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10-29-2008, 09:15 AM
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Gorgoroth.
http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/bla...sitemID=107859
Gaahl is out as gay. Sweet. Not sweet because he's gay, but just because Black Metal has so long touted this right-wing reputation and now one of the forerunners has upset that balance a little bit. Disassociating Black Metal from the stereotype is a good thing, and he's been remarkably frank about it, so, awesome.
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10-29-2008, 09:26 AM
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I'm really not that surprised, to be honest. People tend to simplify the politics of Black Metal and usually just label it "right-wing". In reality, you're talking about a pretty large pool of political and social opinions that go into the music. Are there Nazis in Black Metal? Of course, just look at Vaarg. But there's Black Metal that's associated with some really disparate movements, just as one example Wolves In The Throne Room have the Animal Rights Movement as their main political component.
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10-29-2008, 09:40 AM
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Speaking of animal rights, vegetarian Gaahl with a fur coat designer. Weird.
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10-29-2008, 09:40 AM
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Yea I just scrolled down and saw that picture. Gaahl with a guy wearing a fur coat with a shirt and tie. Too weird.
Edit: It says he's a "modeling agent". Where'd you get fur coat designer? He's just wearing one...
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10-29-2008, 09:52 AM
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A lot of elitists claim he is a ' pussy '
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10-29-2008, 10:10 AM
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Yea, noone is "kvlt" enough for some people. To be "trve kvlt" you have to record on vinyl, never having made more than 20 copies of an album, live in your mother's basement, and bow down and cut yourself in front of your Impaled Nazarene (goddammit I hate Impaled Nazarene!) poster each morning.
Seriously, I hate Black Metal fans, which is ironic considering how much of it I listen to.
I dunno how you could consider Gaahl a pussy, more than any other artist I know, he's stuck up for what he believes in and who he is, despite all the trouble doing so has caused him. I really respect that in a way (no, not beating up a guy and force feeding him his own blood, the beliefs).
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10-29-2008, 10:57 AM
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Wow, what a blow for the scene. No pun intended.
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10-29-2008, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Draconysius
Wow, what a blow for the scene. No pun intended.
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Think of the time you could have saved yourself by not typing that, and all the time you would have saved us all having to read that.
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10-29-2008, 12:57 PM
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I respect Gaahl.
Impaled Nazarene are wicked!
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10-29-2008, 01:16 PM
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Impaled Nazarene are for little kiddies who read Revolver and think that I.N. and Burzum are the only "real" black metal bands that anyone should listen to, and that any band that attempts to change the Black Metal sound, are "poseurs". Because obviously, if you don't sound EXACTLY like someone else, you can't possibly be Black Metal. Oh and if you're a Nazi, that makes you more "kvlt" right?
Plus, they sound like shit.
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10-29-2008, 01:52 PM
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Idiot above - Impaled Nazarene have said on many occasions that they are against white supremacy. They are proud to have black fans. And I.N doesn't sound anything like Trve black metal. What the fuck are you on about?
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10-29-2008, 02:35 PM
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I've never heard Impaled Nazarene but if they're anything like Burzum I don't want to. Burzum bored the fuck out of me.
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10-29-2008, 02:38 PM
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More like Venom than shitty Burzum.
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10-30-2008, 02:45 AM
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Respect to Gaahl for coming out of the closet, especially with the possible repercussions within the scene. Though I make many a joke about the "....................................Satan" interview & my novelty BM project "Gay for Gaahl" I have always found him interesting ~ maybe because we share similar views etc.
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10-30-2008, 03:38 PM
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Respect 2 ma hommiEEs bruv from another muv!
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10-30-2008, 05:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Necrophagist
Idiot above - Impaled Nazarene have said on many occasions that they are against white supremacy. They are proud to have black fans. And I.N doesn't sound anything like Trve black metal. What the fuck are you on about?
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First off, saying something like "idiot above" makes me think you're not capable of a level of logical thought high enough to make it worth responding to you. Just so you know.
I never even implied there was a connection between Impaled Nazarene and Nazism.
I'd definitely listen to Burzum over I.N. though, Burzum is the one Black Metal bands with Nazi connections that I listen to. And even Vaarg's Nazi beliefs are debatable since he seems to have distanced himself from all that lately.
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10-30-2008, 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by PortraitOfSanity
Think of the time you could have saved yourself by not typing that, and all the time you would have saved us all having to read that.
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Gee, I'm real sorry. I'll never do it again. That was as tasteless and hackneyed as Duckman.
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10-30-2008, 08:54 PM
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Yea, but when Duckman says stuff like that, it's usually funny...
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10-31-2008, 05:59 AM
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Burzum is rubbish, and Varg is an attention seeker.
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10-31-2008, 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by PortraitOfSanity
Yea, but when Duckman says stuff like that, it's usually funny...
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Why, I'll never know.
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11-03-2008, 04:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Necrophagist
Burzum is rubbish, and Varg is an attention seeker.
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You know, I'd go a little bit further than that, speaking as he killed a person in his band...
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11-03-2008, 09:21 PM
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Twilight of the Idols by Gorgoroth is fucking amazing!
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Because before too long there'll be nothing left alive, not a creature on the land or sea, a bird in the sky. They'll be shot, harpooned, eaten, and hunted too much, vivisected by the clever men who prove that there's no such things as a fair world with live and let live. The Royal family go hunting, what an example to give to the people they lead and that don't include me, I've seen enough pain and torture of those who can't speak...
- Tough Shit, Mickey by Conflict
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11-06-2008, 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Rorschach Twin
You know, I'd go a little bit further than that, speaking as he killed a person in his band...
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Euronymous actually recorded only 1 track on 1 Burzum album, he was a member of Mayhem.
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11-06-2008, 08:56 AM
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Yeah, I was going to say that. Varg was Mayhem's session bassist for a little while. Burzum was a one-guy project, if only he had killed a member of his band...
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11-07-2008, 02:26 AM
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You know, the bizarre controversy surrounding Mayhem is really the only thing worth talking about them. They're boring as a band.
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Because before too long there'll be nothing left alive, not a creature on the land or sea, a bird in the sky. They'll be shot, harpooned, eaten, and hunted too much, vivisected by the clever men who prove that there's no such things as a fair world with live and let live. The Royal family go hunting, what an example to give to the people they lead and that don't include me, I've seen enough pain and torture of those who can't speak...
- Tough Shit, Mickey by Conflict
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