Childhood Bullies

Originally Posted by Godslayer Jillian

First of all that's not even a complete sentence.
Second, honestly, that's how I see you, so why not stop trying to simply insult me and make something more meaningful with your time, like actually posing an argument?

Let's take a look at your style of argument:

Originally Posted by Godslayer Jillian

Social darwinism really has been discarded. There's no evidence nor reasoning to back it up, after all.

That's not an argument; clearly you're an individual who has no understanding about Social Darwinism (but you still felt the need to be a worthless babbler and say your piece).

Moving on:

Originally Posted by Godslayer Jillian

The biggest bullshit right now is that you're this close to demanding me to prove a negative.
Social Darwinism is a horrible misconstruction of Darwinian theory. Its whole premise of "survival of the fittest" applied to society is not even evolutionarily factual.
So if there's no scientific backing for social darwinism, then it just becomes a harsh form of ideal, emphasis on the 'ideal'.

The world does not belong to the meek; and there is no precedant you can cite me that disproves that.

Attractive, charismatic, sexy, outgoing, intelligent, powerful people rule this earth and command all social circles of any worth.

They decide.

Not the meek.

PS - I'll stop throwing insults at you when you demonstrate a modicum of intelligence, rather than just babbling for the sake of it.

[Godslayer Jillian]

Originally Posted by Sir. Helpmann

PS - I'll stop throwing insults at you when you demonstrate a modicum of intelligence, rather than just babbling for the sake of it.

Seeing as how that was quite unnecessary, isn't that babbling on?
Stop being so hypocritical.
And if you believe the praise of good character traits entail social darwinism, I'm clearly not the one that has the burden of demonstrating "a modicum of intelligence"

[Opteron_Man]

Originally Posted by Sir. Helpmann

The stronger always has the right to carry through what he/she wills.

If you're too fucking weak to fight for yourself, I wont shed a single tear for you; you don't deserve any better in my opinion.

I am still here. They didn't crush my strength of will.
I will not be beaton down.

In some ways, the experience of being picked apart helped me. It made me stronger and hardened. One day I will run into the very same bullies that helped make my grade school pure hell and I will crush them under my heel. Vengeance Is Sweeter When It Comes At The Appropriate Time.

Originally Posted by Opteron_Man

I am still here. They didn't crush my strength of will.
I will not be beaton down. In some ways, the experience of being picked apart
helped me. It made me stronger and hardened. One day I will run into the very same bullies that helped make my grade school pure hell and I will crush them under my heel.

That's the spirit

Originally Posted by Godslayer Jillian

Seeing as how that was quite unnecessary, isn't that babbling on?
Stop being so hypocritical.
And if you believe the praise of good character traits entail social darwinism, I'm clearly not the one that has the burden of demonstrating "a modicum of intelligence"

Well that line of argument is more or less the same type of reasoning that a theist may employ against an atheist.

Let's take a look at your line of so-called "reasoning" in action:

A: "If you do not believe in God, you clearly can't have any intelligence"

B: "lol"

A: "WILL YOU STOP LAUGHING AT ME?!"

B: "lol"

For a man who holds reasoning as an absolute, I find it interesting that it's the one area you lack even more than your elementary knowledge of base facts.

[Godslayer Jillian]

Just because you keep saying shit over and over and louder and louder, it doesn't make them true.
Didn't work for Bill O' Reilly, it won't work for you.

In any case, why show my increasingly clear intellectual superiority to you when you can't follow one simple argument?
I will give you something, though: for all the baseless stupidity you say, you somehow keep bringing me back to try to talk to you. That deserves some respect.
But it's obvious you don't dare actually state your opinions, so why bother? I'll try to stop talking, it's not a big deal if you believe in one obsolete ideology.

Originally Posted by Godslayer Jillian

Just because you keep saying shit over and over and louder and louder, it doesn't make them true.
Didn't work for Bill O' Reilly, it won't work for you.

Your line of argument and reasoning resembles Bill O' Reilly, Operah & Dr. Phill. Clearly you're a kid who has grown up watching too much American TV than reading books.

Originally Posted by Godslayer Jillian

In any case, why show my increasingly clear intellectual superiority to you when you can't follow one simple argument?

Just because you keep saying shit over and over and louder and louder, it doesn't make them true.

Originally Posted by Godslayer Jillian

I will give you something, though: for all the baseless stupidity you say, you somehow keep bringing me back to try to talk to you. That deserves some respect.

Do I detect some unwarranted self-importance?

Originally Posted by Godslayer Jillian

But it's obvious you don't dare actually state your opinions, so why bother? I'll try to stop talking, it's not a big deal if you believe in one obsolete ideology.

I've clearly stated my opinion regarding bullying; Just because you keep saying shit over and over and louder and louder, it doesn't make them true.

Are you done trying to look smart?

[Godslayer Jillian]

Don't you love it? You are a step behind me always.
In the Obama thread, I used your own words against you; you pathetically accused me of plagiarism.
Now you do exactly the same: should I accuse you of plagiarism or are you too scared of consistency?



EDIT: Damn! I keep falling into 'arguing' with you again.

Originally Posted by Godslayer Jillian

Don't you love it? You are a step behind me always.

Wrong; everyone knows Mowhawks are so 2002.

Originally Posted by Godslayer Jillian

In the Obama thread, I used your own words against you; you pathetically accused me of plagiarism.

I can't even remember what I wrote yesterday; is this really getting to you?

Originally Posted by Godslayer Jillian

Now you do exactly the same: should I accuse you of plagiarism or are you too scared of consistency?

Accuse me all you like; you're still an irrelevant, tryhard, pseudointellectual, aspiring failure.

What difference will it make?

[JCC]

Social Darwinism cannot be proven or disproven objectively, since it is completely an analysis of the contemporary and has never laid claim to knowing the future. It should be noted that competition has in this society and its preceding years been the backbone of technological and social development despite however many inventors you want to pull out of a hat as having done it of their own accord: the general theme of society is "You want something, I want something a little better", because right now we're in a Capitalist system.

That doesn't mean that Social Darwinism will always be relevant or always be right. Contemporarily, it's at least a sensible theory.

Personally, I think that Social Darwinism as a symptom of these times is an abhorrent philosophy and its obsoletion is important to me. However, that doesn't disprove it, not that such a thing could ever be done.

[$haDe]

Originally Posted by Sir. Helpmann

PS - I'll stop throwing insults at you when you demonstrate a modicum of intelligence, rather than just babbling for the sake of it.

Is this how civilized people treat someone he felt lower than him?



This is why humanity can't develop much in the past few years.

I was always the one that stepped up to the bullies, got beaten and stepped up again. I can partly agree with Helpmann on this topic, I think that people that are bullied and don't even try and stick up for themselves are quite pathetic. If you don't help yourself, don't expect other people to try and help you.

[Draco_Sanguine]

After i got to highschool bullies generally avoided me. I wonder why >;]

[PinstripesAndPithHelmets]

Originally Posted by Sir. Helpmann

The stronger always has the right to carry through what he/she wills.

If you're too fucking weak to fight for yourself, I wont shed a single tear for you; you don't deserve any better in my opinion.

An interesting sentiment, and one I doubt you'd still be voicing if you were ever on the wrong end of a beat down.

The stronger may often do what he wants, when he can get away with it, but that in no way makes it right. I've been bullied, and also did a bit of bullying as well. Even though what little bullying I did was rather limited, I still wish I'd never done it. I don't regret fighting with the other bullies, but, in the end, claiming that simply because someone is stronger gives them the right to be a douchebag is idiotic.

[PinstripesAndPithHelmets]

Also, stop abusing the semicolon. If you can't use it correctly, don't use it at all. A period would've sufficed in almost all of the instances I've seen you use the damned thing. That goes for Jillian as well.

[Solumina]

The problem with social darwinism is that it attempts to derive an "ought to" statement from an "is" statement, which is at best faulty logic. Just because something occurs naturally that does not mean that it is the morally correct thing to do as social darwinism would lead you to believe.


As for the whole bully thing: I can't say that I was ever really bullied, nor do I ever recall being a bully. I saw a lot of bullying but I honestly don't recall being a part of it from either side.

[$haDe]

Originally Posted by Solumina

As for the whole bully thing: I can't say that I was ever really bullied, nor do I ever recall being a bully. I saw a lot of bullying but I honestly don't recall being a part of it from either side.

Well, there're 2 other sides.

Be an audience or ignored it.

Which one ?

[Solumina]

Most of the time I would try and step in, bullies tend to back of pretty quickly when an outside party steps in. It didn't hurt that I knew everyone in my middle and elementary schools so it really wasn't that hard to pull the bully aside and tell them to leave the kid alone, then again most kids knew each other pretty well and there really wasn't much bullying.

[$haDe]

Originally Posted by Solumina

Most of the time I would try and step in, bullies tend to back of pretty quickly when an outside party steps in. It didn't hurt that I knew everyone in my middle and elementary schools so it really wasn't that hard to pull the bully aside and tell them to leave the kid alone, then again most kids knew each other pretty well and there really wasn't much bullying.

That sounds like you, Solumina.

The only person I know that you offended is Unimatrix.


Honestly, you 'ARE' nice.

[Solumina]

Aww thank you

[Albert Mond]

Originally Posted by HellforgedX

Bullies suck. The game "Bully" is cool, though. The movie "Big Bully" starring Rick Moranis & Tom Arnold was horrible. Maybe that's just because Tom Arnold was in it. I don't know.
Anyhoo, why were you so gullible? Didn't you learn the first couple 'a times? Reminds me of the movie "Baseketball" - "If you guys call me Squeak 7 or 8 more times, I'm outta here!"
I don't know where I'm going with this. Bullies do suck, though.

Asperger's syndrome makes folks gullible.

[maromi12d3]

By Sir's argument stronger big men have the right to molest younger weaker boys and girls. LOL jk Sorry but Im not the greatest debater since Im only a stupid teenager and all but I clearly see your opinion is kind of flawed. :P

[Albert Mond]

Originally Posted by maromi12d3

By Sir's argument stronger big men have the right to molest younger weaker boys and girls. LOL jk Sorry but Im not the greatest debater since Im only a stupid teenager and all but I clearly see your opinion is kind of flawed. :P

You shouldn't have put "LOL jk" there, because you pretty much summed up what he said.

[Tam Li Hua]

Kids are mean. That's the long and short of it. Once you become an adult and you have more freedom, things become a lot easier, IMO.

[Underwater Ophelia]

Originally Posted by PinstripesAndPithHelmets

Also, stop abusing the semicolon.

Stop abusing the comma.