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Old 01-23-2006, 05:03 AM   #51
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Okay, I'm going to ramble. Feel free to skip this =P

Wait for it... trying... trying...
Nope, can't care.

The gamer geek version:
I'm sorry, but I failed my "give a shit" roll.

I honestly don't care what Goth is or isn't. I don't particularly care if I'm Goth or not. I'm as likely to wear plaid as black, as likely to listen to Stan Rogers as Sisters of Mercy. I put less direct effort into my subcultural identification than I do a pot of coffee. Does that make me less of a Goth? Don't know. Does not caring make me MORE of a Goth? Don't care.

The fact that the subculture can be satirized and we all get the joke indicates there's SOMETHING uniquely identifiable about it, but, by it's nature, it's a very amorphous thing. You're talking about a subculture without definable geographic, socio-economic, or even linguistic bounds. Tracking subculture is a sociologists nightmare: by the time it's been defined, it's changed.

Is there a clear dividing line between Goth and, say, Punk? Yeah, sometimes we can point at one and know it's not the other, but where exactly do you draw that line? I don't know how it works in other folks cities, but in both Detroit and Atlanta there was a LOT of "member-sharing" between the cliques. Throw some Rock-a-Billy in there, and good luck sorting it out.

Honestly, when someone stands behind a black velvet podium and preaches about what Goth is or is not, my first question is whether or not they've given the problem any serious thought.

Goth is like anything else involving people: It's messy, complex, at times beautiful, ugly, fascinating or dull, easy to understand if you let it be itself, a bitch to define when you start imposing terms.

Stop trying, and give a steadier set of hands a chance to bollox the job.

In response to an avater (of all things):
I'm still trying to find an Elder who I can convince that Gir is my spirit guide.
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Old 01-24-2006, 01:52 PM   #52
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We have much lurve for the one called 'Gir', here.

I want to be Gir when I grow up.
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Old 02-10-2006, 10:39 AM   #53
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"when", Wolfy? I think you mean "if"...
Oh yeah, IF!


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Old 02-11-2006, 03:04 PM   #54
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You know, I have no idea everyone is getting upset. (Especially since I cannot find the article either.)

There's is no reason to get snippy! (Mainly directed at the person who bit my head off for the cute little comment involving club kids. It's only a guess that applying a lot of make-up and wearing very uncomfortable clothing was a part of the while artile.)
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Old 02-12-2006, 09:52 AM   #55
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But Santarea... the blind ignorance is 'tEh bliss'?!
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Old 02-14-2006, 02:26 PM   #56
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Isn't that some kind of health drink? Obviously they need extra vitamins, but I wouldn't say they are, "weak."
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Old 02-15-2006, 12:07 PM   #57
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Fuck bliss. Bliss is for the weak.
If ignorance is bliss, then knock the smile off my face!

I <3 you, girl!
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Old 02-18-2006, 02:57 PM   #58
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Thanx. (Maybe it would help if I know what it meant.)
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Old 02-19-2006, 08:35 PM   #59
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Wow, that gives "ignorance is a bliss" a whole different meaning. A more profoundly atheistic meaning.
"Spiritual joy comes from ignorance"
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