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Old 09-21-2009, 02:08 PM   #251
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Yeah, that really excuses the comments you made.
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There is no need to "excuse" my comments in the first place you dumbass!
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Old 09-21-2009, 02:10 PM   #253
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I LIVE in fucking DALLAS TEXAS, Home of the the most Ghetto of the Ghetto!

And half my family is Asian, and I work with nothing but Asians.
I'm unsure which part of this is more retarded: the fact that you think most black people only live in the ghetto or the fact that you think all the black and asian people of the world live in Dallas.
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Old 09-21-2009, 02:13 PM   #254
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I'm not saying that all black people live in dallas, or the ghetto. You're retarded for even assuming that I would consider that. I've been to many states okay. And in every state I've gone to. I've seen those gangsta wannabes or actual gangsters...who I positively cannot stand.
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Old 09-21-2009, 02:15 PM   #255
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Old 09-21-2009, 02:16 PM   #256
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That passage was not talking about infanticide!!!
Smashing Babylonian babies against rocks actually does kill them, you know.


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LOL seriously??? I don't know that the Old testament was written way before the New??? Yes I do know about Judaism and I know that it only follows the OT. BUT as far as the WHOLE bible goes. The old testament contains tons of prophecies of Jesus in Micah, Psalms, and especially in Isaiah...which all leads to the birth of Christ who came from the line of fucking Abraham in Genesis.
But it doesn't name him as Jesus or give the New Testament any validation, fancy that a lot of people don't think Jesus was the messiah.


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You don't say.... Since apparently I'm SO "against" homosexuality right?
You haven't said anything against it yet but what I'm saying is that killing homosexual men is pretty fucking brutal no matter what the fucking context.

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The bible also allows divorce and alimony. And the only reason why it includes Christians and Jews is because it was written way after the old and new testaments. But just because it includes texts mentioning them how does that make it "forgiving"?
The BIble allowed divorce (sometimes) in the Old Testament but revoked that right in the second, by Jesus Himself:

Matthew 19:7 "7 They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away? 8 He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so. 9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery. "

“Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.” (Matthew 19:6)

And its more "forgiving" because Christians do not allow salvation through anyone but Jesus, so Jews and everyone else goes to hell.

2:62 "Surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the Christians, and the Sabians, whoever believes in Allah and the Last day and does good, they shall have their reward from their Lord, and there is no fear for them, nor shall they grieve."
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Old 09-21-2009, 02:16 PM   #257
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I'm not saying that all black people live in dallas, or the ghetto. You're retarded for even assuming that I would consider that. I've been to many states okay. And in every state I've gone to. I've seen those gangsta wannabes or actual gangsters...who I positively cannot stand.
You obviously don't understand what implications are, or you don't even know what you're writing. You said "I don't like most black and asian people". I said that you haven't met most black and asian people so this is impossible. You then said that you lived in dallas, home of the ghetto, implying that this proves that you have met most black people because you live in dallas/in the ghetto.

What part of that is confusing you? Why can't you say you hate wannabe or actual gangsters instead of putting all black people in this category?
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Old 09-21-2009, 02:24 PM   #258
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Old 09-21-2009, 02:24 PM   #259
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What part of that is confusing you? Why can't you say you hate wannabe or actual gangsters instead of putting all black people in this category?

Almost ALL of the black people that I have ever met are Ghetto.



Do you personally get along with most black people? Do you really truly want to hang out with one of those girls that you accidentally bump into while at school and they start yelling "im gonna bust yo' ass, why you be doin that shit? cuz i'm black??" Well THATS how the majority of black girls are here. And that's why I don't like "MOST" black people. Everyone keeps forgetting that "most" word.
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Old 09-21-2009, 02:24 PM   #260
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The context of this is the Babylonian captivity. The guy who wrote this was speaking about the captors tormenting the people of God. Not about taking your baby and bashing they're head against rocks.
What skillful use of google! Yes, this passage does pertain to the Babylonian captors of the Jews. It is, quite explicitly, about how awesome it would be to kill their babies. As a Jew myself, I harbor no love for those who have hypothetically oppressed my people, but killing babies is never okay-- not even if you're hungry, xjin.

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As much as these verses are indeed brutal, in order to put them in perspective, you need to start by acknowledging that the Israelites had to be kept safe no matter what, the whole point of the bible was Jesus... God knew that it would be through the line of David that Jesus would come to the earth. These things had to happen in order for the new testament to come into play.
What, do you think the Koran is just a sequence of violent proclamations without context? The internal logic of scripture doesn't justify its 'brutality'-- your clippings from the Muslim holy text are framed by religious war.
Although this is barely worth noting, I feel compelled to point out that, while your excuse might vaguely apply to the excerpt from Corinthians, it certainly doesn't relate at all to Deuteronomy, which was written long before Jesus was even an idea.

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The God of the bible is against homosexuality, in the old testament there is a story about sodom and gomorrah, where everyone was literally living like life was nothing but a huge orgy, everyone was sleeping with eachother.
WHOA NO WAY, I'VE NEVER HEARD OF IT BEFORE. Why are you acting as if this somehow renders the Bible's bigotry acceptable?

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Like I said before I don't side with either religion. But Islam preaches basically the same exact things you mentioned from the bible. Except they don't have a new testament to counter act the insane madness of what was in the old testament. i.e. they still think the horrendous blood acts are acceptable and wanted by God or Allah.
You do realize that Islam recognizes the New Testament, right?
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Old 09-21-2009, 02:40 PM   #261
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gothicus seriously? you just had to get involved?
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Old 09-21-2009, 02:41 PM   #262
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Old 09-21-2009, 02:46 PM   #263
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gothicus seriously? you just had to get involved?
I wrote half of that post, started doing something else, then finished it up. I didn't realize that in the time I took to reply, everyone else would have already told you what a fucking idiot you are. Although I suppose hearing it twice can't hurt you.
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Old 09-21-2009, 02:47 PM   #264
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As much as these verses are indeed brutal, in order to put them in perspective, you need to start by acknowledging that the Israelites had to be kept safe no matter what, the whole point of the bible was Jesus... God knew that it would be through the line of David that Jesus would come to the earth. These things had to happen in order for the new testament to come into play.
I don't mean to start new beef since I've only been here a couple days, but as a person who spends a lot of time reading about history and anthropology, I'm calling bullshit.

You obviously know nothing about mesopatamian culture. The old testiment of the bible is just like every other religion to come out of mesopatamian culture- religion has always been used as a method of control and saying that something good is going to happen is just another way of allowing for the next king or whatever to take over. EVERYONE was the son of god or a messanger of god or chosen by god in the fertile cresent, in the same way that other cultures had the mandate of heaven, or simply said that kings were gods. I mean, just look at the story of Hammurabi- it's the same story as Moses, and both of them used their special relationship with god to justify their leadership.

The whole point of the bible was like keeping a journal to see what makes god angry and what makes him happy in a place with constant warfare over resources.
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Old 09-21-2009, 03:02 PM   #265
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AMEN SISTA!!

I was just thinking about starting a talk about religion on here earlier looks like yall beat me to the punch!

however black people are disgusting!
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Old 09-21-2009, 04:23 PM   #266
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Almost ALL of the black people that I have ever met are Ghetto.



Do you personally get along with most black people? Do you really truly want to hang out with one of those girls that you accidentally bump into while at school and they start yelling "im gonna bust yo' ass, why you be doin that shit? cuz i'm black??" Well THATS how the majority of black girls are here. And that's why I don't like "MOST" black people. Everyone keeps forgetting that "most" word.
No, we don't. The "most" word is what makes you a bigoted fuckwad. Even dead blind men would agree with me.
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Old 09-21-2009, 06:07 PM   #267
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LOL seriously??? I don't know that the Old testament was written way before the New??? Yes I do know about Judaism and I know that it only follows the OT. BUT as far as the WHOLE bible goes. The old testament contains tons of prophecies of Jesus in Micah, Psalms, and especially in Isaiah...which all leads to the birth of Christ who came from the line of fucking Abraham in Genesis.
What a bigoted thing to say.

Ask a Jew if the Jewish prophecies pointed out at Jesus. You'll be surprised.
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Old 09-21-2009, 07:54 PM   #268
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Hate speak is not acceptable and I'm sorry if you can't see how this is hate speak but if you keep it up you will end up with more than a warning.
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The majority of blacks I have met have bad manners,bad attitude, don’t know how to speak English right, don’t want to hear the truth, the guys spend too much time chasing women for sex and getting them pregnant,leaving the “girlfriend” having a butt load of children and they end up on welfare. The good blacks that I haven't met many of: get an education,fight for change,end up president (as much as I don't like obama at least he's a decent human), have better self esteem, don’t need rap/hip hop to influence they're lives,are understanding of other cultures,speak proper English and know other languages/diversities,etc. They have good manners, don’t “down-low”,use religion to oppress others. These are good black people that I happen to like and respect... Why can’t the bad blacks listen to the advice of good blacks?



THANKS SOLUMINA ^_^


If I had written this about Asians, No one would have given me crap.
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Old 09-21-2009, 08:06 PM   #269
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Old 09-21-2009, 08:20 PM   #270
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Duane, I'm tired and really don't feel like arguing at the moment.
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Old 09-21-2009, 09:05 PM   #271
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You DID write shit about asians!!
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I didn't write what everyone is making a big deal about...on Asians.
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why don't you just admin you're racist and we can all move on? I'll go first

I'm a racist

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Old 09-22-2009, 12:04 AM   #274
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True story about this scene:

Matthew Broderick actually looked at pictures of Jin before this scene, the rest was ad libed as a result of his reaction.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azjHKA5c-TE
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This thread is full of Bible related fail statements.
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