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Old 02-28-2008, 01:13 PM   #26
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I can think of a few very successful biological complex's that it works for. Ants & Bees, wasp, & termites I'm sure I'm missing more however I can only think of insects and not higher animals. Perhaps the key for why it doesn't work for animals more advanced is because of the reasons given by the post here and the reason it works so well for these long evolved lower insects, and one of the reasons for the longevity which has out lasted the majority of land animals which are more advanced but come and go with time on earth.
In these groups working as a collective as small as they are huge and can be effective at very large rewards for the colony, and pose a threat to much larger living things both fauna & flora as well as beneficial.
These are some communist platforms that work well for the bugs.
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Old 02-28-2008, 05:41 PM   #27
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about all i got to say about the shallow interpretive skills of the posters in this thread...
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Old 02-28-2008, 06:29 PM   #28
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Marx is cool.
But Bakunin is cooler.
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Old 02-28-2008, 09:50 PM   #29
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Dude, mother FUCK oil.

I saw recently, a car converted to run on Veggie oil. VEGGIE OIL people.

Explain why something as simple as a veggie oil powered engine does not standardly exist. Because it's too expensive? FUCK a bunch of that logic.

If the day comes that I own a vehicle, it's going to be veggie oil powered unless a better alternative presents itself. Everyone else can spend 4 dollars a gallon on gas, just give me your old cooking oil and grease when you don't need it anymore.

It is interesting to note that the basic, beginning design that led to the modern day diesel engine was designed to run off vegetable oil (I am 99% sure of this, if it wasn't directly designed for that it was in the same decade or so). And, the conversion from diesel engine to vegetable oil is relatively simple. The main problem with it is that you have to thin it out, either through heating or mixing it with something else. There are several manufacturers that DO produce engines that run on vegetable oil, they just aren't advertised as much, for whatever reason :/
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Old 02-29-2008, 12:55 AM   #30
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The other problem with biofuel is they put the price of food way up and cause aid to cost more.
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Old 02-29-2008, 08:35 AM   #31
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I think we should start an alternative fuels thread, so the Marxism discussion can progress un-impeded.
*runs off to start alt. fuels/energy thread*
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Old 04-19-2008, 09:32 PM   #32
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Who else thinks it could work, if people weren't so greedy?
Whose to say that humans are invariably and engrained to be greedy? Certainly in western culture, especially America, greed has become part of the grain that makes us members of society. But is it natural? Science actually isn't conclusive on this.

If you look at humans historically, there is no reason to automatically assume this. Look at the Ladakh society (before the missionaries came in). Or other tribal cultures... where the idea of rugged individualism, and extreme self-interest is nonexistant.

I would argue that we are the product of our social environment, but also have the capability to change that.
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