Hey, guys...

[Versus]

I can't read so good. Can somebody tell me what this means?

Rule 404. Character Evidence; Crimes or Other Acts

(a) Character Evidence.

(1) Prohibited Uses. Evidence of a person’s character or character trait is not admissible to prove that on a particular occasion the person acted in accordance with the character or trait.

(2) Exceptions for a Defendant or Victim in a Criminal Case. The following exceptions apply in a criminal case:
(A) a defendant may offer evidence of the defendant’s pertinent trait, and if the evidence is admitted, the prosecutor may offer evidence to rebut it;
(B) subject to the limitations in Rule 412, a defendant may offer evidence of an alleged victim’s pertinent trait, and if the evidence is admitted, the prosecutor may:
(i) offer evidence to rebut it; and
(ii) offer evidence of the defendant’s same trait; and
(C) in a homicide case, the prosecutor may offer evidence of the alleged victim’s trait of peacefulness to rebut evidence that the victim was the first aggressor.

(3) Exceptions for a Witness. Evidence of a witness’s character may be admitted under Rules 607, 608, and 609.

(b) Crimes, Wrongs, or Other Acts.

(1) Prohibited Uses. Evidence of a crime, wrong, or other act is not admissible to prove a person’s character in order to show that on a particular occasion the person acted in accordance with the character.

(2) Permitted Uses; Notice in a Criminal Case. This evidence may be admissible for another purpose, such as proving motive, opportunity, intent, preparation, plan, knowledge, identity, absence of mistake, or lack of accident. On request by a defendant in a criminal case, the prosecutor must:
(A) provide reasonable notice of the general nature of any such evidence that the prosecutor intends to offer at trial; and
(B) do so before trial — or during trial if the court, for good cause, excuses lack of pretrial notice.

[Renatus]

I think this might just be a long way of saying, don't bring up past crimes or the defendant or victim's character unless it pertains to the case. I'm not entirely sure though,

[Versus]

But that's not what Sternn says. At my age, he was taking pre-law and learning how to read good instead of wasting his life going to Iraq and Afghanistan.

[MechaSaya]

Originally Posted by Versus

But that's not what Sternn says. At my age, he was taking pre-law and learning how to read good instead of wasting his life going to Iraq and Afghanistan.

Iraq and Afghanistan? Well, that explains why you have a tendency to skew and incorrectly grasp everything you read. I bet Sternn could dissect it all day.

Have you tried hooked on phonics, bro?

[Versus]

I should have listened to Senator Kerry! D:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLuMW...e_gdata_player

[Renatus]

Originally Posted by Versus

I should have listened to Senator Kerry! D:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLuMW...e_gdata_player

Are you sure he wasn't talking about president Bush?

[Versus]

Originally Posted by Renatus

Are you sure he wasn't talking about president Bush?

I must be bending what I read to meet my own views. D:

[Renatus]

Originally Posted by Versus

I must be bending what I read to meet my own views. D:

Maybe you were, maybe I was, idk I'm just considering another possibility of what he might have been referring to.

[Versus]

This is why I need to get a degree. I heard that you can dissect an article about the law's application of character evidence that's written in plain English ALL DAY with one.

[Fruitbat]

Are you in trouble V?

Just substitute other words for the legal stuff, it's easier to read that way.

[Renatus]

Frankly I rather miss the days when our politicians weren't all lawyers, and naturally as lawyers they're also extremely skilled liars. What happened to the day when a common man could be President? to the day when great generals lead not just armies but the whole nation. When a President if he got pissed off could duel the offender to the death(alright maybe that isn't a good thing). Seemed to me those days worked out pretty well, and our generals today all have to be quite skilled with politics. Not saying I would necessarily vote for such a president but I do wonder what happened.

[Versus]

Originally Posted by Fruitbat

Are you in trouble V?

Just substitute other words for the legal stuff, it's easier to read that way.

I don't even know what a synonym is! How am I supposed to do that?!

[Renatus]

Originally Posted by Versus

This is why I need to get a degree. I heard that you can dissect an article about the law's application of character evidence that's written in plain English ALL DAY with one.

It's oddly perversely funny actually, laws are supposed to be very specific and written out so they're not open to interpretation, but such openness is exactly what the lawmakers seem to be aiming for.

[Fruitbat]

Originally Posted by Versus

I don't even know what a synonym is! How am I supposed to do that?!

Ohhh.. come on V - you know I get confused with big words like synonym.

Is that a nym that sins?

[Murder.Of.Crows]

Originally Posted by Fruitbat

Ohhh.. come on V - you know I get confused with big words like synonym.

Is that a nym that sins?

NO. It's a type of spice you add to food for flavor.

[Versus]

Right over your heads.

[Fruitbat]

Originally Posted by Versus

Right over your heads.

And that's right where I like my men... right over my head.

[emeraldlonewoulf]

Are you going to law school when you get back to the states, Versus? Or have you already started? Good Luck.

I'd rather dissect a machine any day than tackle the syntax in law, but I think it means that a persons tendencies are allowed as evidence, but not as evidence regarding specific events, unless it a murder case, in which the victim's tendency toward peaceful behavior can be used as evidence that they did not instigate the dispute leading to their death at the hands of the person who is saying they didn't murder them because the victim started it first. Also, these tendencies or traits can be used to suggest/prove the "why" for a crime but not the how... or something to that effect?

Yeah, glad I'm an engineering major.

[Versus]

Originally Posted by emeraldlonewoulf

I'd rather dissect a machine any day than tackle the syntax in law, but I think it means that a persons tendencies are allowed as evidence, but not as evidence regarding specific events, unless it a murder case, in which the victim's tendency toward peaceful behavior can be used as evidence that they did not instigate the dispute leading to their death at the hands of the person who is saying they didn't murder them because the victim started it first. Also, these tendencies or traits can be used to suggest/prove the "why" for a crime but not the how... or something to that effect? .

I know what it means. I'm trolling because I made this thread in response to this:

Originally Posted by CptSternn

While you were shipping off to Afghanistan, at your age I was taking pre-law @ RU, which is where I got most of my degrees. I would love to stay here and dissect your skewed, incorrect, views of the US court system and it's contained doctrine, and I could all day, but this is a futile point as you clearly have no grasp of the material and are bending what you read to meet your own views.

If you want context for why Sternn is a moron, look at this.

https://www.gothic.net/boards/showthread.php?t=26084&page=3

[Jaye Jang]

Versus, Cpt. Sternn is an okay guy in his own right, but don't let him get to you, okay. He's just full of himself. (This whole thing kind of puts me in mind of a Reader's Digest article I read back in the Jurassic Era, where somebody had pulled the same stunt on a gentleman at a party, in this case rubbing his nose in the fact that they had a B.S. and a Ph.D. and all he had was a high school diploma. When some other poor schmuck asked him what a B.S. and a Ph.D. stood for, he quipped, "I guess it means his B.S. is piled higher and deeper"). I've always thought of that remark when somebody tries to "out rank" me, and then they can't figure out why I just walk off smiling.

[Versus]

Get fucked.

[MissCheyenne]

Yo Big V, allow me to tell you how you should feel and react to things. It's totally my place you know.

[Versus]

MC, I have such a boner for you sometimes.

[MissCheyenne]

I'm so flattered, I am merely a creeper in Saya's shadow.

[huzhi]

I am your slice of pie
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