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07-18-2011, 01:41 PM
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What bands or artists would you consider to be Gothic?
I did a search, and nothing similar came up, so here we go.
Whilst I'm well aware that truly Gothic music died quite some time ago, there are bands today that I know a lot of Goths listen to. Some I wouldn't consider Goth at all (Black Veil Brides? As if. Bunch of 80's hairmetal wannabes...).
So, I've come here to ask you, the people of Gothic.net, what bands or artists YOU would consider to be Gothic?
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07-26-2011, 04:58 PM
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That's because goth in general is just dead. Anyone who thinks or pursues otherwise is usually a hopeless manbaby you'll find working register at Tate's Comics.
Venting nonstop.
He's talking about the golden age of Bob Krane and Jack Kirby, cursing the sellout industry of now and how they continue bastardize and ruin something that was once authentic and grand, but long ago died out and the double killed by the plastic, polished revivals. All I see 'goth music' as now are just pathetic tryhards stuck in the past. Of course it's ironic because back in my doomed days my motto was GOTH FOREVER (quite original, right?) and I even went so far to write on myself and everywhere I went. All those compulsive chants were just creaking out of my denial that the subculture I'd once embraced and relished in was indeed a sold out, overdone, dead art.
In other words, MUSIC HAS MOVED ON AND WE ALL MUST EMBRACE THE MIGHTY WOMPS OF DUBSTEP.
RAVE NEXT FRIDAY, FOLKS! DRESS LIKE A TOOL AND YOU'RE ADMITTED FREE
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07-27-2011, 06:49 PM
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Goth is dead, long live Goth.
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07-27-2011, 06:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Grausamkeit
Goth is dead, long live Goth.
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Undead undead undead?
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07-27-2011, 07:14 PM
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Red velvet lines the black box....?
Not my original meaning, but I can dig that as well.
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07-29-2011, 09:51 PM
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I can't remember why Goth had ever been relevant or significant.
Punk seemed significant for a moment, but I kind of fail to see how Goth was ever important.
To the best of my recollection, I got in to goth at a young age because I felt alienated from my community. Ironically enough, I see how silly it was to play at being vampiric or some kind of dark tortured soul wearing black and kicking it with Bauhaus.
I think there's a different kind of thread in this post.
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08-01-2011, 03:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Grausamkeit
Goth is dead, long live Goth.
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Well said Grausamkeit !!!. 
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08-02-2011, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by AshleyO
I think there's a different kind of thread in this post.
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Chillingly profound.
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08-02-2011, 01:09 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2011
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There are so many sub-genres under the banner of "Goth" that at first glance, do not seem cohesively connected. Ordinarily, you wouldn't connect Bauhaus, Alien Sex Fiend, Sex Gang Children, Cruxshadows, Abney Park and Voltaire.
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09-08-2011, 05:40 AM
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Joy Division, The Sisters of Mercy, Bauhaus, Siouxsie and the Banshees. These are Gothic rock, and I don't really think anyone else is (I mean except rip off bands like the merry thoughts I guess).
And I guess the Cure, but I don't really like them so I'm gonna file them under gothic pop out of a sense of disdain for their weepyness.
And then there are bands like Alien Sex Fiend and Sex Gang Children I guess, which I'm going to call 'not quite the same thing'. I'm not sure they even count as music.
Fields of the nephilim and type o negative can go to hell for ruining a perfectly good genre, and I'm not sure I even care to know anything that came after them by name.
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09-08-2011, 05:46 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AshleyO
Punk seemed significant for a moment, but I kind of fail to see how Goth was ever important.
To the best of my recollection, I got in to goth at a young age because I felt alienated from my community. Ironically enough, I see how silly it was to play at being vampiric or some kind of dark tortured soul wearing black and kicking it with Bauhaus.
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Punk carried a political message, goth was apolitical, which to my mind makes it more important. "Minding not the times but the eternities" to paraphrase Schopenhauer.
Playing at being vampiric is silly yeah, but black is a perfectly valid choice of colour and Bauhaus made some very varied and interesting music with far more intellectual content than almost any other pop music I've come across, and not even in a disconnected way; the ideas are viscerally plugged into you in a way you wouldn't get seeing them dryly worded in a textbook.
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09-08-2011, 07:18 AM
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What are you, crazy? No FotN or TON?
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09-08-2011, 08:45 AM
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Yeah.. I dunno I've never been able to stand either band. I guess you could call them part of a "second wave" of gothic rock or whatever, but the 80's/90's bands have a different flavour to the 70's/80's bands, and it's not one that sits well on my pallette.
I realise I'm just calling whatever I like "gothic rock" here but I seriously think there had been a shift in the quality of music by that time.
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09-08-2011, 09:08 AM
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I'm just messing with you, dude. Personally, I can't stand the whole 'gothic metal' genre in general.
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09-08-2011, 10:02 AM
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I personally don't believe in the existence of the genre of "gothic metal". I think it's just metal heads who want to be goths without actually listen to goth music.
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09-08-2011, 09:57 PM
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Nobody mentions This Mortal Coil? Wow.
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09-09-2011, 04:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Grausamkeit
What are you, crazy? No FotN or TON?
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Everybody knows that the Neph and the Mish and TON make the world go round !!!.
Wolfie I`ll have that TON poster I told you about scanned later today for you !!!.
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09-17-2011, 12:07 PM
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Any band that still rips off The Sisters/Neph/Mish is goth. Everybody esle r teh poseurs. By the way, what the crap is TON?
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09-17-2011, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Doktor Haus
Any band that still rips off The Sisters/Neph/Mish is goth. Everybody esle r teh poseurs. By the way, what the crap is TON?
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Type O Negative, poseur! 
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09-17-2011, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Grausamkeit
Type O Negative, poseur! |
Oh, yeah. Poor Peter Steele, man... he died and stuff.
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09-17-2011, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Doktor Haus
Oh, yeah. Poor Peter Steele, man... he died and stuff.
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Heart attack at 50 years old... when I heard the news, I didn't know he was that old.
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09-17-2011, 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Kasdeja
Heart attack at 50 years old... when I heard the news, I didn't know he was that old.
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I imagine it was all the durgs and alchohol, and my god. That man had to be going through two lighters a day to achieve such an awesomely deep voice.
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03-20-2012, 04:24 AM
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Its hard to take this question seriously without being riddled with semantic debates.. Though, being a wired missionary of "Dark Indie", here's some favorite bands, some of which I've already posted in threads, which I consider to be in the umbrella genre of Dark Indie while having elements of Goth Rock or 80's revival.
O.Children
The New Division
The Horrors
DRAGONS
R O M A N C E
Gravenhurst
Rome
Light Asylum
The Soft Moon
Cold Cave
The New Division
The Exploding Boy
GENERAL DECAY
Craft Spells
Soft Kill
Kindest Lines
Frank (Just Frank)
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03-28-2012, 06:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Class-Punk
Its hard to take this question seriously without being riddled with semantic debates.. Though, being a wired missionary of "Dark Indie", here's some favorite bands, some of which I've already posted in threads, which I consider to be in the umbrella genre of Dark Indie while having elements of Goth Rock or 80's revival.
O.Children
The New Division
The Horrors
DRAGONS
R O M A N C E
Gravenhurst
Rome
Light Asylum
The Soft Moon
Cold Cave
The New Division
The Exploding Boy
GENERAL DECAY
Craft Spells
Soft Kill
Kindest Lines
Frank (Just Frank)
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Good stuff, will check these out.
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04-04-2012, 01:45 PM
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The Doors were once called 'gothic' rock. It's just a word to describe an atmosphere... those who legitimately tried to fit into a genre called 'Goth' wound up actually not as dark as some synthpop I've heard. I'd call some Pink Floyd releases gothic, and almost all of Tool. Johnny Cash, too. And you know who's really fucking gothic? Morbid Angel.
Personally, I prefer bands like Skeletal Family and Sex Gang Children to most darkwave bands, even though I listen to them, too. But as for new music? You're just gonna have to listen to whatever grooves you, man.
OH! One more thing. Look up Helena Beat, by Foster The People, and tell me what you think. I freaking love those guys(and I didn't think I would!).
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