I'm too ugly to dress goth - Page 2

DarkPrayer · 11-08-2007, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Miss Happy Cat

Post and run, perhaps? Who knows where she may have gone. I get the feeling she’s on of those, “I’m so ugly, I wish I had a pretty face.” types who only thinks they’re ugly, when in fact, she probably looks just fine.

I agree. She only made 2 posts. I feel sorry for her. If she thinks she's so ugly, she's going to miss out on a lot. Like wearing great clothes that probably look great on her.

KontanKarite · 11-08-2007, 07:37 PM

I think Delecti said it best when he was telling someone about goth fashion. You can go out and buy a good goth outfit, but what if someone knows what you're wearing? The thing is, buying premade gothic clothing is cool and all, but technically, someone is going to be thinking, "That's a Lip Service top." or "Those are Tripp pants."

Find something that's minimal and then DIY that thing until it's yours. Getting an old London Fog black coat from a Thrift store is so much more classy and "goth" than buying a trench coat from Red Balls or Tripp.

New Rocks are awesome, but the drawback to amazing looking boots or amazing looking clothing at all, is that you WILL run into someone who wears the same damn things at the same damned time and that's pretty embarrassing.

killer_asian_Dax · 11-08-2007, 08:39 PM

If you think you're too ugly- then you are.

If you don't think you are. Then you're not. Simple as that.

Whatever you think about yourself, whether you voice it or not, will project outwardly and that's how people will see and react to you.

TopHaggardDoll · 11-08-2007, 10:45 PM

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That's stupid....ever heard of body dysmorphic disorder!?
I can't believe you actually posted those first two sentences.

To be honest, if you break out of your comfort zone and wear some form fitting clothes, have a nice haircut etc it can do LOADS for your confidence. Seriously....just DO IT! You'll start to see that things aren't as bad as you think.

Maybe you could get some therapy or ask a doctor to be tested for BDD. You have low self esteem beyond reason and it needs to stop.

killer_asian_Dax · 11-08-2007, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TopHaggardDoll

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That's stupid....ever heard of body dysmorphic disorder!?

Shut it. I know exactly what I'm talking about. I used to have it and I literally had to be "reprogrammed" (for lack of a better term) before I became ok with how I look. What I said justly and aptly applies. Yea, the specific words I used don't sound too nice, but I don't sugar coat. You want sugar coatings- go to Krispy Kreme.

TopHaggardDoll · 11-09-2007, 12:45 AM

Don't tell me to shut it because I know what i'm talking about too.

There is no such thing as ugly or beautiful, you can't just say, if you think you're ugly....then you more than likely are. Life doesn't work like that. It's all in opinion. "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder"...."one man's trash is another man's treasure."

It's one thing to not sugar-coat and another to say shit like that.

dark_dragon_of_ice · 11-09-2007, 12:57 AM

I'm too goth to dress ugly...

tw1sted*666* · 11-09-2007, 05:29 AM

well, i think u gotta look up at th brite side of life girly, just cos u dnt look like evry1 els that dusnt mean u look unnatractive

and also , not all goths think depressive thoughts; just thought ide throw that 1 in. u need 2 b yourself, if u wanna wear goth stuff cos u no its really u, then go 4 it! b proud of who u r

prophecyofdoom · 11-09-2007, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by black_heart

I like lots of styles of clothes, especially the wiccan/peasent/folk look, I recently bought a chainmail hoodie top with a cross on it and I'm beginning to like more gothic wear. Usually I just wear a black hoody,a baggy black band tee and baggy trousers. I'm so self conscious about my body and face that I find it hard to express myself cos I don't want to be noticed. I envy all the people who are unique and can express themselves as an individual without an hassle, and pull it off. I think I have a goth personality (I am constantly depressed, thinking about life all the time, morbid etc... not obsessed with pictures of goth girls in blood baths or razors in mouths however). I currently have dark purple hair (Schwarszkopf (or however u spell it) Live Cyber purple) but it's done nothing to me, it hasn't made me feel any better or feel like I'm being true to my personality. I'm afraid to start wearing platform boots like new rocks cos my ex best friend used to wear them (she wore a mixture of emo and goth clothing and said she was both) and she and others might think I'm copying them.
I love long hair, my hair is just touching my ass (but i am pretty small) so I dont wanna cut it, plus it hides my ugly face at times and makes me feel a lil better about myself. Cos I can't cut it I can't have any style, I'd like dreads one day but I'm not fussed on shaving my head when I'm bored of them.
I wish I had a pretty face that suited any hairstyle. Maybe having god fasion sense is based on self confidence... I'm an introvert so maybe I should just leave it.
PS - if any of you have seen Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, I really envy Kate Winslet's character cos she has bright coloured hair that's always changing and she's beautiful so she looks good no matter what colour.

ok rant over ^_^

Oh, come on. You can't be *that* ugly. Look around, most of the general population aren't exactly supermodels, are they? You don't need to look a certain way to deserve love and respect. Why do you feel like you have to hide yourself? Everybody has their good points and bad points... Learn what your best features are, play them up, and don't sweat the bad points, we all have flaws. I used to kind of feel that way, that other people were better than me, just because they were not me... I used to wear a jacket *all the time* to hide my body, even though I saw pleanty of bigger woman were walking around getting complimented on how amazing looking they were... For me that kind of thinking just faded with maturity, but perhaps a few sessions with a therapist are called for here?

ysardis69 · 11-09-2007, 08:04 AM

seriously what is goth is it the leather, the dark morbid clothes or would you cobnsider it to be the lifestyle that makes you feel morbid and complete. I can wear what i want and be who i want and i love to wear black yet i love to spice it up with greens and purples.

Edward Strange · 11-09-2007, 08:21 AM

I'm rather sad this person seems to have left, never to return, because they happen to live near where I do (well... Ish, Wales is hardly a huge country), and it would have been oh so very nice to have had a 'play mate'.
Oh, if there was only some conventionally placed email address to write too...

God, I am -so- alone.

black_heart · 11-09-2007, 01:36 PM

hi, i havent run off i am here. by the way electrosexual, i'm not one for standin up for myself hence the nature of my post, but as this is virtual hey what can i lose so i just wanna say, u dont know me so if i wanna talk about how i feel then shouldnt that be ok? also, i'm not lookin for sympathy at all, i just wanted to finally let some of my feelings out, i cant tell anyone in 'the real world' so ive resorted to this and obviously oops thats wrong too, i cant bloody please anybody can i. but yeah isnt the point of online forums to talk to others, to possibly get advice etc well if it isnt then i might as well leave cos i obv dont belong here!

ps sorry for me associating goth with depression, i felt i could belong sumwhere thats all, im just f*cked up, lol

delicti · 11-09-2007, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ysardis69

seriously what is goth is it the leather, the dark morbid clothes or would you cobnsider it to be the lifestyle that makes you feel morbid and complete. I can wear what i want and be who i want and i love to wear black yet i love to spice it up with greens and purples.

It's all about the inflatable bananas.

Methadrine · 11-09-2007, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by delicti

It's all about the inflatable bananas.

..and the rubber bats. Don't forget those squeaky friends of ours.

Graveyard.Crow · 11-09-2007, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by black_heart

hi, i havent run off i am here. by the way electrosexual, i'm not one for standin up for myself hence the nature of my post, but as this is virtual hey what can i lose so i just wanna say, u dont know me so if i wanna talk about how i feel then shouldnt that be ok? also, i'm not lookin for sympathy at all, i just wanted to finally let some of my feelings out, i cant tell anyone in 'the real world' so ive resorted to this and obviously oops thats wrong too, i cant bloody please anybody can i. but yeah isnt the point of online forums to talk to others, to possibly get advice etc well if it isnt then i might as well leave cos i obv dont belong here!

ps sorry for me associating goth with depression, i felt i could belong sumwhere thats all, im just f*cked up, lol

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DeathToLems · 11-09-2007, 05:42 PM

For a moment there I thought we lost you.

No need to go into defence mode.

I think your post has got a lot of members here talking and basically giving each other advice and points of views in the long run.

KontanKarite · 11-09-2007, 05:54 PM

I think you're worth keeping around, Black Heart.

I was once like you. I really was. I used to be down on myself so much and though I don't think goth is what made myself feel better in life, I will say that the subculture HAS helped me a little bit in self love, actually.

I wont lie, I'm 23 and I've only really known of the "G" word for about five years. Before that, I was just... well, I only really had my own thoughts to keep me company. I never really felt like I was a part of anything. Even now, I wouldn't consider myself a PART of a whole. I'm a "goth" and I participate in it, but I find now that it's not all that I am. There's parts about me just as sweet, just as mysterious, and just as beautiful.

*extends hand* Give it time, Black Heart. We are all artists of our lives. Create.

prophecyofdoom · 11-09-2007, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by KontanKarite

We are all artists of our lives. Create.

OOh. I'm writing that down!!

killer_asian_Dax · 11-09-2007, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TopHaggardDoll

There is no such thing as ugly or beautiful, you can't just say, if you think you're ugly....then you more than likely are. Life doesn't work like that.

Life DOES work like that. Perception is 9/10th of ANY 1 PERSON'S reality. So my statement is completely 100% apt and valid. Ugly and beautiful DO exist. They are guidelines and as such vary from person to person. Now, I'm done bickering over the minutae as I am not about to hi-jack this poor girl's thread.

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Originally Posted by black_heart

hi, i havent run off i am here. by the way electrosexual, i'm not one for standin up for myself hence the nature of my post, but as this is virtual hey what can i lose so i just wanna say, u dont know me so if i wanna talk about how i feel then shouldnt that be ok? also, i'm not lookin for sympathy at all, i just wanted to finally let some of my feelings out, i cant tell anyone in 'the real world' so ive resorted to this and obviously oops thats wrong too, i cant bloody please anybody can i. but yeah isnt the point of online forums to talk to others, to possibly get advice etc well if it isnt then i might as well leave cos i obv dont belong here!

ps sorry for me associating goth with depression, i felt i could belong sumwhere thats all, im just f*cked up, lol

You seem to me as though you need a LOT of reassurance and guidance. You belong here as much as the rest of us do and are very welcome to stay. Just don't make the mistake of thinking "goths" are a depressed, suicidal, or (instert extreme emotion here) group. We all have our problems and [most] of us here are most than happy to give advice when asked for it. Please stay, learn and hopefully grow.

KontanKarite · 11-09-2007, 06:17 PM

I love you, Dax...

Edward Strange · 11-10-2007, 03:41 AM

I agree muchly with Kontan, because I felt very much the same way myself until very recently... And goodness knows -even now-. Goth has really helped me learn alot about myself and who I am and helped me get a little more comfortable with who I is.
And I would like you to stay very much because you happen to live near me. ><

And in addition to Graveyard Crow's pillar of support, if you are ever feeling down and need someone to chat too please feel free to email me or MSN me at...
[email protected] (Get the joke? Anne Gwish? Anguish? Ho ho).
'Twould be an honour and a pleasure to help.

black_heart · 11-13-2007, 01:03 PM

'We are all artists of our lives. Create.'

Kontan, that quote rules.
You're right Dax, I am in a way looking for guidance, I always put myself down and I'm holding myself back from being who I really am. I will try and have more confidence so I can show the real me. Looking back, my post seems really childish and desperate, so sorry if I annoyed anyone. I'm glad all of the feedback said that it's not about how you look to conform but it's just looking however the hell you want so your personality can come through. I should just not give a damn.
My old friend did the whole stereotypical goth thing and would associate depression and self harm etc with being goth; she really was a bad example for me.

Stormtrooper of Death · 11-13-2007, 03:44 PM

Personal perception is 8.5/10 that makes you think you're ugly. Hell, look at me I've been shot down oodles of times. (Seems most girls don't like studded jackets and mohawks) I know I'm not ugly, I don't care what other people think. Just be headstrong. Getting shot down gives me more time to practice guitar and write anti police songs for my band.

kimaru · 11-13-2007, 03:46 PM

I wish that there were guys at my school with mohawks and studded jackets...

Opteron_Man · 12-08-2007, 07:22 PM

never give up. let your inner goth out!