Gothic Discrimination in School - Page 9

BlueMoon · 11-09-2005, 09:24 PM

I don't think any school in Iceland has a dresscode.... not the ones I went to anyway.
elementary and Highscool are bound together as one school (1st-10th grade), I changed schools 5 times during those 10 years and college I changed 3 times. I could always wear what ever I wanted...everyone could.
Only comment I ever heard about was a teacher asking my sister to button up cause her cleavege was distracting him.

BlueMoon · 11-10-2005, 06:32 AM

.... seems they're bit touchy in your schools.......

She was wearing practically nothing.

In Sweden he would propably be in jail now, teachers can't even raise their voices at the kids and it's called abuse....tsk tsk

Well, Icelanders tend to be rater laid back and easy going. It's more like "I don't care" rather than "I respect your choice".
Allthough Gay-pride parade IS one of the biggest and most popular events here

You can find Discrimination here, we have idiots too, but against goths... you'd have too look for it.

Saturnine · 11-10-2005, 01:39 PM

to sakred_winter -

oh, i haven't changed anything at all. and my 'rents are so in on it and half the school (even some of those "too cool to talk to *you*" types) and they are so pissed. this year so far it hasn't been to bad, but i do get the evil eye from quite a few teachers. im trying to just no provoke anyone becuase here the school board doesn't care. we called them last year and they said we had no case, the school decides the dress code and if i was violating it, i had no beef with them. they would have to side with the school. i was like *gaping mouth look*.

becuase you cant make a dress code, and say someone itsn't following it, when they clearly arent infracting on any rule in the book.

my favourite part of all this is that they were considering banning the students from wearing just black. and now i wear neon colours and i get in shit. but if i wear all black, i'll still get in shit. unless it's "classy". uhmm... yeah, who are you to dictate style.

people aren't like, typeface, we dont come from one same little pattern. it makes me mad how society is all be yourself, and at the same time, buy this, wear this, eat these to be cool like this famous sellingout slut here. Gah.

Killer_Chihuahua77 · 11-11-2005, 12:56 AM

sometimes all it takes is a page change to switch the entire mood and direction of a forum... amazing isn't it?

edible_eye · 11-11-2005, 01:00 AM

true. it's like collective a.d.d.

Killer_Chihuahua77 · 11-11-2005, 01:00 AM

Small words of advice from someone whos been there. The sooner you move on, the quicker you will find a job, get on your feet as an individual, and no longer have to worry about the opionions of others. As we say in the army, when you're on duty, you wear your uniform and wear it well. But off duty, we don't give a FUCK what you do or wear. So heres my suggestion, do as expected, dress as expected, act as expected, then when you go out to party do whatever the FUCK you want, Live how you want, and act how YOU want. On duty, its not your call until you are over the age of 18 and can make your own decisions under the law.

Killer_Chihuahua77 · 11-11-2005, 01:09 AM

Also, Sakred...

Why all the lawsuits? First narzy and his compatriot whoever and now suggesting other people sue? What is that going to solve? Even if they win the lawsuit then the school is just going to lose money, forcing them to spend less money on education and more on paying off their court costs. And if they lose then they have lost a substantial ammount on lawyer expenses, and unless they have authorization to get a JAG lawyer thats gonna be a hefty fee of at least 8,000 dollars for a mediocre trial lawyer. Also, if the trend continues then thats going to coninually degrade the quality of education in that school system until they may be selling off text books to cover expenses. I'm serious, don't laugh i've seen this happen before. Remember when Sexual Harrasment was a big thing? over 30 schools were no longer financially solvent until people finally got their wits about themselves and stopped assaulting the schools for pointless and self centered crap. If theres an issue with a teacher then deal with it there, at that level. But for the sake of the kids that we fight to protect on a daily basis please don't go after the school. Hell, it might be my kid that has fewer teachers and less educational equipment because someone just had to sue because they felt discriminated against. Lawsuits just cause problems for everyone, and are not worth the trouble they incite.

Saturnine · 11-11-2005, 01:04 PM

nobody around here can afford a good lawyer, especcially not me, so i doubt i'll be sueing anyone over anything. sometimes though, a lawsuit really is the best wya to make your case heard, and public.
although a lot of lawsiuts are over pointless trash...

meh, i haven't been in any real trouble latelly, so i think i will continue on my spree of being an individual. just sometimes, its ridiculous. i dont know if im just niave or what but i really do feel singled out when im the one in trouble. nobody else seems to get into trouble for clothing, and when they do it isnt all over the school. but the second i am in trouble, the entire faculty is talking about it and the kids are all talking about it and its like, jeez leave me alone. gah.

Sakred_Winter · 11-12-2005, 01:49 PM

I haven't been thinking about suing the school for a while. But Jake, will. I never done anything to attack him. Not once. And he tries to ruin how happy I finally am just because he's pissed off. He needs to grow up.
I don't mean to get nasty, but it's the truth. I was a little worked up from all the shit. But I've actually gotten the net back and school is being cool about everything. That I agree would be a most bad idea. A lawsuit would deffinetly benefit me and my family.
He's always had alot of money, an only child and got an inheritance from daddy. He always made fun of me for shopping at Wal-Mart and the dollar store. And always had this disgunstingly cocky additude. But I was blinded by love. ;-) I made up for it though.

lizzy · 11-12-2005, 06:51 PM

i don't think that is right at all. i'm a freshman and i would follow it, but i would wear whatever off campus.

talon · 11-14-2005, 05:23 AM

I get shit from one of my teachers at school for wearing my pentacle. she says "I don't preach my religion to you so don't do the same to me.". I'm currently in 4th term now. last term the school had an assembly to say "We are going to be cracking down on people not wearing uniform." Absolutely nothing happened. This term they say it again and only the two deans say anything about.

If they really cared about it there would be more people in detention than 6 including myself. I can walk into my school late, when nobody but the people running stuff are out and still find people out of uniform. If I walk past my dean she'll ask me where is my uniform and I'd get a detention no matter the explanation (even though I just tell her it's in the wash). But at the same time she walks past many other people out of it.

Our uniform is white shirt and blue shorts/pants. If we where a jumper it's to be blue. The only reason she notices me is because I wear black. Apart from all the other sluts walking around in the same thing every day.

At our school we specialize in PA. Most of the people in the PA class are punks and sluts. They walk around in tight black pants and all these bits dangling off. Absolutely nothing said.

I think I should take sakred's advice and find out the exact ruling, because as far as I know, it's only us that listen to metal.

It's nice to know there is some people that i can relate to.

CptSternn · 11-14-2005, 11:42 AM

The problem is not that they dis-allow gothic attire, is the issue of allowing other attire.

I agree fully with the 'while at werk' statement, but make it equal. In Ireland, like most of Europe, we have school uniforms. All are the same, with small color differences for the classes. Thats it. Everyone buys them at the same shops, they are all the same. No excessive jewlery, no changing of the uniform, etc.

However if they said uniforms, or say blue jeans and t-shirts with certain designs, thats when your discriminating. Make it a uniform for all, or make it free for all, well within legal parameters (ie no nekkid kidz or kidz in short skirts with no undies). Basic common sense.

But to say you can be whatever you want, provided you stay within the lines we tell you is nothing less than censorship.

MrMaelstrom · 11-14-2005, 11:54 AM

Welcome back. Long time, no see...

CptSternn · 11-15-2005, 08:33 AM

Yeah, was barred since I said I was going to stiff Al, he whines like a girl.

Besides, they couldn't beat any of my arguments, so they decided to say I was a threat to the boards and have my account locked. Feck it. Was incarcerated most of the time anyhow, so I didn't miss much.

Looking forward to coming to HorrorCon San Fran and getting a chance to meet people in person and then we can work it out face to face.

Slán gó foíl

MrMaelstrom · 11-15-2005, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by CptSternn

Yeah, was barred since I said I was going to stiff Al, he whines like a girl....

...Looking forward to coming to HorrorCon San Fran and getting a chance to meet people in person and then we can work it out face to face.

You were gonna do what to Al?
Sounds sexual to me, that's why I'm asking

But if you guys work things out face to face, I'd like some pictures taken. I'd also like to know the respective weight and height of both so I can start calculating the odds, so I can make a decent bet on the winner.

So, you want the blue or the red corner? Hang on, you seem to be doing the invitation, so Al gets to chose his corner.

Take a few breaths guys...

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AlKilyu · 11-15-2005, 11:22 AM

Whines like a girl? I've read stuff you've written to people off this site. You want to talk whining? Dude, it's sad how you'd get on here and talk all tough then BEG to be a moderator so you could go after us (us being Binkie and I) but that didn't work out for you, did it?

Then I made a crack about how you only hung out in the Politics section, not contributing otherwise, so you did that and THAT was a failure.

So you crawled back into Politics, and in a moment where your frustration just came to a boil, when you couldn't argue your way anymore, you made a threat.

And it wasn't I that complained or had you banned, but someone did and Darren saw fit to do so. I thought it was funny, but they saw fit to bounce your angry ass outta here.

So now you return, and still retain that angst we so wonderfully filled you with, and you still are so pissed you want to take it offsite, more proof we won.

Considering that "talking" to me is less time you could be wiring bombs that might maime and kill innocent people, I'm down. It's on like Donkey Kong.

secretboy · 11-15-2005, 11:57 AM

Well, I'm happy that at least someone else is going to be at World Horror Con 2006 in San Francisco.

I take my joy where I can, you see.

MrMaelstrom · 11-17-2005, 12:36 PM

Hey Secret, seen as your Location shows you at my house, could you clean up my bedroom, please?

Use surgical gloves for your own protection, ok?

DarkWings666 · 11-24-2005, 09:27 AM

my high school had a uniform, and a really strictly enforced one at that. the only time i had a problem then was when i got busted for wearing too much eyeliner and got told to take it off, but as it was against the school rules i figured that they weren't discriminating-despite the fact that most of the girls in my class were obviously caked with make up. huh hum..........

anyway now i'm at college i don't have to wear a uniform but they do reserve the right to send home anyone they feel is dressed inappropriately (by that they mean like a whore) but because i dress in long skirts and high-cut tops they've never spoken to me about it.

i beat them by playing by thier rules!

CptSternn · 11-27-2005, 07:52 PM

Fight athoritative british rule!

lollypop17 · 11-30-2005, 05:43 AM

Ok. i'm not whinning so no one start that but why is it that people aren't allowed to have face piercings in school. I mean i just pierced my lip the day before yesterday and yesterday i got in trouble and the princible told me i had to take it out because i wasn't supposed to have it in. That's like taking away my right to exspress who i am. I don't understand how i can't walk around with a lip ring in my lip, but all these little preps can walk around showing off their bellys and shit like that, and boys can walk around showing off their butts but i can't show off my new lip ring. I think its stupid and we should have to take out out face piercings. But what ever i just thought i would find out if my school was the only school like this or if schools in other areas was like that. Well give me some feed back and let me know how you guys feel.

gothic king · 11-30-2005, 09:18 AM

all my clothes are gothic. in oregon they baned gothic clothing and I got mad and went to school naked and I got xpeld from all public school in the U.S. I also got 6 months in juvie. I bet ill do it again if they ban my clothe again

lollypop17 · 12-02-2005, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Xnguela

My feedback? I'm pretty sure there's something about this in "Fashion", where high schoolers can bitch about how unfair it is that they're getting a free education and can't show off their body modifications.

Ok first of all, My lip ring is not a fashion statement. I'm not saying this stuff to say anything about a fasion statement in school. I'm mad because people cant have facial piercings in school. Not because it's a fashion statement.

rockandrose · 12-02-2005, 06:32 AM

Hence, my signature is 10x larger than everyone's signature in this forum and I still claim that such and such is not a "fashion statement".

Lame hypocritical comments can be so funny.

lollypop17 · 12-02-2005, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by rockandrose

Hence, my signature is 10x larger than everyone's signature in this forum and I still claim that such and such is not a "fashion statement".

Lame hypocritical comments can be so funny.

Yeah just like yours are funny. Ha Ha H- Whats funny is no one else is laughing...