like kind of a dick. You don't want to seem like a dick, now, do you?

[FenrisQueen]

well, look at it this way, teapot. Maybe he gets off on being a dick. Maybe he-yeah. Let's just leave it at the first sentence, shall we?

[AlKilyu]

Originally Posted by TeapotScar

You may find this ironic,

Someone rang?

[spoonjigglesatan]

i have been thinking for a while now about gay marriage in particular (excluding for the moment "gay couples adoption rights") and have been trying to view the issue from both sides. i just can't. personally, i have no problem with anyone wanting to marry anyone else, as i've stated before, but the thing is i simply can't wrap my brain around any reasonable opposition. to me, it boils down to consent between two people and doesn't have much to do with anyone else at all. what is the argument against gay marriage anyway? i've heard that it threatens the "sanctity" of marriage, but honestly, what's being sanctified in a marriage anyhow?

[DeathDreamer]

church and state are supposed to be seperate. part of the reason they cant get married is because christians useually dont think its right. if the church and state/country were seperate gays would prbably be able to get married, also getting married in other religions would be official, like i dont think that hand fasting is considered official by the government.
I hope i didnt get any facts wrong (this is just what i think i know?) any ways yes they should be able to marry

[Binkie]

Remember that marriage started off, and is still mostly reguarded, as a religious institution. But anywho, if you don't like the U.S. stance on gay marriage, you can go to the UK or France where... oh wait, that's right. They don't have it there either.