The New Thread About Nothing - Page 23

Saya · 10-30-2009, 10:13 PM

CANDY nom nom nom.

Ben Lahnger · 10-30-2009, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by homelitexl

never mind found out i had spilled battery acid on my pants at work is what did it

Battery acid?!? Crap! I would have been wishing it was flaming hot cheetos. Hope you're okay.

Raptor · 10-31-2009, 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Ben Lahnger

The danger of this virus is its heightened contagiousness, and that due to the sheer volume of people contracting it the virus will cause greater numbers of hospitalizations and deaths among the at risk population (the young, pregnant mothers and people with compromised immune systems.)

It's not time for Chicken Little to run around crying, "The sky is falling." On the other hand, it is time to get everyone to take this seriously, and do what they can to minimize their own risk.

I was only talking about comparative death rates between normal flu and swine flu in young adults - those normally more resistant to illness. Which is a difference but not necessarily a reason for it being any more deadly overall. That would depend more on a death rate over all ages and on how virulent the flu is, I think that's what you were talking about.

http://www.scientistlive.com/Europea...e_storm/22285/

There are many articles about this but as far as I'm aware it's not really supported by any data.

Sinjob · 10-31-2009, 03:54 PM

The fun has only begun!

Ben Lahnger · 11-01-2009, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Raptor

I was only talking about comparative death rates between normal flu and swine flu in young adults - those normally more resistant to illness. Which is a difference but not necessarily a reason for it being any more deadly overall. That would depend more on a death rate over all ages and on how virulent the flu is, I think that's what you were talking about.

http://www.scientistlive.com/Europea...e_storm/22285/

There are many articles about this but as far as I'm aware it's not really supported by any data.

Well, I don't recognize your source as one of the leading, credibile sources for that kind of information. That could be just because I've never heard of them. On the other hand, I did post a supporting link from a known, credible source:

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Originally Posted by Ben Lahnger

Between 1.8 million and 5.7 million Americans caught pandemic H1N1 influenza this spring, as many as 21,000 were hospitalized and perhaps 800 died, according to new estimates by researchers at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The estimates are necessary because many cases are not reported to public health authorities and the CDC stopped requiring laboratory confirmation of new cases because the labs were becoming overwhelmed.

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Again, when the worst-case projections estimate that as many as one third of the populace may contact a certain illness, speculation about how relatively deadly the disease may be become much less meaningful. The numbers of people who are hospitalized or killed by H1N1 are surpassing those caused by supposedly far more "deadly" flu viruses. And the flu season is just getting started.

Also, that comment at the end of my quote bears attention, as hopsital emergency rooms are beginning to be overwhelmed as well. And while some of that is due to people who are not genuinely sick with H1N1, the numbers are increasing at a rate that had one hospital administrator I saw interviewed on TV concerned about capacity and resources.

Ben Lahnger · 11-01-2009, 01:28 AM

On a completely unrelated note ...

This is the t-shirt I'm wearing later today! Yeah!

Sir Canvas Corpsey · 11-01-2009, 02:31 AM

Just finished using Google to see if I have Leprosy. The answer:

highly unlikely.

Thankyou Google!

I'm still getting these skin discolourations, pangs of minor pain and numbness investigated by a Doc sometime.

Still Jack · 11-01-2009, 03:40 AM

The Halloween party was the fucking shiznit. We ended up going to a disused farm and piled up a cart with straw and jumped from the second story into the straw. We had a barbecue, set fire to some stuff, got unfeasibly drunk and hat a tremendous amount of fun.

honeythorn · 11-01-2009, 01:17 PM

Whitby was good. Faith and the Muse were splendid. I attempted to lessen my mild-ish hydrophobia and made myself go on a little boat trip round the bay. Good stuff.

Raptor · 11-01-2009, 03:46 PM

This weekend has been great fun despite the large amount of time spent trying to get between places. Two awesome Halloween parties, a short DJ set, and generally lots of time spent with people I like and pizza.

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Originally Posted by Ben Lahnger

Well, I don't recognize your source as one of the leading, credibile sources for that kind of information. That could be just because I've never heard of them. On the other hand, I did post a supporting link from a known, credible source

They both link to peer reviewed journals. I read the one yours linked to, mine links to a journal which isn't free. On yours the numbers hospitalized per 100000 are higher in predictions for the age groups that would include young adults compared to those that include the oldest people or youngest children, however they stated that their simulation method didn't take age into account very well and they broke the results down into very large age groups.

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Originally Posted by Ben Lahnger

speculation about how relatively deadly the disease may be become much less meaningful.

Not really. Relatively deadly in different age groups is what I said, and if it is indeed affecting those usually at less risk, and is due to immune systems overreacting then that affects the treatment given to them I believe. That and I find it interesting.

homelitexl · 11-01-2009, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben Lahnger

Battery acid?!? Crap! I would have been wishing it was flaming hot cheetos. Hope you're okay.

kinda dr said odds are im sterile and wont ever get an erection again

Ben Lahnger · 11-01-2009, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Raptor

Not really. Relatively deadly in different age groups is what I said, and if it is indeed affecting those usually at less risk, and is due to immune systems overreacting then that affects the treatment given to them I believe. That and I find it interesting.

Well, they say ignorance is bliss. So, I hope you're happy.

Delkaetre · 11-01-2009, 10:10 PM

I must remember not to go to AntiChrist again. While it picked up later in the night, the club was still a mess.
The couples' room was right next to the Noise-Industrial Arena, so there was no chance of being able to whisper something to your lover. Random individuals got in from time to time as well, despite someone on door being there for the sole reason of making sure it was couples only.
The chillout area was nearly as loud as all the rest of the club, so actually chilling out was a little bit inhibited. A chillout area is traditionally a place to sit down, have a drink, chat to your friends and regroup before heading for more fun. Not easy in this one.
The "goth" area sounded exactly like the noise-industrial area. I thought I heard some Nephilim around 11pm, but nothing remotely close after that.
The smoking area was roped off into a tiny enclosure- moving the cordon back just a short way would have doubled the available space.
I did like the dungeon's one-in-one-out policy, to prevent crowding and give players space to swing a flogger. I noticed that a great many of those present were not playing- it was the quietest room short of going out into the 2am chill to get some peace. There was a good range of furniture, and Dungeon Monitors were on hand to make sure that no one did anything stupid or hogged the furniture for too long if lots of people were waiting.
The club advertised itself as goth, industrial and fetish, with a large chillout area and six different feature rooms. What it appeared to be was Slimelight with some latex and halloween costumes jammed in.
But I have learned, and will not be going to AntiChrist again.

Didn't get to see Faith And The Muse on Sunday night, as they didn't arrive till half an hour before I had to leave, and hadn't finished setting up by the time I *had* to leave or miss my last train home. I'm not sure how it can possibly take more than twelve hours to get from Yorkshire to London unless you're travelling by mobility scooter. But the promoter was very kind and understanding, and gave me a full refund. Totally not her fault that the band was late, but I am very grateful for the refund.

On a better note, we saw Colin, the zombie movie. It's really quite sweet and touching in its own strange way.

Still Jack · 11-02-2009, 12:39 AM

Yesterday night at Marco's party some twat bought me a full tank of gas to go on a beer hunt, because I was the only sober driver at the party. I win.

Raptor · 11-02-2009, 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Delkaetre

I must remember not to go to AntiChrist again. While it picked up later in the night, the club was still a mess.

Dead and Buried was on, would you be interested in the next one? There won't be any noise-industrial there, but nothing fetish either.

Stormtrooper of Death · 11-02-2009, 07:14 AM

Halloween party was very excellent this weekend, everybody looked great!

Hopefully going to the record store with some friends this next weekend!

honeythorn · 11-02-2009, 03:05 PM

I've worked fucking hard for this KitKat. All that walking the weekend and Arobics tonight. I can't rush it and just NOM, first there is the dipping in hot coffee and then the chocolate removal in ways that look distinctly like I am fellating the poor thing *laughs* Still nom though.

Delkaetre · 11-02-2009, 08:02 PM

Dead and Buried was the Saturday, AC was the Friday- Daz was working door both nights, and I swear I saw Cavey Nik and his latest female at AC. We'd been intending Vagabonds on Saturday rather than D&B, but the Gent was too tired to go out.

I think I just need to stop hoping for a blend of goth and fetish, because it's just not looking possible. I was only at AC because it was goth-fetish-industrial, otherwise I'd just have said fuckit and gone to one of the other events.

In terms of regular attendance at goth clubs, D&B clashes quite frequently with Vagabonds, or with times when I have no money. It's harder for me to get to than Vagabonds, the venue isn't as pretty, the bar isn't as well stocked, fewer of my friends go to it, and I really get the feeling that the patrons are looking at me with a Deathrockier-than-thou look.

That last bit possibly being my own brain asking "why isn't your hair all big and green and backcombed, hmm? Why aren't you in zombie makeup?" rather than any of the patrons doing it.

Ben Lahnger · 11-03-2009, 08:37 AM

Let's get this over with:

Raptor · 11-03-2009, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Delkaetre

Dead and Buried was the Saturday, AC was the Friday- Daz was working door both nights, and I swear I saw Cavey Nik and his latest female at AC. We'd been intending Vagabonds on Saturday rather than D&B, but the Gent was too tired to go out.

I think I just need to stop hoping for a blend of goth and fetish, because it's just not looking possible. I was only at AC because it was goth-fetish-industrial, otherwise I'd just have said fuckit and gone to one of the other events.

In terms of regular attendance at goth clubs, D&B clashes quite frequently with Vagabonds, or with times when I have no money. It's harder for me to get to than Vagabonds, the venue isn't as pretty, the bar isn't as well stocked, fewer of my friends go to it, and I really get the feeling that the patrons are looking at me with a Deathrockier-than-thou look.

That last bit possibly being my own brain asking "why isn't your hair all big and green and backcombed, hmm? Why aren't you in zombie makeup?" rather than any of the patrons doing it.

Ah I think I'm getting AC and TG mixed up. I think TG was on Saturday along with Dead and Buried.

I might have to look into Vagabonds at some point, I haven't really been to clubs in London besides D&B and Slimes. Yeah the bar is pretty small at D&B, though Nik is doing the second Happy Funeral Party soon and that has a different venue. I'm not sure what it's like there, I didn't make it to the last one. Most people there seem friendly, hopefully the big hair thing was just your imagination like you said.

vindicatedxjin · 11-03-2009, 03:26 PM

They opened up a sprouts right by my house and I"M SO EXCITED!!!

Pineapple_Juice · 11-03-2009, 03:28 PM

WANT CHICKEN in a BISCUIT! WHY? SO not VEGAN.

Hope I'm not preggerz.

vindicatedxjin · 11-03-2009, 03:28 PM

^_^ mmm that sounds good actually.... chick fila?

Pineapple_Juice · 11-03-2009, 03:35 PM

No not Chick-fil-A. It's a cracker called Chicken in a Biskit.

Best cracker ever.

vindicatedxjin · 11-03-2009, 03:39 PM

What the heck, I've never seen those in my life??? Must not sell them in the south 0.o