I have been urged...

[Glothic]

...To make an introduction.

Hello, my name is Glothic.

How do you do?

[Ryga]

Good evening, you might want to fill out these questions:

1. What do you do? (Hobbies, job)

2. Where are you from?

3. Who is your favorite author?

4. What are your favorite films?

5. What music do you want played at your wedding?

6. At your funeral?

7. This IS a gothic website, so... how do you want to die?

8. What kind of casket would you want?

9. What's your FAVORITE outfit?

10. What's one thing you miss about being a little kid?

11. What's your favorite band?

12. What kind of education do you have? What is/was/will be your major?

13. Why did you join?

14. If the first 13 questions didn't give it away. What is your gender?

[Glothic]

NO, I might NOT want to fill out that questionaire.

I will tell you this, I am not goth now, but I was in the 80s, when the movement was born.

I guess goth has changed a lot... I mean "what's your favorite OUTFIT?"

Seriously? Are you seriously asking me that?

Well, we certainly didn't have any such thing as Hot Topic in 1984, but no self respecting goth (hell, most of us called each other Death Rockers back then, anyway) wouldn't be seen in a mall, let alone purchase anything in said establishment.

I got on this board to ask the Gothic.net brain trust about a song I remember from the 80s, figuring some kind souls might have a clue as to what I was looking for. A few tried to help. To them I say thanks, but as far as blah-blahing about what I wan't played at my wedding, well, you all can just go to my MySpace.

Oh, wait, that's right, I don't have one. Because I don't need everybody on the internets to know me or my business.

Bye.

[BlackDahlia]

So you're an old fogey now, eh? (...I kid.)

Welcome.

[Glothic]

Thanks, and yes, I'm old. And cranky.

Is there an age requirement here?

[Lucretia_my_Reflection]

hello and welcome

[Glothic]

Wow. And here I expected to be flamed for refusing to fill out the official Gothic.net Kookie Kutter Kwestionair.

Here I had my FlameAway Suit (tm) on, but instead I am disarmed by welcomes...

I don't know what to say...

[HumanePain]

Originally Posted by Glothic

Wow. And here I expected to be flamed for refusing to fill out the official Gothic.net Kookie Kutter Kwestionair.

Here I had my FlameAway Suit (tm) on, but instead I am disarmed by welcomes...

I don't know what to say...

We don't look to see if your answers are cookie-cutter. We want to get to know you so we can say: "Oh cool, another guy my age!" and then become friends a little easier, finding something in common with you. For example: I am probably older than YOU. I got married and became a father in the 80's. Now I am a grandfather.

[Dancing_in_rain]

Glothic? That's an interesting name...what inspired it?

[mrs.wes straker]

Wow, mister, you are cranky. :-P

[Glothic]

Originally Posted by HumanePain

I am probably older than YOU. I got married and became a father in the 80's. Now I am a grandfather.

Yes. You sir, are most likely older than me — at least now i know who to go to with prostate problems, and other geriatric woes on this board

My objection to the Kwestionaire is two-fold: One, it saddens me that in order to be able to post on this board of alleged malcontents, misanthropes and creative non-conformists, one has to "follow the rules," and post an intro to gain "acceptance" into this community. Sort of incongruous with the whole idea of a subculture, don't you think?

Two, I spent some time reading other intro posts. Seems quite often that people get smoked for not filling it out "correctly" or completely, or even at all. Your flamed if you do, flamed if you don't.

Example: Intros often go something like this:

NewbieGothKid - (answers all question, including the all-important 'favorite bands question') "I luv two wiches, mephisto walz and xmal duetchland. nephilim iz cool 2 !!!11!!!"

flylarvae - Your spelling and grammar suck. X Mal Deutschland sucks. Just because you bought a band tee shirt at the mall, does not make you as goth as me. You are a poseur.

Other posters - Oh flylarvae, you are so funny and mean! How clever!

Other other posters - Hey NewbieGothKid, flylarvae was easy on you, you better clean up your act, if you want friends here...

Originally Posted by Dancing_in_rain

Glothic? That's an interesting name...what inspired it?

I didn't put much thought into the name. One of my hobbies is firearms. I loves me some guns (not in a Trenchcoat Mafia kind of way, in an "enthusiast" kind of way). One of my favorites is that Austrian marvel in blackened steel and polymer - the GLOCK safe action pistol.

Gothic+GLOCK=Glothic

[maggot]

I'm totally Flylarvae.
The only problem here is that I don't even TRY to claim that I'm goth.

And I am funny and mean

[Saddiction]

Originally Posted by Glothic

NO, I might NOT want to fill out that questionaire.

I will tell you this, I am not goth now, but I was in the 80s, when the movement was born.

I guess goth has changed a lot... I mean "what's your favorite OUTFIT?"

Seriously? Are you seriously asking me that?

Well, we certainly didn't have any such thing as Hot Topic in 1984, but no self respecting goth (hell, most of us called each other Death Rockers back then, anyway) wouldn't be seen in a mall, let alone purchase anything in said establishment.

I got on this board to ask the Gothic.net brain trust about a song I remember from the 80s, figuring some kind souls might have a clue as to what I was looking for. A few tried to help. To them I say thanks, but as far as blah-blahing about what I wan't played at my wedding, well, you all can just go to my MySpace.

Oh, wait, that's right, I don't have one. Because I don't need everybody on the internets to know me or my business.

Bye.

That was awesome

[Renatus]

You Forgot The People Who Say Nothing At All Related To Anything In The Thread Damn You! Snow Storm In Spring! Killer Rabbit Slippers! Jumangi Rymes With Milwaukee!

[Vako]

Originally Posted by Glothic

I didn't put much thought into the name. One of my hobbies is firearms. I loves me some guns (not in a Trenchcoat Mafia kind of way, in an "enthusiast" kind of way). One of my favorites is that Austrian marvel in blackened steel and polymer - the GLOCK safe action pistol.

Gothic+GLOCK=Glothic

Fellow firearms enthusiast here (hopefully not the creepy kind).

[PinstripesAndPithHelmets]

Originally Posted by Glothic

NO, I might NOT want to fill out that questionaire.

I will tell you this, I am not goth now, but I was in the 80s, when the movement was born.

I guess goth has changed a lot... I mean "what's your favorite OUTFIT?"

Seriously? Are you seriously asking me that?

Don't play me that shit. 80s goths were just as concerned with appearance as anyone else. The lens of time doesn't blur things THAT much, boyo. You ain't the first malcontent to slap on eyeliner, so why don't you just come down off that midnight black high horse you rode in on.

Originally Posted by Glothic

Well, we certainly didn't have any such thing as Hot Topic in 1984, but no self respecting goth (hell, most of us called each other Death Rockers back then, anyway) wouldn't be seen in a mall, let alone purchase anything in said establishment.

Gee, I suppose because the soles of my boots have touched the floor of a mall that makes me tainted in some way? Don't look now, but I've actually bought pants in a DEPARTMENT STORE! God forbid! You're just as fucking pretentious as the worst of the new generation of goths -excuse me, death rockers - that you seek to denigrate. Fuck you.

Originally Posted by Glothic

To them I say thanks, but as far as blah-blahing about what I wan't played at my wedding, well, you all can just go to my MySpace.

Oh, wait, that's right, I don't have one. Because I don't need everybody on the internets to know me or my business.

Bye.

For someone who supposedly doesn't give a shit about the opinions of the newbies, or anyone else for that matter, you sure did go to an awful lot of trouble posting things about yourself. Perhaps there's some dark, arcane logic behind this that I, in my status as untermensch, just don't get. I highly doubt that, however.

Just because you're old and "liked it first" doesn't mean shit. Get the fuck over yourself.

[Godslayer Jillian]

Originally Posted by Glothic

One, it saddens me that in order to be able to post on this board of alleged malcontents, misanthropes and creative non-conformists, one has to "follow the rules," and post an intro to gain "acceptance" into this community. Sort of incongruous with the whole idea of a subculture, don't you think?

You, sir, are easy to love!
When I saw this thread I was already preparing a whole speech about how unnecessary it is to ask for every single person to post an intro to speak.
Of course, if someone does stay around, it would be nice to look at its intro, but when someone only comes for a specific reason (i.e. your asking for help on a song) it's both tedious and time-squandering to make them write about themselves when they will possibly be gone after their doubts are cleared.

[Glothic]

Don't play me that shit. 80s goths were just as concerned with appearance as anyone else. The lens of time doesn't blur things THAT much, boyo.

Exactly. The lens of time blurred very little. 80s goths were absolutely concerned with their appearance. We just had fewer resources to get there, and fewer conventions to follow. Sure, we had Trash & Vaudeville in NYC, and it's various copycats, but mostly we hit thrift stores to hook our shit up. Admit it, goths now are in many cases, imitating the look pioneered in the 80s - it's just that now, they're using clothes that mimic vintage styles, produced by 8-year-old Filipino girls.

You ain't the first malcontent to slap on eyeliner,

No, but I was part of the first generation of malcontents that slapped on eyeliner. At least in the goth sense.

...so why don't you just come down off that midnight black high horse you rode in on.

Sadly, my horse is merely brown these days. Brown flecked with lots of gray.

You're just as fucking pretentious as the worst of the new generation of goths -excuse me, death rockers - that you seek to denigrate.

pretentious |priˈten ch əs| adjective - attempting to impress by affecting greater importance, talent, culture, etc., than is actually possessed : a pretentious literary device. -- OK. You're right. I guess I'm pretentious. Sorry Mr. Governor General of the Empire State.

For someone who supposedly doesn't give a shit about the opinions of the newbies...

Oh, but I do give a shit about what the newbies, as you call them, think. The very reason I registered on this board was, as a newbie, to seek help from people. This does not mean that I have to think it is necessary to comply with the silly convention that filling out a Kwestionaire about my favorite outfit is going to give you a clue as to who I am.

you sure did go to an awful lot of trouble posting things about yourself.

Well, it was no trouble, really! However, every bit of information you konw about me was volunteered. On my terms. Still, you know little about me.

Perhaps there's some dark, arcane logic behind this that I, in my status as untermensch, just don't get.

My posts were nerver directed at you specifically, yet you specifically took them to heart. I guess i struck a chord. I suggest you look within, or seek counseling to help you locate the source of your low self-esteem and persecution complex.

Just because you're old and "liked it first" doesn't mean shit.

Actually, it kind of does, a little. Not that I think I'm better, or was gother than anybody here - I'm not and wasn't. I just know that many of the old-school bands that many younger goths admire are bands that I have seen live, which is pretty cool. Same will be true of you for the generation that follows you.

Get the fuck over yourself.

Looking into it. Thank You.

[Glothic]

Originally Posted by Vako

Fellow firearms enthusiast here (hopefully not the creepy kind).

Well then I'm sorry you live in Kalifornia. You guys have the most restrictive gun-laws in the state!

But, I'm sure those low capacity magazines are saving lives all across the coast...

[Glothic]

Originally Posted by maggot

I'm totally Flylarvae.
The only problem here is that I don't even TRY to claim that I'm goth.

And I am funny and mean

Well, you're mean.



























OK, you're kind of funny too.

Plus, your avatar freaks me out -- you look almost exactly like I did in 1984.

Plus, I'm from Mass.

Weird.

[mrs.wes straker]

This whole thread is hilarious!!!! Ha ha ha
ha ha
ha ha
Hilarious.

[Glothic]

Yeah, I'm enjoying it.

This is a funner place than I thought it would be.

Thanks for stopping by my "Intro" everybody!

[PinstripesAndPithHelmets]

Originally Posted by Glothic

My posts were nerver directed at you specifically, yet you specifically took them to heart. I guess i struck a chord. I suggest you look within, or seek counseling to help you locate the source of your low self-esteem and persecution complex.

I never meant to imply that your remarks were directed at me. My entire post was an attempt to point out the fact that, simply by dint of your age, you carry yourself as superior. They did, indeed, strike a chord, but not because I assumed that your remarks were a targeted attack upon my person; I took them as a sweeping attack on an entire age range of which I am a part. Yes, there are assholes and 'posers' (Geneva is still working on a definition for that one) in every group and age bracket, but just because you came before doesn't make you special, different or right.
I'll spell it out in crayon, next time.

Originally Posted by Glothic

pretentious |pri?ten ch ?s| adjective - attempting to impress by affecting greater importance, talent, culture, etc., than is actually possessed : a pretentious literary device. -- OK. You're right. I guess I'm pretentious. Sorry Mr. Governor General of the Empire State.

To me you seem like a jerk, but credit where credit is due; that was a good one.

[mrs.wes straker]

Originally Posted by PinstripesAndPithHelmets

I'll spell it out in crayon, next time.



.......To me you seem like a jerk, but credit where credit is due; that was a good one.

LOL! You are both hilarious. Now kiddies, hug and make up.

[Clockwork]

The questionnaire did always vex me just the slightest bit. Yet it's not necessarily a cookie-cutter so much as it is a way to paint an equally clear picture of each person entering... ah well. I've no problem with people rejecting it, 'specially when it's done with your reasoning. I applaud that boldness, in fact.

Anyway... welcome to here, if you're not so righteously disgusted as to leave this instant =p