Rant Thread II

[Renatus]

Originally Posted by Saya

What does that have to do with repeating the tired old joke that women are impossible and irrational?

If someone is having trouble with a specific category of something, it seems logical to find a joke relating to that category. Plenty of comedians do it, Garrison Keillor for one does it all the time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garrison_Keillor

In 2007, Keillor wrote a column that in part criticized "stereotypical" gay parents, who he said were "sardonic fellows with fussy hair who live in over-decorated apartments with a striped sofa and a small weird dog and who worship campy performers."[37] In response to the strong reactions of many readers, Keillor said
I live in a small world -- the world of entertainment, musicians, writers -- in which gayness is as common as having brown eyes .... And in that small world, we talk openly and we kid each other a lot. But in the larger world, gayness is controversial ... and so gay people feel besieged to some degree and rightly so .... My column spoke as we would speak in my small world, and it was read by people in the larger world and thus the misunderstanding. And for that, I am sorry. Gay people who set out to be parents can be just as good parents as anybody else, and they know that, and so do I. [38]

[Solumina]

You do realize that he is apologizing there, right? That means he realized that what he wrote was not appropriate for that medium and that audience.

[Renatus]

Originally Posted by Solumina

You do realize that he is apologizing there, right? That means he realized that what he wrote was not appropriate for that medium and that audience.

I understand that part, and for that I am sorry.

What I don't understand is why it isn't appropriate with this forum, seems like everyone jokes about everything here except for traumatic issues(which is perfectly reasonable). People here joke about religion inspite of religious members such as myself, and I don't mind since I know they mean no ill will towards me. I wouldn't mind if jokes about men were made here, I quite enjoy the red green show's comedy which covers a lot of jokes about men, they even end each episode with what they call the mans prayer "I'm a man, but I can change, if I have to, I guess".

This reminds me of the confusion I had when my mother used to say that she didn't like me watching the Simpsons because she felt it was offensive to men. My father on the other hand hasn't ever been much of a reference point for learning about comedy*insert strict german joke*.

[Solumina]

It isn't just that the joke isn't appropriate on this forum it is that to people like Saya and me that joke will be offensive in pretty much any setting.

[Solumina]

I am annoyed with my mother's boyfriend. Not because he did anything dickish or because he anything, he is actually a really nice guy, and not in the "Nice Guy" kind of way, he is genuinely very nice. He is just boring. It has kind of been bothering me since I met him but I figured that my mother has enough joie de vivre for the both of them and as long as she was happy then whatever.

I have now been pushed over to the "he is not good enough for her" side of the fence as she brought up the possibility of him being her date to my cousin's wedding and he responded with no enthusiasm what so ever. He literally said (in a flat tone) "that could be nice". Now if this were a normal wedding then I could understand the lack of excitement, I mean really if she is excited about it then you should fake a little, but this is no normal wedding. This will be an absolutely over the top traditional wedding in India (where the bride's family lives), how the hell can you not get excited about that? For fucks sake the bride's family is hosting pretty much all of us (god I hope so badly that I will be able to be included in that us, and I will hate the Navy forever if timing prevents me from being able to go), including meals prepared by their chef, so other than airfare it is a free week in India where you are guaranteed to stay in an amazing place and eat amazing food. You suck at life if you cannot be the least bit excited about that.

[Renatus]

Originally Posted by Solumina

It isn't just that the joke isn't appropriate on this forum it is that to people like Saya and me that joke will be offensive in pretty much any setting.

Hmm alright so comedy is basically as offensive as the possible audience might interpret it, that settles the issue of what jokes I should tell.

One thing I don't get is how South park can get away with such things with people still respecting them, I quite frankly took offense at their aspergers episode, and I know I'm far from the only one. It's not like there was some deeper meaning that they were trying to get at, or trying to laugh with aspergerians as opposed to at. It was them calling the existence of aspergers a bunch of crap, and pulling all the jokes out of their ass(in some cases literally) they could about it.

[Renatus]

Originally Posted by Solumina

eat amazing food. .

Eh my experiences with indian food haven't been that good, though to be fair they're rather rare, and when I hear about indian food choices I have no idea what to choose. I don't suppose you could give a few pointers about that.

[Saya]

Originally Posted by Renatus

I understand that part, and for that I am sorry.

What I don't understand is why it isn't appropriate with this forum, seems like everyone jokes about everything here except for traumatic issues(which is perfectly reasonable). People here joke about religion inspite of religious members such as myself, and I don't mind since I know they mean no ill will towards me. I wouldn't mind if jokes about men were made here, I quite enjoy the red green show's comedy which covers a lot of jokes about men, they even end each episode with what they call the mans prayer "I'm a man, but I can change, if I have to, I guess".

This reminds me of the confusion I had when my mother used to say that she didn't like me watching the Simpsons because she felt it was offensive to men. My father on the other hand hasn't ever been much of a reference point for learning about comedy*insert strict german joke*.

Cisgender heterosexual men aren't systemically oppressed by sexism, neither are many many religious people. Depending on the joke though, as gender stereotypes are just dumb anyway. If someone made an Islamophobic joke, I'd call them out on it. If someone made a black joke, it wouldn't fly either. Ableist jokes I dont' find funny either and I haven't watched South Park in years.

And I'm offended by the lack of originality more so than the joke, its just so so tiring to hear over and over and over that women are irritational and you should just humour them, and people who tell that kind of joke usually finds it funny because they believe it. Even women.

PS Solumina, I know exactly what you mean. I don't really care for Mom's boyfriend and she could do better, but I bite my tongue about it.

[Solumina]

Originally Posted by Renatus

Eh my experiences with indian food haven't been that good, though to be fair they're rather rare, and when I hear about indian food choices I have no idea what to choose. I don't suppose you could give a few pointers about that.

Most Indian food that is widely available in the US is kind of crap, I've only been to one Indian restaurant that was really good (well three restaurants but they are all owned by the same family) but every time I've had home made Indian food it has been amazing so you kind of need to know someone who can cook it or do it yourself.

If there is an Indian place near you that has good reviews but you don't know what to try it can be kind of intimidating as a lot of it isn't just unfamiliar techniques but also unfamiliar flavors. Naan is an Indian flat-bread that, when done right, is seriously one of the most amazing breads in the world due to the lovely bit of char it gets from being cooked in a tandoor, so even if there is nothing else the least bit appealing I'm happy to live off of naan.

BUT before I just start going on about my favorite Indian dishes: what kind of food do you like? What textures and flavors appeal to you? Indian food is very much regional (but with lots of mingling and crossovers) and there is a lot of variety to pick from.

[Saya]

There's an Indian place here that when you go, you got two options. That's it. Meat, or vegan, or gtfo. And its the most amazing food in the world.

[Solumina]

Originally Posted by Saya

PS Solumina, I know exactly what you mean. I don't really care for Mom's boyfriend and she could do better, but I bite my tongue about it.

Yeah, I'm just hoping that she is blinded by how exciting it is to be dating (as this is her first boyfriend since my dad died) and that once that excitement wears off she will realize on her own that this guy just isn't on her level.

[Solumina]

Originally Posted by Saya

There's an Indian place here that when you go, you got two options. That's it. Meat, or vegan, or gtfo. And its the most amazing food in the world.

Do they just kind of make whatever they feel like making/bought ingredients for that day? That sounds kind of awesome.

[Saya]

Oh yeah, its never the same thing day after day. So when you go its kind of a surprise.

[Solumina]

Nice, wonderful things happen when a chef is allowed to have fun.

[Renatus]

Originally Posted by Solumina

Naan is an Indian flat-bread that, when done right, is seriously one of the most amazing breads in the world due to the lovely bit of char it gets from being cooked in a tandoor, so even if there is nothing else the least bit appealing I'm happy to live off of naan.

BUT before I just start going on about my favorite Indian dishes: what kind of food do you like? What textures and flavors appeal to you? Indian food is very much regional (but with lots of mingling and crossovers) and there is a lot of variety to pick from.

OOh I've been trying to remember for years what the indian bread was called, I remember seeing it made as a little kid on tv, it always looked quite interesting and tasty to me. The only problem is I haven't heard of a single place that actually makes and serves it, and since my experiences with indian food haven't been that great it hasn't really come up in my mind enough for me to remember to look it up.

I've always been fond of trying new foods, I'm not a vegan though and quite whole heatedly enjoy meat, but judging by the indian beliefs I think expecting beef is out of the question. For a point of reference however, the last time I had something I would consider non american cuisine I was having a gyro with some sort of lettuce cheese mix and hummus. I'm wasn't the biggest fan of hummus beforehand, so it just shows that I'll eat anything if it's matched well. In my mind the indian variety of spices sounds more like chemistry(which of course it is technecally), than selecting paints for making a masterpiece, and I don't want to spend all day trying different combinations like some sort of food rubix cube. Well I wouldn't mind trying different combinations all day its just I'm constrained by not being able to afford to spend all day in a restaurant/my stomach can't handle non stop eating.

As for cooking things myself, I have been experimenting more and more, not sure if I'm ready to cook indian food yet though. I've even been trying to make my own versions of fast food, such as Taco bell's grilled stuffed burrito except with higher quality/healthier ingredients, so far I've got the special sauce down. Not to mention when I did make it, the portioning went very well since I had more than enough to feed me for days.

[Renatus]

Originally Posted by Saya

Oh yeah, its never the same thing day after day. So when you go its kind of a surprise.

That does sound fun,

[Saya]

I just discovered that red envelope thing near threads you post in, and apparently I have 548 posts in this thead. Fuck!

[Solumina]

I have 500 even.

Haha you're a bigger whiner than I am.

[Saya]

Or maybe I console people more than you!

[Haejin]

how did i never know about that red envelope?!?

[Solumina]

I don't know but I have kind of become obsessed with it.

[honeythorn]

Renatus, you seriously need to come here. Very close to where i live is a small town called lye, which is pretty much made up of one long high street containing at least ( off the top of my head) 15 indian restaurants and takeaways. It,s the main hub of the local indian/pakistani/bangladeshi community round here.

[Victoria Lovecraft]

I can't draw today, I am deprived of caffeinated joy, I am having a bad hair day and I hate myself when I get whiny.
._.
Also I want some spicy peanut curry and naan after reading the last few posts.

[Apathy's_Child]

My mother is threatening to send my dick little brother to live with me to "straighten out". Fuck me if I could straighten out a paper clip right now. I'd just end up kicking his ass and giving him booze to stop him going out for coke and leave him a battered, bruised alcoholic who's STILL a dick, because I really cannot be assed to get into psychologizing his dickishness right now. I know I sound like an asshole, but I've sunk more time and energy into that kid than anyone, and until he actually WANTS to stop acting like a total cunt I don't see what everyone else expects me to do with him.

This is what happens in my family if you aren't married by 23: you become everybody's fucking babysitter, gossip dump, filler-in and general grunt. I'm set that I'm not fucking having this one right now, but I just know it's gonna cause drama if he pulls any more shit and my mother tries to kick him onto me.

[MissCheyenne]

My blood results were 'inconclusive', whatever the fuck that means so I have to have more blood drawn tomorrow so they can rush it through to the lab and get the results back for Wednesday morning. Yay fun.