Thoughts on gay marriage? - Page 6

dreamydancer · 09-05-2005, 05:45 PM

You're worse than me. Honestly, did you even glance at the other posts on 'Gay Marriage?' You should have noticed that not many were slaughtering the English language. Go read the playground rules in 'For the Newbies' before you make an illiterate ass out of yourself!!!

And who the hell are you to tell people that being gay is wrong?!! You're the no typing skills DUMBASS!!!

edible_eye · 09-05-2005, 05:57 PM

whoa... dreamy...

i'm finding myself drawn to you...

although i just realized you're not legal yet. sigh.

still - nice scorching.

dreamydancer · 09-05-2005, 06:37 PM

Thanks, I try my best.

edible_eye · 09-05-2005, 06:46 PM

hey, living - look familiar?

Spazik · 09-06-2005, 10:52 AM

Theres no logical arguement for why gay marraige shouldn't be allowed. "To protect the sanctity of Holy Matrimony" my ass. Holy matrimony lost it's sanctity when they put "Who wants to Marry a Multi Millionare" on TV. "If you allow gays to marry, people will want to marry a goat next!". How do you make that jump? Gays are PEOPLE, goats are ANIMALS. Durp-a durp-a fucking durp. "God hates fags!" Who gives a flying shit? I don't force my worship of the Great Flying Spaghetti Monster on you, don't force your stupid ass Christianity on me. Keep your religion out of our government and be happy that your slimy business already gets out of paying property tax.

FenrisQueen · 09-08-2005, 09:02 PM

oh please, xngie. The last thing I remember is you kidnapping Drgnlovers boobies...and then leaving me out of it!!

mortiis · 09-08-2005, 09:56 PM

come on im mean gay people should be able to do anything they want like get married or **** each other. i know in america the vilifacation of gays is country wide but most americans who have serious problems with gays have serious problems with '''******s'' and marry their cousins and live in a trailer park earning 50 bucks a week to feed their 13 kids and two wives........... of course i dont have much against yokels or hicks but let the gays live life how they want to oh and spazik is entirely right with the whole god hates fags thing

wikked · 09-13-2005, 03:20 PM

Aww... too many comments in here from people putting it all on the Christians. Contrary to popular belief, true Christians are not like that. WE actually believe in *gasp* CHRIST.

He taught people to be loving and compassionate. He befriended prostitutes and thieves. I can hardly imagine Jesus saying, "Well, that whore over there who destroyed twenty marriages is just great! However, the homosexual over there who has been kind to others and ever faithful to his significant other... now, he's just awful!"

Those so~called "Christians" just like to spit out words like "God" and "Bible" to validate their ignorance. Please don't lump the real Christians in with them, because they're an insult to all we believe in.

As for gay couples adopting? I still don't understand the mentality that they shouldn't. It's as annoying to me as the people who are against interracial adoptions. There are too many children who need to be raised in nuturing homes, and too many nurturing homes that WANT to take in those children... but can't just because of the ignorance of others.

Empty_Purple_Stars · 09-13-2005, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Xnguela

Wait a second... Binkie likes girls?

Why does the best shit have to happen while I'm gone?

Damn it.

Man, I've been all over that for months..

Although I have yet to do more than make her smile a few times, I think..

Sniffle..

But yeah, that has been the ' oh so tantalizing ' known and much discussed fact for many months now.

Since even before we went down for those few months..

Not me and Binkie.. Gothic.Net.. Ha..

I can dream though right??

Soft Sigh..

She is the world's most perfect woman ykno?

Oh Yes...

EpItApH · 09-22-2005, 07:52 AM

umm.. Well my views.. hmm..
yes gay marriage should be sanction in all countries, states, all over the world..
and as for adoption.. why the hell not..
If a couple of the same sex wants to have a family of their own, then whats the govt. or anyone else got to do with it?..

NoneSuch · 09-22-2005, 08:50 AM

Well I obviously support gay marriage and feel sorry for anyone who is against it , I dont mind others having differnt opinions but in this case you have to be a pretty pathetic person to believe people dont deserve the right to show there love for each other just because there the same sex.

I find it fairly disgusting bush let his religious views get infront of his politics something he promised he would never let happen but honestly what else could we expect from him ?

EpItApH · 09-22-2005, 09:46 AM

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I find it fairly disgusting bush ...

I find Bush 'fairly' disgusting.

Star of Blight · 09-22-2005, 10:02 AM

Well first I would like to preface this with Good Morning (for reference it's 9am here) It looks like a rather nice Thursday morning, I actually managed to not sleep again last night (5th in a row) and I feel rather bad about not putting in my two cents here yet. So if none of you mind I'm just gonna bable and rant a bit. Given the subject I'll probably stop when my fingers start huring (or just plain fall off)

Now in the social circle that I nominally associate with, there's a healthy mix of sexual lifestyles, everything to your rather vanilla straight folks to the chick who likes gay Furry bondage porn. I also happen to have a dispropotionate number of homosexual friends and quite a few homosexual relatives (maybe I have a gay magnet or something). Now, for the most part, I've noticed that people in homosexual relationships tend to be more stable in those relationships, and that homosexual people in general tend to just be better, more social aware and forward thinking people. Granted if I was a member of the most hated minority since Jews in Berlin then I think I would be too. And you've gotta admit, if the "moral majority" in the United States had it's way about it then it would be like Ramses and the Hebrew's all over again. But I digress. Well....sorta.

So we've got alot of generally good, stable and nice people who are wanting equal rights to everyone else, and in the end they aren't getting them because of who and how they fuck and the lifestyle they want for themselves. The government just loves to get in peoples faces about how they should and should not live their lives. Most of it stemming from some moral code that not everyone believes to be proper. And this moral code happens to be supported by the lowest common denominator of the voting public. Yes, I'm talking about the slackjawed fuckwits out there who think Jerry Springer is insightful television, thinks FoxNews Network is unbiased and accurate...that's right boys and girls I'm talking about Joe Average America. Joe, who thinks sodomy should be illegal yet has no problems with drinking a 12 pack of Bud and slapping his wife around. Joe, who has five kids, all of them just as stupid as he is, all of them growing up to be just like him. And Joe isn't just from some midwest of south east state, driving a pickup and wearing a John Deere hat. Joe's also from the suburbs of San Jose, driving his SUV and going to his job as some middle management shmuck. Joe lives in the ghetto's of LA, listens to rap music and likes sportswear and may or may not run with a gang. Joe comes from all walks of life where you find the average and the mundane. This is Joe Average America...and to people who would like to just live their lives and be happy, he's public enemy number one, even though most people don't know it.

Now I'm not advocating that we do something drastic and kill Joe here (even though Joe's responsible for most the crime, environmental distruction, intollerance and hate found in this country) at least....not yet. This wouldn't be a S.O.B. rant if there wasn't threats of bodily harm to someone. But first I would like to point out Joe's big crime in this case, which is intolerance. Intolerance, in my mind, just boils down to one thing though, that being arrogance. Extreme arrogance at that. The belief that you are so morally right, that your opinion is the correct one, beyond reproache, and that anyone who does not agree with and follow your moral masturbation is wrong, imoral, sinfull and going to hell (or what the fuck ever). So Joe's an arrogant motherfucker. Personally I think Joe needs a heavy dose of humility.

Now this could be done many ways. There's the "wear him down" method, which is what people seem to be going with so far. Personally I like the "smacking him upside the head with a sharp brick" method. I don't know about you, but I would be pretty fucking humble....after waking up from the coma that is.

(see, told you there would be threats of violence)

But at the same time, the gay community does a few things to make it hard on themselves as well. Look at me, I'm equal opportunity.

First of all, acceptance comes not by force feeding it to people, but by slipping into the mainstream. Having flaming homosexuals running around in TV giving straght guy's fashion tips isn't exactly helping the "cause", it just makes you look like wierdo's.

Pride Parades, a personal peeve of mine. To quote something I heard on the net one time. "The only thing these parades do is make straight folks think that the S&M rainbow Apocylipse is coming to town" And it's true, not really great ways of getting accepted into the mainstream.

And speaking of rainbows, who thought this was a good idea? Do straight people walk around with t-shirts, bumper stickers, coffee mugs, key chains and pride parades declaring their sexual preference? No, they don't. Do you see people who practice other forms of alternative lifestyles and/or sexualities go on about it as much as you do? No. Well, a select few cummolds do but not the vast majority. Respect is a two way street folks, you have to give respect in order to earn it. And the best way to get respect from Joe Average America is to not force it down his throat but to work your way into it. Yeah it may not happen in your lifetime (unless you force it down his throat, and then you just breed the long lasting resentment that we still to this day see as a result of the Civil Rights movement of the 1960's) but it will happen. Give it time people. And this whole bit here brings me to todays word of the day....

dis·creet
adj.
Marked by, exercising, or showing prudence and wise self-restraint in speech and behavior; circumspect.
Free from ostentation or pretension; modest.

Try using a little discretion now and then, everyone. Again it's a two way street. What people do in intimate situations shouldn't concern us (unless it's actually harmful ie. dangerous to others). Keep your noses out of each others bedrooms. It shouldn't matter what people think is appropreat sex. I tend to like a little kink, I have friends who are heavily into bondage, I have others that are totaly vanilla and as I said before I know a girl who's into gay Furry bondage porn. But it's not our job to police each others fucking. And it sure as fuck isn't our job to rub it in other peoples faces.

Well, I think I'm done for now.

demoncross · 09-26-2005, 03:52 PM

I personally think that if two people want to get married they should, hell if three people want to get married they very well should, it is not going to stop the stars from comming out at night and it won't bring horsemen ridding in from the underworld, what anyone does in the privacy of their homes is their business and every persons sexual preference should not determine their social status or standing.
I won't go out on the street with a huge sign "support gay marriage" nor with "ban gay marriage" sign. I believe love is greater than all things and who is anyone to say the love of your life has to be of the oposite sex.

NoneSuch · 09-26-2005, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by demoncross

I personally think that if two people want to get married they should, hell if three people want to get married they very well should, it is not going to stop the stars from comming out at night and it won't bring horsemen ridding in from the underworld, what anyone does in the privacy of their homes is their business and every persons sexual preference should not determine their social status or standing.
I won't go out on the street with a huge sign "support gay marriage" nor with "ban gay marriage" sign. I believe love is greater than all things and who is anyone to say the love of your life has to be of the oposite sex.

But .. But ! Its destroying "Good American Family Values!"

What aload of bullshit I really do not know what these religious nutters have against it

Spooky_Gurl · 09-26-2005, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by spoonjigglesatan

yes, of course gay persons should be allowed to get married and adopt children. why not?

totally agree...and on lesbianism too...my godmother is a lesbian

not like you needed to know

demoncross · 09-27-2005, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooky_Gurl

totally agree...and on lesbianism too...my godmother is a lesbian

not like you needed to know

Yes, that was exactly my point it should not be:
john the bisexual
jane the lesbian
jude the asexual
jackie the pansexual
andrew the stereosexual
mary the heterosexual

Why should a sexual preference matter? they are all people with graces and flaws. Whats next labeling people by their fetishes: algolagnia, exhibitionism, fetishism, balloon fetishism, fur fetishism, leather fetishism, panty fetishism, robot fetishism, rubber fetishism, shoe fetishism, smoking fetishism, spandex fetishism, transvestic fetishism, autogynephilia, sadomasochism, urolagnia, voyeurism. So it will be jane the shoe fetishism-urolagnia lesbian

It should be plain and simple: "If two consenting capable adults want to get married, they should"

Empty_Purple_Stars · 09-27-2005, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by demoncross

So it will be jane the shoe fetishism-urolagnia lesbian

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Hidden Rage · 09-27-2005, 10:06 PM

Well, this issue it touchy for me, and I could waste time explaining exactly why I feel badly towards it, but I won't. Let me make this known: I DO NOT hate homosexuals. I love them. I simply feel that homosexuality is wrong, but the people themselves I will never hate.

Also: I will always accept people for who they are, even if I dont agree with everything that they do. That's what part of being a Goth is, right? Being a free thinker, being open minded? I think it's ridiculous when someone hates another person for simply being different than they are.

NoneSuch · 09-28-2005, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Hidden Rage

Well, this issue it touchy for me, and I could waste time explaining exactly why I feel badly towards it, but I won't. Let me make this known: I DO NOT hate homosexuals. I love them. I simply feel that homosexuality is wrong, but the people themselves I will never hate.

Also: I will always accept people for who they are, even if I dont agree with everything that they do. That's what part of being a Goth is, right? Being a free thinker, being open minded? I think it's ridiculous when someone hates another person for simply being different than they are.

Well , Of course I'm going to automaticly be offended by that comment but then I forced myself to remember each deserve their own opinion and if it does not get in the way of how they see / judge someone then theres no problems with them having it. :smile:

Goth4Jesus · 09-28-2005, 12:54 PM

I'm for it.I don't see anything wrong with it...I mean if two people love each other whether same sex partners or different genders shouldn't they be together?I mean I'm bisexual so...

-Goth4Jesus

punkirony · 09-28-2005, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Goth4Jesus

I'm for it.I don't see anything wrong with it...I mean if two people love each other whether same sex partners or different genders shouldn't they be together?I mean I'm bisexual so...

-Goth4Jesus

Heehee.. I find you quite intersesting. Your name being "Goth4Jesus" and saying that you're bisexual is quite odd. Doesn't your God believe that any form of homosexuality is evil? Well, that's what that joke book called The Bible says; and I believe it's all a load of crap.

But, getting back on topic...I do agree with you. I don't see anything wrong with it. We can't help who we love, and no one should keep anyone from expressing their love for each other.

Goth4Jesus · 09-28-2005, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by punkirony

Heehee.. I find you quite intersesting. Your name being "Goth4Jesus" and saying that you're bisexual is quite odd. Doesn't your God believe that any form of homosexuality is evil? Well, that's what that joke book called The Bible says; and I believe it's all a load of crap.

But, getting back on topic...I do agree with you. I don't see anything wrong with it. We can't help who we love, and no one should keep anyone from expressing their love for each other.

I believe that God created everyone bisexual.Some go heterosexual,some go homosexual,some stay bi,and some loose interest in either gender all together.Besides,Jesus never said anything against homosexuality.The Bible teached that he loves everyone equally.

I'm sorry if I'm offending anyone,I'm not here to preach,I'm here for friends.Thanks for finding me interesting by the way.

-Goth4Jesus

punkirony · 09-28-2005, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Goth4Jesus

I believe that God created everyone bisexual.Some go heterosexual,some go homosexual,some stay bi,and some loose interest in either gender all together.

I must say that that is a really awesome opinion!! I may not believe in God, but jeez!...Where did you come up with that!?! Now, when people have something negative to say about gender preferences, I will say that to them.

You are an extremely intelligent person and are offending no one. In fact, you've just made yourself a new friend. I like your mind. (and that's really saying something.)

Goth4Jesus · 09-28-2005, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by punkirony

I must say that that is a really awesome opinion!! I may not believe in God, but jeez!...Where did you come up with that!?! Now, when people have something negative to say about gender preferences, I will say that to them.

You are an extremely intelligent person and are offending no one. In fact, you've just made yourself a new friend. I like your mind. (and that's really saying something.)

Aw,I will so loved!*huggles*After a lot of thinking that idea popped into my head and refused to leave.So,I thought about it...This has to do with my beliefs but here goes...if homosexuality is a sin then why does did God make it?He created us all with our own characteristics...we are all biologically bisexual,although our sexuality may change as we get older,like I said some will stay that way,some will turn to the opposite sex,and others with go for thier same sex,and soem may loose interest in both sexes all together.He told us he made us the way we are and that he loves us the way we are.And Jesus never spoke out against homosexuality.

You see...in reality,Exodus(one of the books in the Old Testament)actaully says that people were not to practice homosexuality because of something that has to do with reproducment but that doesn't neccarcialy means that it was wrong.But when Jesus came and died for us he conquered those sins so now they are not axzactly called sins anymore.The thing where it speaks out agaisnt homosexuality was just a rule of reproducement for the Jews,not for us(although it's noty exzactly considered a sin anymore).However,God still gave us the Ten Commandments which he wants us to live by.It sayd so in the Binle that God amde us all uniquely and with our own personality(that includes sexuality).

Again,I say that I am not trynig to get anyone to convert I was just saying how I came to believe that. Thanks for listening.If you don't understand please tell me.

-Goth4Jesus