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View Poll Results: What is a "Goth" ? (Do the poll before you read, see if your opinion changes at all)
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Someone whom listens to hardcore death music
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Someone whom is consumed by thoughts of death and a morbid attitude
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6.82% |
Someone whom is exclusive and shy, often adorned in black contrasted with white
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2.27% |
A satanist or someone fixated upon evilistic rituals
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1.52% |
Someone in complete contrast to Christianity
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0.76% |
"Goth" is relative, and based upon each individual persons experiences and own perspectives
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74.24% |
My cats breath smells like catfood
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11-24-2003, 02:30 PM
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#26
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Dublin, California
Posts: 372
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Quote:
Originally Posted by secretboy
I bent my wookie.
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gotta love that random Simpsons quote...good 'ol Ralph...
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11-24-2003, 03:01 PM
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#27
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: In my head
Posts: 2
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*Random interjection*
The 1812 Overture was never meant to be translated to the cellphone. Individuals who believe otherwise are freely invited to fragment several dozen razor blades, stir them into a large quantity of tapioca, and administer by enema, retaining for no less than 2 hrs. For maximum effectiveness, follow immediately with epoxy.
*End interjection*
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11-24-2003, 03:45 PM
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#28
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: wales
Posts: 1
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its nice to see that educated peopel still live and that some one can ask the obvios question and not be shot down but seriosly drizzt. i think ive spoken to you before on hot mail and surely you should have already have found the sight which has the damn paper on it which disects the basic mob known as goths (to all but themselves who just accept it as a label) into its seperate sub types. come on I found it when i was 15 surely you should be able to?
beyond that ive always wondered about the christianity v goth deal and personaly i dont think it maters what you believe and truth to tell at the end of your life your either going ot be suprised happy or jsut to damn dead to be disapointed.
as for the hwole shouting at some one to see if thier a goth i know enough ppl who are most definately that who would knock my teeth out if i insulted them. but thats besides the point. the humour wasnt wasted
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12-11-2003, 12:07 PM
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#29
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: I own Pitseleh!!
Posts: 3,747
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goth
haha,wookie
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01-23-2004, 11:25 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: SC, USA
Posts: 5
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so, i figure w/ being new here also, i would sympathize w/ you a little... so here is a site (that I happened to stumble upon oneday, and recommend to anyone) that may clarify the specifics for you... www.religioustolerance.org specifically www.religioustolerance.org/goth.htm
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01-23-2004, 11:37 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Canada
Posts: 355
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that site was rather amusing, i really like those quotes at the beginning
ahh, to gaze upon the ignorence of the human race :twisted:
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01-24-2004, 10:01 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 324
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Daz
ahh, to gaze upon the ignorence of the human race :twisted:
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Always very amusing... listen to "Leave me Alone" by the Cruxshadows. It consists mostly of news broadcasts about the "dangers of the gothic movement" that have been recycled into the song.
I can't find the website that I'm trying to... I've heard someone say that goths "see beauty where others see ugliness and see ugliness where others see beauty."
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01-24-2004, 06:32 PM
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#33
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Canada
Posts: 355
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Asurai
I can't find the website that I'm trying to... I've heard someone say that goths "see beauty where others see ugliness and see ugliness where others see beauty."
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i like that
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01-24-2004, 07:19 PM
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#34
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Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: chicago, IL
Posts: 10
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i voted for the last one.
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01-26-2004, 12:33 PM
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#35
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: I own Pitseleh!!
Posts: 3,747
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goth
What is Goth?
Skinny Puppy=GOTH
Britney Spears=NOT GOTH(but many goth people would tie her down and stick foreign objects up her arse)
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01-26-2004, 07:29 PM
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#36
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Canada
Posts: 355
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Re: goth
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Originally Posted by WolfMoon
What is Goth?
Skinny Puppy=GOTH
Britney Spears=NOT GOTH(but many goth people would tie her down and stick foreign objects up her arse)
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hey, you peaked.. now what am i going to get you for your birthday??
well now that you've seen, tell me... do you think the frozen 2 L pop bottle was too much?? :twisted:
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01-30-2004, 02:10 PM
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#37
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: I own Pitseleh!!
Posts: 3,747
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Re: goth
Quote:
Originally Posted by Daz
Quote:
Originally Posted by WolfMoon
What is Goth?
Skinny Puppy=GOTH
Britney Spears=NOT GOTH(but many goth people would tie her down and stick foreign objects up her arse)
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hey, you peaked.. now what am i going to get you for your birthday??
well now that you've seen, tell me... do you think the frozen 2 L pop bottle was too much?? :twisted:
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Awww,damn!Just buy me a japanese slave girl...lol.Under 5' if possible.
The pop bottle's sliding right out.What were you thinking?All the blood's just acting as lube.... :evil:
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02-07-2004, 12:56 AM
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#38
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: SC, USA
Posts: 5
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Asurai
I've heard someone say that goths "see beauty where others see ugliness and see ugliness where others see beauty."
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Victor, my friends brother, who showed me "goth", explained it to me as just that...
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04-23-2004, 03:27 PM
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#39
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Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 15
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i wonder what the fuck my cat has been eating to get breath that smells like cat food?! :?
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05-21-2004, 10:18 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 1,051
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Dear Mr. President,
There are too many states nowadays. Please elimiate three. I am not a crackpot.
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-Cinema Strange
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05-22-2004, 12:05 AM
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: canoncity
Posts: 1
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goth to me is beeing a non refomest and expessing your feeling how ever you whish showing you passhins and most peopel dont see that. to me it not the black make up or the death music or even you belifs its the way i show other ppl feelings if there darker than the night sky or if ther a brite as the sun if you thank about it thats really why goths write poatry becase we want to experes our selfs in a way ppl will lison so its really our will to show feeling that no one els will experss so we do
...........thats what i feel goth is but you i could be wrong i dont no
P.S i know i cant spell so leave me a lone
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05-22-2004, 04:29 AM
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#42
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Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,242
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Being the mass of ADHD behaviour that I am, I skimmed through your entry, and sort of skipped through the rest.
This could be beneficial so that I provide an opinion uninfluenced by other people's, then I can read them and get new perspectives, so everyone wins.
"Goth" as far as I have really noted as of late, is a label that many people appear to generally desire to label themselves as because it's "rebellious" in their view, then there are those that do it simply because no other label seems to fit, others that are attracted to the culture, and others still that don't even label themselves, but instead acquired the label from those around them.
I supposed that my personal definition of a "goth" is a group so widely varied in views and beliefs that the only actual commonality among the group is the label itself. People will develop their own views on life and from stereotypes, labels, cliques, and groups which lead into a whole perception of such terminology. If you REALLY wanted to argue it, the true goths were some of the barbarian tribes around during the time before, around and after the collapse of the roman empire... but that's just me being an idiot.
To make a potentially lengthy response incredibly shorter (yes, this is short for me) a goth cannot have any set definition because that would require everyone to adhere to one label. So I guess I was a little wrong about the only thing they have in common being a label; I think that a lot of goths simply develop their own philosophies (however varied or eccentric) and apply them to how they live their lives.
And for future reference, not all goths listen to Marilyn Manson (and while I have some respect for his older music, I've slowly moved on to what I can only deem better music).
-Sean (An atheistic/agnostic/Buddhistic/person with his own basic philosophies developed in part through the influences of others and in part through introspective thought).
PS
I hope that this helped, even if it's just repetition of things people said before.
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02-16-2005, 07:57 PM
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#43
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 1,249
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I suppose since this thread popped up I will respond. Dis, that's the best definition of goth that I've ever heard. My whole thing about goth is as follows: There are some definite definitions such architechture (did I spell that right?), barbarians, and some literature. And some bands. I don't really have anything against calling certain things goth such as clothes because those things are inanimate objects. I never understood why people like trying to pigeonhole people into a certain label. Who the fuck cares what label you supposedly fit under? People like what they like and act how they act. Trying to slap on a label won't change that unless a person likes acting like a stereotype which I can't understand.
Another thing that annoys me is people are saying that goths can appreciate art and beauty. "Goths" aren't the only ones who can appreciate the beauty around us. Plenty of people can have morbid curiousities or understand plays. It annoys me when people seem to say that only a certain group of people can appreciate something. Plenty of people can have attributes that supposedly belong to a certain group. People are like an ocean. Trying to describe them using a label or stereotype is like scooping a handful of water out of the ocean. You may have a bit but there is so much more.
Sorry I just had to put my two cents. I hope this makes some sort of sense.
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02-17-2005, 01:23 PM
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#44
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 411
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jane13
Dear Mr. President,
There are too many states nowadays. Please elimiate three. I am not a crackpot.
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I live in a state of chaos, which is bordered on the north by a state of confusion, and on the south by a state of insanity. I love all three of them. I hope he doesn't eliminate them.
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03-03-2005, 09:34 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 411
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I myself am both a Christian and a goth, and I feel that you can be both. I used to think that you couldn't be both- that if you're a Christian you can't be a goth, but I've since become at peace with the fact that it is, in fact, possible. You oughta check out this site. www.christiangoth.com
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03-03-2005, 04:26 PM
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#46
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 411
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Well, Xnguela, I would suggest that you do some research, either at a library or online to see if there are any religions that seem to have beliefs that you agree with. Believe it or not, I was a Druid for awhile, because it reflected how I was feeling at a particular time in my life- and also because my ex-fiance was. He was a total dipshit who was at first okay with the fact that I was a Christian and then gradually made it clear that it wasn't. Glad he dumped me!
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03-03-2005, 10:04 PM
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#47
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 411
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Xnguela
I wish I had half the conviction that religious people do... I would much prefer to have something to believe in.
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If you're serious, you can check out Buddhism, as well. Not to proselytise, but it is a very logical belief system, allows for questioning, and is not in conflict with any other religion (at least as far as we're concerned, anyway).
At least, it works for me. I've always been of the type to question authority. Buddhism encourages this. 8)
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03-04-2005, 10:20 AM
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#48
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 1,249
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I agree with you Xng. If religion makes me people happy then let them believe in it. It's not hurting anyone unless you count something like the Crusades but that's a different situation.
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03-04-2005, 10:32 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 1,249
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Sometimes coincedental things can be funny such as driving by a church and having God Hates Us All playing but that was accidental. Pissing on a church doesn't prove anything except that you're being immature. There's no point to such an action. Go piss on some people instead.
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03-07-2005, 11:28 AM
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#50
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 411
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Yes, people who think being goth means you have to hate religious folks are definitely immature. That's why so much of the general public has the mistaken perception that we are all Satanists or that we hate God. I agree, Xnguela, about that friend of yours who peed on a church- that's stupid. Like you said, no one even saw her, so it lost a lot of shock value because of that.
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