What Are You Reading?

[Xombie]

A bunch of Flannery O'Connor shorts.

[Class-Punk]

I've been skimming the Vivekachudamani.

[Pineapple_Juice]

Sandman Slim. It's okay thusfar, nothing brilliant.

[Saya]

Columbine by Dave Cullen. Only a little ways in and already its making me realize that we still have huge assumptions about it.

[Saya]

I read The Contract With God trilogy by Will Eisner, it was pretty good. I gotta trust the Goodreads recommendations more.

I also read The Exorcist, was actually not scary. It was obscene, and I'm not for censorship or anything like that, but I notice a huge difference between how men write sexual violence and how women and everyone else writes sexual violence. Like I notice with men it feels more gratuitous, its shocking and gross but it also doesn't feel as horrible as it should be; in the Exorcist yeah the demon making Regan masturbate in front of everyone is gross and what I mean when I say obsence, and its truly the worst the book has to offer. But its gross for the spectator, Regan herself is totally unaffected, has no memory, is not traumatized, etc, it has nothing to do with her. The movie did include those scenes only it was way toned down and overall I think the movie is way scarier and way better.

Now reading A Tree Grows In Brooklyn.

[CuckooTuli]

Just finished the third volume of Sandman, by Neil Gaiman, and so far I'm just completely blown away. I've gotten a lot of enjoyment out of Neil's fiction, but perfect it ain't... this, though... it's without flaw. Fucking brilliant. I've been meaning to read it for years, and am just kicking myself for taking so long to get around to it.

[NKR]

The Taker By Alma Katsu.

The main character's thirst is something else.

[BourbonBoy]

Just finished "Ready Player One" by Ernest Cline and rather enjoyed it. Full of amusing moments if you get the 80's references plus it's a total gamer's story.

[Saya]

A Small Killing by Alan Moore. I think this might be my favourite thing by him.

[Fruitbat]

Shhh... don't tell anyone but I'm reading Why people hate america. I'd hate for it to get out that I occassionally reed books that arnt fiksion.

[HumanePain]

I had to quit reading Spinoza...he just doesn't click with me like the others.
I am skipping ahead to Hegel or maybe Kierkegaard. I think reading all of Nietzsche before any other philosopher (except Plato/Socrates) spoiled me and now others have a high standard to meet.

[Saya]

I can't say I've read a terrible amount of Kierkegaard, but I really liked his interpretation of the sacrifice of Isaac.

Read The Turn Of The Screw today while the power was gone, going to try to squeeze in The Kingdom Of God Is Within You before school readings overwhelm me.

[Jaye Jang]

"Eaters of the Dead," by Michael Crichton, again.

Got a kick out of the excerpt in the original version from Ibn Fadlan's description of the Vikings being 'as tall as trees, with legs and arms like tree trunks' and how they were swinging their 'gigantic' hand axes over their heads and about their 'terrifying' war yells and then he goes on to say, "...and that's just their women."

[Judas]

Nothing, right now. Trying to figure out what to read next. I'm thinking something sci-fi. Any suggestions?

[NapalmCow]

Last Exit to Brooklyn-Hubert Selby Jr.

[BourbonBoy]

The Untold History of the United States by Oliver Stone and Peter Kuznick. I'm only halfway through the second chapter and holy shit, there's a shitload that's not mentioned in high school classes.

[Fruitbat]

listening to the light.

[Saya]

Finished In Cold Blood last night. It was good, I got it mostly because I was getting sick of the unicorn book I was reading XD Too much whimsy, I needed to read something horrific. But seriously, good book. I like how it wasn't gratuitous when it came to the violence and didn't include pictures, just eyewitness testimony and then the confessions of the killers.

Reading Gaga Feminism: Sex, Gender, and the End of Normal now by J. Jack Halberstam. Not far into it but I'm glad the author is talking more of the idea of Gaga and not idolizing her or pretending she invented this.

[Saya]

Just finished Gaga Feminism. I don't know whether to recommend it or not. Like there's definitely great points made, but also really shitty points, and its not very coherent as to what being gaga feminist means, basically, don't be traditional in any aspect, don't get married, don't be religious, don't be normal in any way. Be childish and unpredictable. How is this accessible? How does gaga translate to the real world? I have to give it the same criticism Gender Trouble got, in that creating gender trouble still by and large isn't safe for a lot of people. As a white academically successful genderqueer, it might be safer for the author than a transwoman, especially a transwoman of colour.

And what's wrong for liking any kind of tradition whatsoever? Is lets say Solumina by being in an open marriage less radical or gaga in comparison to unmarried couples who are emphatically monogamous?

THIS BOOK RAISES TOO MANY PROBLEMATIC QUESTIONS.

[BourbonBoy]

Finished "The Untold History of the United States" by Oliver Stone and Peter Kuznick. I highly recommend my fellow Yanks to pick up a copy and read it, even if you hate history. It's very eye opening and shows you why we're dealing with the shit we are now in the U.S. and the effects with the rest of the world, confirming some of the things I felt when I deployed to Iraq or was stationed overseas in Germany and South Korea.

[Saya]

I've spent the last two hours scanning goodreads for a book recommendation but I'm feeling particularly fussy. I got a coupon for an ebook and I don't want to waste it!

Also, what is Girl With The Dragon Tattoo doing in a list of lesbian fiction? Yes, give a book about how men hate women and want to **** them at every opportunity and how the female lead is very strong and brave for ****** her rapist in revenge.

[Acharis]

Yeah, not my cup of tea. I thought about borrowing the book but didn't after I read one page with one of the abuses... It wasn't "graphic" but I didn't particularly want to read more.

I also just finished 'Big Girl Small' by Rachael DeWoskin, and the plot was unexpectedly similar to Steubenville. Not quite as awful as the real world version and well written, but still I wish I'd chosen something less heavy

I'm now looking for the next book...

Have you read 'Tipping The Velvet' and 'Fingersmith' by Sarah Waters, Saya? I found those really interesting reads. (Tipping The Velvet does contain one incident of what you could possibly call domestic violence, not sure if should TW or not)

[Saya]

Originally Posted by Acharis

Yeah, not my cup of tea. I thought about borrowing the book but didn't after I read one page with one of the abuses... It wasn't "graphic" but I didn't particularly want to read more.

Yeah I should say I didn't find it bad in the book (I hear the movies are more gratuitous), at least not as bad as everyone hyped it up to be. And I know Lisbeth is bi, but her relationship with the Gary Stu character is central and her relationships with other women aren't mentioned at all until one of the later books. Its just one of those books where the dude doesn't know how to write women or about systems of oppression he never experiences, if that makes sense. Like you ever notice how some men when they write sexism, its always very violent and over the top? Its like the only way they get it. Compare it to a **** scene written by Atwood, which usually isn't detailed at all, but reading it is horrible anyway because the men involved are often pretty ordinary and protected by other men and even women under a system of oppression. Even when the rapist in Year Of the Flood was pretty over the top villainous, he was tolerated and put into power. Or compare to Batwoman: Elegy, where its not her superior's fault that the army at the time did not allow lesbians, he even offers to let her stay if she denies it. Its the homophobic system in which this heterosexual office participates in it that takes away her livelihood. I think part of the reason I like Rucka so much is that he can write women as diverse people who suffer from microaggressions instead of huge disgusting **** scenes.

Add in that Lisbeth was named after a woman Larsson saw gang-*****, and the main character is an obvious Gary Stu stand in for Larsson, and its pretty creepy.

I also just finished 'Big Girl Small' by Rachael DeWoskin, and the plot was unexpectedly similar to Steubenville. Not quite as awful as the real world version and well written, but still I wish I'd chosen something less heavy

I'm now looking for the next book...

Have you read 'Tipping The Velvet' and 'Fingersmith' by Sarah Waters, Saya? I found those really interesting reads. (Tipping The Velvet does contain one incident of what you could possibly call domestic violence, not sure if should TW or not)

Tipping the Velvet came up on the same list! Thinking about it, though not in the mood for historical fiction right now.

[Acharis]

I know, in the book it seemed banal and not graphic but still horrible if that makes sense.

I definitely know what you mean about the way some male authors write women... I've seen where the woman is like an idealised romantic/sexual fantasy, or it's the male authors words coming out of his female characters mouth. (Or a combination of the two.)
I've found YMMV though. I can read confronting scenes without finding them exploitative/gratuitous in every case or male-created female characters without finding them too far off, I've just found those things are done frequently and often badly.

Have you read Foxfire by Joyce Carol Oates? (About a girl gang) Still a few stereotypes in it but I enjoyed.

[Saya]

I haven't! I'll check it out, trying to get through the books I bought recently.

Just finished On Beauty by Zadie Smith. I liked it, but I hated one of the characters so much, and while he does get comeuppance in the end, I just felt it wasn't cathartic enough.

I think I'm going to read The No.1 Ladies' Detective Agency to wind down from that.