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11-19-2008, 08:04 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2008
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Racists pretty much universally suck.
Some people can self-filter what they are exposed to, others either get shocked or want to make a production of how offended they are.
I don't think there is anything morally questionable about calling someone out for being racist or spouting off ignorant trash. Pushing for censorship is lame though.
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11-19-2008, 08:16 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
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Despanan, don't worry, they are irrelevant. We are too far along on the path to conquest for any of their words or actions to interfere.
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11-19-2008, 09:04 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: El Paso, Texas/ Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua
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I know it's contradictory that I'm writing this post to sya what I'm going to say below, but:
Can we let this thread die?
It embarrasses me a little that the name of this thread is shown in the page that shows all the boards. It can be taken massively out of context.
In any case, there's no anti-semitism in Gnet. Otherwose one of the coolest members wouldn't be a Jew.
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Originally Posted by George Carlin
People who say they don’t care what people think are usually desperate to have people think they don’t care what people think.
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11-19-2008, 11:31 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Earth.
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Originally Posted by badteccy
That's the stupidest fucking thing I ever read.
(oh now, I'm sure I'll get an "out of the blue" IM after this)
Being a happy person doesn't make you ignorant or stupid. In fact, it's kinda dumb to just go around being angry all the time.
I mean, shit...if you are angry, whatev...we all have human emotions, but why not do something about your anger (maybe you do, I don't know your life) instead of just bitching and being moody?
I mean, I can't imagine being angry all the time would make anyone feel good.
Anyway, is life really that bad that you gotta be constantly angry?
Also, I'm not trying to have a huge argument so you can forget those balls.
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Congrats on totally missing the point.
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11-19-2008, 11:32 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Raxacoricofallapatorius
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I've got a solution to all this, "racism".
Ready?
Fucking IGNORE it.
Nobody cares what they think, however nobody cares what you think either. You've got the right to hate racists as much as they have the rights to BE racist. People are free to think whatever they wish, and you've got the right not to listen. Exercise it.
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Because before too long there'll be nothing left alive, not a creature on the land or sea, a bird in the sky. They'll be shot, harpooned, eaten, and hunted too much, vivisected by the clever men who prove that there's no such things as a fair world with live and let live. The Royal family go hunting, what an example to give to the people they lead and that don't include me, I've seen enough pain and torture of those who can't speak...
- Tough Shit, Mickey by Conflict
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03-21-2009, 05:43 PM
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#31
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Join Date: Mar 2009
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Despanan:
If you want to shut up the anti-semitism, you must also be prepared to shut yourself up as well. As soon as you condemn someone from speaking their mind, YOU automatically forfeit YOUR right to your freedom of speech - in a so-called "free society". Irrespective of what "western" society has taught/brainwashed YOU,
there is ALWAYS two (or MORE) sides to EVERY story...you cannot simply believe in only one side and ignore the rest, just because some BIASED idiot TELLS you that it is so!
I agree with Ophelia, it's not up to ANYONE to DICTATE (a la fascism) what people can and cannot say!
Furthermore, being a "Goth", is NOT about conforming to ANYTHING, especially when it comes to speaking YOUR mind...Thus, it seems paradoxical doesn't it? The anarchistic notion that a Goth can "say" anything he/she wants, and yet have a so-called "fellow-Goth" trying to shut up those Goths of a differing opinion....I just don't get it...Are YOU Goths FOR and AGAINST freedom of speech???
I think G.J. was right; this thread IS an embarrassment to Gnet... 
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03-21-2009, 05:56 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Earth
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I am shocked and disappointed to hear that there is anti-Semitism here at Gnet.
*sigh* That is really a shame. Racism is not nice. I like to treat everybody the same.
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03-21-2009, 06:13 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Athens, GA
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Originally Posted by hodgkins
I think G.J. was right; this thread IS an embarrassment to Gnet... |
And yet you revived it. Props to you!
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03-21-2009, 08:32 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2009
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Originally Posted by Pyre
And yet you revived it. Props to you!
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What, can no one revive an important issue on free speech?
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03-21-2009, 09:03 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2009
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Originally Posted by Pyre
And yet you revived it. Props to you!
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Furthermore, I don't see what the harm is in debating the issue further...You're not a "turkey cock" (Shakespeare, n.) are you?
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03-21-2009, 09:13 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2005
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Considering you don't know why Desp made this post in the first place would be a good reason not to necro old shit. At the time a guy made a very similar post about "Religious Intolerance On Gnet", because me and Desp made posts criticizing the Mormon practice of proxy baptism, and then the guy posted a video about how evil Jews are, so Desp made this one. Thats why Jillian said "Let this die before people take it out of context," so we let it die, and you dig it up and take it out of context anyway.
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03-21-2009, 09:39 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Athens, GA
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Originally Posted by hodgkins
What, can no one revive an important issue on free speech?
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Jillian's point was to let the thread die because of its embarrassment, and guess what? It did. Then you revive it many months later and yet state you agree with Jillian. It seems very contradictory on your part.
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"Don't ever let anybody teach you to think, Lance: it is the curse of the world." - King Arthur in T.H. White's The Once And Future King
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you" The Bible (Matthew 7:12)
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03-21-2009, 09:44 PM
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#38
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Join Date: Mar 2009
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Originally Posted by Saya
Considering you don't know why Desp made this post in the first place would be a good reason not to necro old shit. At the time a guy made a very similar post about "Religious Intolerance On Gnet", because me and Desp made posts criticizing the Mormon practice of proxy baptism, and then the guy posted a video about how evil Jews are, so Desp made this one. Thats why Jillian said "Let this die before people take it out of context," so we let it die, and you dig it up and take it out of context anyway.
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Um, I think I now EXACTLY why YOUR "hero" despanan made this post...It's to incite insurrection amongst Goths--News flash: it will NEVER happen! Goths are WAY too intelligent for that! B/C Goths==Anarchism All the fucking way!
I so don't know what the F*** you are talking about....I'm talking about freedom of speech...I don't care what religious background ppl have...although that would also make another interesting debate as to who has the right to say what ever online...(through a different "lens")
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03-21-2009, 09:51 PM
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#39
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Join Date: Mar 2009
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Originally Posted by Pyre
Jillian's point was to let the thread die because of its embarrassment, and guess what? It did. Then you revive it many months later and yet state you agree with Jillian. It seems very contradictory on your part.
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you're totally confusing the point...I agree with Jillian but did NOT agree with Despanan's point...I don't know why you are making such a big deal out of this...I want to encourage debate on freedom of speech, which is what YOUR hero Despanan wants to preach but with limitations-- of which, I would argue, is totally unacceptable to Goths..and also to You- though YOU will never admit it --at least not on this board....probably because you are afraid of losing your online friends...
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03-21-2009, 09:51 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Athens, GA
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Originally Posted by hodgkins
Um, I think I now EXACTLY why YOUR "hero" despanan made this post...It's to incite insurrection amongst Goths--News flash: it will NEVER happen! Goths are WAY too intelligent for that! B/C Goths==Anarchism All the fucking way!
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I am glad we've established this guy is a troll. Let's move on.
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"Don't ever let anybody teach you to think, Lance: it is the curse of the world." - King Arthur in T.H. White's The Once And Future King
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you" The Bible (Matthew 7:12)
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03-21-2009, 10:00 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2009
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Originally Posted by Pyre
I am glad we've established this guy is a troll. Let's move on.
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Is that the best you can do??
Oh I see..When some one cannot possibly win an argument because they lack the cognitive facilities, they automatically establish the Other as a troll and do not want to take them on? I believe that Goths have ALOT more brains than Pyre...
Hence NEXT....
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03-21-2009, 10:07 PM
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#42
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 3,360
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I disagree. They are all comparable in terms of intelligence. Most of the intelligent one's on this board do not identify as goths, and just acknowledge that they have interests that overlap. i.e. music, literature.
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03-21-2009, 10:16 PM
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#43
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Join Date: Aug 2005
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Wow, someone with no post count, who just registered like today brought this thread out from the dead... why am I not shocked.
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03-21-2009, 10:16 PM
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#44
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Athens, GA
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Originally Posted by hodgkins
Is that the best you can do??
Oh I see..When some one cannot possibly win an argument because they lack the cognitive facilities, they automatically establish the Other as a troll and do not want to take them on? I believe that Goths have ALOT more brains than Pyre...
Hence NEXT....
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Oh well gee, in that case let me make some clarifications that you somehow could not comprehend.
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you're totally confusing the point...I agree with Jillian but did NOT agree with Despanan's point...I don't know why you are making such a big deal out of this...I want to encourage debate on freedom of speech, which is what YOUR hero Despanan wants to preach but with limitations-- of which, I would argue, is totally unacceptable to Goths..and also to You- though YOU will never admit it --at least not on this board....probably because you are afraid of losing your online friends...
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Did I mention Despanan at all? No. I clearly mentioned Jillian and Jillian only. Where do you get this idea that I am supporting Despanan and fighting for him when I made absolutely no mention of him or of the topic at hand? You actually accuse me of having weak cognitive abilities when you cannot even manage basic reading comprehension skills? I am disappointed in your failed argumentative capabilities.
So, who confused the point, exactly? My one and only point was that you agreed with Jillian, which you've clearly stated twice now, and yet you argue that I am supporting someone I never mentioned about a topic I never addressed.
Yes, you are a troll, that much is clear. You are here not to make constructive comments about anything on these boards, you did not make an introduction, you revived a controversial thread that died out and then agreed it should have (which is, as I will state again, contradictory), and then you do nothing but argue for argument's sake despite arguing with absolutely no one. No, this isn't an argument, this is my obligation to point out how flawed your one-man argument is.
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"Don't ever let anybody teach you to think, Lance: it is the curse of the world." - King Arthur in T.H. White's The Once And Future King
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you" The Bible (Matthew 7:12)
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03-21-2009, 10:18 PM
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#45
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Join Date: Mar 2009
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Originally Posted by Mir
Most of the intelligent one's on this board do not identify as goth
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Are you kidding me?? LMFAO!
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03-21-2009, 10:21 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2009
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Originally Posted by Pyre
Oh well gee, in that case let me make some clarifications that you somehow could not comprehend.
Did I mention Despanan at all? No. I clearly mentioned Jillian and Jillian only. Where do you get this idea that I am supporting Despanan and fighting for him when I made absolutely no mention of him or of the topic at hand? You actually accuse me of having weak cognitive abilities when you cannot even manage basic reading comprehension skills? I am disappointed in your failed argumentative capabilities.
So, who confused the point, exactly? My one and only point was that you agreed with Jillian, which you've clearly stated twice now, and yet you argue that I am supporting someone I never mentioned about a topic I never addressed.
Yes, you are a troll, that much is clear. You are here not to make constructive comments about anything on these boards, you did not make an introduction, you revived a controversial thread that died out and then agreed it should have (which is, as I will state again, contradictory), and then you do nothing but argue for argument's sake despite arguing with absolutely no one. No, this isn't an argument, this is my obligation to point out how flawed your one-man argument is.
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All the more reason why you cannot possibly win.....It is the postmodern condition that has got you by the balls...You talk nonsense, just give it up...
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03-21-2009, 10:25 PM
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#47
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 3,360
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Originally Posted by Joker_in_the_Pack
I've got a solution to all this, "racism".
Ready?
Fucking IGNORE it.
Nobody cares what they think, however nobody cares what you think either. You've got the right to hate racists as much as they have the rights to BE racist. People are free to think whatever they wish, and you've got the right not to listen. Exercise it.
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This thread should really have died with this post. Well put.
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03-21-2009, 10:25 PM
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#48
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 2,687
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As the supreme goth, I hereby declare this thread ended. Further discussion will only incite turmoil within the ranks of our esteemed brotherhood.
Anarchy all the way.
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03-21-2009, 10:28 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2009
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Originally Posted by Gothic.net
Wow, someone with no post count, who just registered like today brought this thread out from the dead... why am I not shocked.
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Gnet:
You are NOT shocked because YOU run a website that is openly accessible to ALL internet users, hence any one who has a beef with any of your members' opinions is "fair game"...I really don't know why you are even bothering to waste your time responding....LMFAO, but it's all GOOD!
I actually enjoy being entertained by the pretentious-self-righteous-know-it-all-Goths that inhabit your message board...Cheers, Gnet!! ***raises IMPORTED beer glass***
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03-22-2009, 02:37 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 271
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Originally Posted by hodgkins
Gnet:
You are NOT shocked because YOU run a website that is openly accessible to ALL internet users, hence any one who has a beef with any of your members' opinions is "fair game"...I really don't know why you are even bothering to waste your time responding....LMFAO, but it's all GOOD!
I actually enjoy being entertained by the pretentious-self-righteous-know-it-all-Goths that inhabit your message board...Cheers, Gnet!! ***raises IMPORTED beer glass***
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In your own words:
Are you kidding me?? LMFAO!
and with that, I bow this one to the supreme Goth of the day, gothicusmaximus. Thread closed.
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