What You got for xmas?

[Sanctus Dei]

Now your making no sense. No one was attacking your social or finanical status...but you were attacking anyone who stood to offer their children a nice christmas. Hell, I'm not a parent and I don't blink about spending over a grand on my family... but what you don't seem to be taking into consideration, people tend to BUDGET for these things. They have the capability to decide far ahead of time to save money just for certain occasions.. Vacations, Christmas, etc etc...

I guess I can understand that maybe you've discovered a thread of jealousy within your psyche that may cause you to irrationally attack the good fortune others may receive one day a year but seriously, deal with it. There are levels of wealth all over the nation, some children stand to receive over $1,000 in gifts where others are lucky to get $25 worth what does it matter to you?? What the hell is wrong with just being greateful for what you have and who your parents are?

My mother once drove bus, did daycare...and we never received more then $100-$200 worth in gifts, now she's a single parent but she's fought her way up in the world put herself through Real Estate school and now can afford $500+ dollars worth in gifts for her children... it's a personal accomplishment for her and I'm proud of her for it. Plus she's taught me to work hard for what I want.

So I wonder, are you proud of your parents and their accomplishments?? It seriously sounds as though you have a few issues with this matter...because if you really appreciated all they have done for you in life, whatever the rest of the world is privlaged to receive wouldn't matter to you.

Omar, you're not scum... just in a bad mood perhaps? But you should back up alittle though your sarcasam is horribly misplaced and severly bordering on insulting for no respectable reason.

Originally Posted by sensuous0mar

In response to everyone:

When I hear things like "i got an iPod and a computer" or from some of my friends - all three children in the family got an iPod for Christmas the year they came out - when they were still $500 - plus other gifts, I wonder "how can people do that? Honestly do they really make that much money that they can drop 1500 on just 3 gifts? And then buy more?" I guess my family and myself included must just be the dirt on all of your shoes. The poor that beg for your charity. The urchins that line the pristine streets of your suburbs, because we obviously don't understand what it's like to have money and we're obviously clueless about all of this "giving expensive gifts" talk, and going to private schools - also out of our league, hell, for all you know, we can't even afford to drive a car.

I'm scum. So waste me, why don't you?

Yes indeed you are scum. This little statement right here just proves what a jealous, self-centered, dramatic, little peice of shoe poo you are.

Cry me a fucking river. You need a big lesson in being grateful. I'm sure your parents do the best they can and for you to sit here and whine and complain that they're not getting you better stuff is an insult to them, in the highest degree.

You don't deserve shit. You don't even deserve to call those people your parents. You absolutely fucking disgust me. If you were my child, I'd be fully ashamed you came out of my body.

You just made it to my bad list, you self-absorbed, bitter little cunt. You better believe I'm gonna be all over your ass with special attention. I hope you like smelling like fried bacon litte piglet, cause I'm gonna be roasting the shit out of you.

[sensuous0mar]

For everyone's information before I go, I never said anything about disrespecting my parents or being unhappy with what they give me. I look up to my parents more than anyone could ever understand and they've work harder their whole lives than anyone else I have ever seen, heard of, or met. I only said that I didn't know how people came up with all that money. I've never been well off, I don't know what it's like to have ass loads of money to spend on things for myself and other people. This is why I don't understand. And I said that I would always think to myself "do these people really make that much money?" Didn't you catch that part? It was awe, and some confusion because I've never been there. Tear me limb from limb for being poor and confused if you want to, but if that's the way you treat someone after they've been here a while and make one wrong move, then I don't know if I really need or want to stay and be belittled and berated. It's not worth losing my good mental health. So long, tell Xnguela I guess I'll see her around.

Waa waa waa.

And just for further clarification, just because I think what you've said is bullshit bad form, it DOES NOT represent the opinion of everyone here. So don't generalize your statement to everyone saying what I said, because they didn't.

I suggest you keep your problem to just me, because people dont like having words put into their mouths.

Fucking idiot.

Originally Posted by sensuous0mar

In response to everyone:

When I hear things like "i got an iPod and a computer" or from some of my friends - all three children in the family got an iPod for Christmas the year they came out - when they were still $500 - plus other gifts, I wonder "how can people do that? Honestly do they really make that much money that they can drop 1500 on just 3 gifts? And then buy more?" I guess my family and myself included must just be the dirt on all of your shoes. The poor that beg for your charity. The urchins that line the pristine streets of your suburbs, because we obviously don't understand what it's like to have money and we're obviously clueless about all of this "giving expensive gifts" talk, and going to private schools - also out of our league, hell, for all you know, we can't even afford to drive a car.

I'm scum. So waste me, why don't you?

Whoa......WTF?

You seem to have some serious bitterness issues, hon. I come from a family that wasn't very well off and couldn't afford a lot of things. Now my father is doing much better so he can afford the I pod or what have you. But I never got upset that I couldn't have more no say the things you just posted. I may joke that I'm poor a lot but I don't have coldness you just displayed.

If I really want something, I buy it myself. Whatever my parents decide to give makes me happy. Hell this year I broke the bank getting my parents gifts. Is that so wrong? I actually told them don't worry about getting me anything. I was just happy that I was doing a little better this year so I can get them things they would like. Which from your post you make it sound like what I did was demeaning.

What a way to take the spirit our of gift giving for Christmas.........and here I thought I was doing something nice.

[sensuous0mar]

Can we drop this completely now and forever? Because nobody is understanding what I wanted to say. I said something wrong but it wasn't meant the way that some took it. People are enjoying taking what I said and turning it into what they wanted to hear out of it and it's really just wrong. Everything you are saying is wrong. That's not how I feel, that's not how I am, how many god damn times do I have to say that?


Merry effing Christmas and Happy Birthday, Wendy.

Stop playing the fucking victim you bitch! Fucking apologize already!

You're a nasty little cunt that just doesn't get it. FUCKING LEAVE ALREADY!

The namecalling? I call it like I see it, Hon. But I get your point.

I know Xng. I'm not trying to start anything with you, and I know you don't like this fighting.

[Empty_Purple_Stars]

Originally Posted by sensuous0mar

For everyone's information before I go, I never said anything about being unhappy with what they give me.

Oh Really?

To reiterate, this is what you said..

Originally Posted by sensuous0mar

Are your parents loaded? I've been asking for an iPod for years now and still haven't gotten one.

They're too expensive and I'm sure I'll never get one.

Let alone an iPod, a computer AND a dog at the same time!

The price of your iPod...that's probably all of my christmas gifts combined
(from my parents.)


And I was actually happy.

People with money make me sad

Why can't they start a college fund instead of wasting it on toys?

Originally Posted by sensuous0mar

Tear me limb from limb for being poor and confused if you want to

That's my favorite part.

Now We were tearing you 'limb from limb' for being 'poor and confused'.

Right.

And so we're Crystal Clear, I never said I was wealthy by any stretch of the word..

I said MY PARENTS were Wealthy..

However, I myself don't have two Pennies to rub together currently..

I am paying for my OWN College Education, because I am an adult and prefer to take care of myself. The ONLY thing my family helps me with, is my Medical Bills. And ONLY when I can't handle them on my own. Not because they don't care, but because I prefer to make my own way in the world.

And lets talk about being Poor and Confused..

Have you ever had to dig through Garbage Cans for something to eat?

I Have.

Have you ever had to find a doorway to sleep in OUTDOORS, hoping no one Jumped you while you slept?

I Have.

Have you ever gone more than ten days without Food, so your child could have something to eat?

I Have.

Have you ever donated your own Blood Plasma to buy Diapers and Formula for your Baby?

I Have.

So before you climb up on your " I am so Poor " " You Guys Are So Rich " High Horse, I suggest that you have not one clue what REALLY being desperately poor means.

I have made some really stupid decisions in my life, and they landed my son and I in situations I PRAY you NEVER experience.

So you can remove any thoughts you have of me being some Little Rich Girl with no idea what the bottom smells like.

My son and I were also on Food Stamps and received TANF for several years, while I clawed my way back up from the bottom.

So don't tell me about being Poor and Confused, because you haven't even been out in the REAL WORLD long enough to understand the Harsh Reality that awaits those who lose their way.

All of this could have been avoided so easily, WiTHOUT your shitty attitude.

I was respectful in my Post to you, I simply did not understand nor appreciate the remarks you made, and the envy that dripped from your obvious anger at not being given the Gifts you wanted.

To which you responded with;

Originally Posted by sensuous0mar

In response to everyone:

I guess my family and myself included must just be the dirt on all of your shoes.
The poor that beg for your charity.
The urchins that line the pristine streets of your suburbs, because we obviously don't understand what it's like to have money and we're obviously clueless about all of this "giving expensive gifts" talk, and going to private schools
- also out of our league, hell, for all you know, we can't even afford to drive a car.

I'm scum. So waste me, why don't you?

And you wonder why everyone crawled up your ass afterwards..

And then you try and backpedal by saying;

Originally Posted by sensuous0mar

I only said that I didn't know how people came up with all that money. I've never been well off, I don't know what it's like to have ass loads of money to spend on things for myself and other people. This is why I don't understand.

And I said that I would always think to myself "do these people really make that much money?" Didn't you catch that part? It was awe, and some confusion because I've never been there.

If that was what you had said to begin with, NONE of this would have happened.

How friggin hard would it have been to say;

" Ya know, you're right.. What I said totally came out wrong. I wasn't in a good mood or whatever and I didn't mean to sound so hateful and envious. "

Case Closed.

But instead you responded with;

Originally Posted by sensuous0mar

In response to everyone:

I guess my family and myself included must just be the dirt on all of your shoes.
The poor that beg for your charity.
The urchins that line the pristine streets of your suburbs, because we obviously don't understand what it's like to have money and we're obviously clueless about all of this "giving expensive gifts" talk, and going to private schools
- also out of our league, hell, for all you know, we can't even afford to drive a car.

I'm scum. So waste me, why don't you?

Just to refresh your memory, in case me quoting it the first time up there ^^ didn't sink in to your brain.

What you were really mad about in my opinion was this;

Originally Posted by sensuous0mar

Xmas is long gone...does anyone really care anymore?

I mean half my shit from xmas is broken already.

You just couldn't stand it that other people got things of a more exspensive nature, when 'half' of your things were broken.

It's so incredibly silly, that your posts and my observations about the contradictions within them caused you to respond in such an Ugly Fashion to the rest of us.

If that's how you respond when someones tries to offer you a different perspective on a particular subject, you are in for a very rude awakening when you graduate.

Either way, I wash my hands of your hateful and manipulative attempts at making us feel guilty.

The. End.

Afuckingmen

[Empty_Purple_Stars]

I appreciate your attempts to diffuse the situation Xng.

I certainly never expected that a simple observation would be met with such hostility.

Sorry you have to get dragged into the middle of this.

[sensuous0mar]

I'm sorry that you felt the need to be my friend and stick up for me, Xng. You really didn't need to. I like being dogshit.

[Empty_Purple_Stars]

Originally Posted by sensuous0mar

I like being dogshit.

Is that supposed to make us all run for our boxes of Kleenex?

Could you be a BIGGER Drama Queen maybe?

It's cute how you ignored my response to you, and instead chose to spit in the face of the ONE person here who is trying to get your Whiney Butt out of a crack.

Real Classy.

Take Xng's advice and just Shut It.

You're embarassing yourself further, with every post you make.

Have some self-respect.

Fucking Sigh.

Originally Posted by sensuous0mar

I'm sorry that you felt the need to be my friend and stick up for me, Xng. You really didn't need to. I like being dogshit.

You are lower then fucking low.

[Sanctus Dei]

Omar.. you really need a puppy.


Okay, so I was supposed to get this jacket for christmas... a Carhart winter coat, not too spendy just warm. Well, it never showed?! Out of any of the items I received it was the only thing I asked for because I don't have a winter coat!! I could go buy one myself but I've been waiting for the one that was "ordered" so up until friday I've spent the winter in a slightly heavy spring coat... (I run alot)

Guess, I'll have to cough up the cash to buy one (I wonder if it was ever even ordered?!) BUT no big deal, when I want something no need to ask anyone... I just work for it myself.

[sensuous0mar]

Originally Posted by Xnguela

Well, I'm glad you can tell me shit like that on a public forum instead of in-fucking-person. Really.

Seriously, 0mar, shut the fuck up and leave this forum. At least for tonight. I don't want anymore of this shit.

You were sorry for being dragged into it too? So I was sorry that you were dragged into it because you were my friend. Is that okay?

[Empty_Purple_Stars]

Originally Posted by Sanctus Dei

Omar.. you really need a puppy.


Okay, so I was supposed to get this jacket for christmas... a Carhart winter coat, not too spendy just warm. Well, it never showed?! Out of any of the items I received it was the only thing I asked for because I don't have a winter coat!! I could go buy one myself but I've been waiting for the one that was "ordered" so up until friday I've spent the winter in a slightly heavy spring coat... (I run alot)

Guess, I'll have to cough up the cash to buy one (I wonder if it was ever even ordered?!) BUT no big deal, when I want something no need to ask anyone... I just work for it myself.

I have some Extras if you're interested, Pretty..

I don't want you turning into a Human Popsicle in those Subhuman Temps there.

PM me when you get a chance..

*Smooches*

Originally Posted by sensuous0mar

You were sorry for being dragged into it too? So I was sorry that you were dragged into it because you were my friend. Is that okay?

Boy you really have a fucking way with words.

How long do you plan to drag this thing out?

[Sanctus Dei]

Depends...Does angst ever really go away?

Sensous, stop being a shitty friend.

Xng was trying to politley show you that yes, she thinks you may have been wrong. She did not call you names, she stated it all eloquently. And you got pissed because she did not stick up for you.

Well that's fucked up. The only one being treated like "dogshit" is Xng by your harsh words.

Just stop.

[anti]

Oh, the drama...

It's making me smile.

Like this:

[Zeyre]

Look, people, this is the kind of stupid crap that really has no place on any forums. You advertise yourself as an enlightened literary group and you degenerate into bashing one another like this.

I mod a forum on another site, and when something like this happens, the thread needs to just be locked. Some people just THRIVE on this kind of drama, and regardless of who you are, if you're posting here bashing someone else, you're only perpetuating it. If you really don't want the drama, then just stop talking. Deleting this thread is probably the best idea, as it's the only real solution: Just forget about it. Grow up, get over it.

I know you may not have the most active mods to do these kinds of things for you, but that just means you all have to exercise a little more maturity and tact in what you say to others. I don't care what side of this argument you're on, if someone pisses you off, take a deep breath, tell them how you feel, and be RESPECTFUL.

Some people just don't understand that despite the fact that it's so easy to bash people online, that doesn't make it any less real.

Wonderful Zeyre is a mod on ANOTHER SITE.

Why don't you go to that site then and take your fucking "advice" elsewhere.

Idiot.