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04-20-2009, 06:11 PM
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#26
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Join Date: Dec 2006
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It's irrelevant because talking to you is a fucking waste of time. But yeah, I'm that fucking stupid.
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04-20-2009, 06:24 PM
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#27
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: El Paso, Texas/ Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua
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If talking to me overall is a waste of time, why did you only say IF I believed so?
God, I both love and hate how people are never consistent. They don't give a shit about having a real opinion, they just want to hear themselves.
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I cleave to no system. I am a true seeker."
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Originally Posted by George Carlin
People who say they don’t care what people think are usually desperate to have people think they don’t care what people think.
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04-20-2009, 06:31 PM
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#28
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Fiddler's Green
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Originally Posted by Godslayer Jillian
. They don't give a shit about having a real opinion, they just want to hear themselves.
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Wish you could tell that to numerous people running numerous governments, haha. [Edit: Pretty general, right?]
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04-20-2009, 08:31 PM
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#29
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: United States.
Posts: 1,670
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Originally Posted by Godslayer Jillian
I'm curious. Why do you guys think it's dumb?
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I detest all drugs. We've discussed this and I don't wish to do so again.
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04-20-2009, 08:44 PM
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#30
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Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Dirty South
Posts: 1,726
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I feel bad for you when you have to go to the hospital.
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04-20-2009, 08:51 PM
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#31
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: United States.
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I do detest drugs. Drugs for recreational purposes I strictly do no do.
Drugs for health reasons I force myself to live with but use them very rarely.
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"What a bunch of garbage: liberal, democrat, conservative, republican. Two sides of the same coin. Two management teams bidding for control, the CEO job, of Slavery Inc."
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04-20-2009, 08:51 PM
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#32
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: El Paso, Texas/ Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua
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Originally Posted by Slap Your Love
I detest all drugs. We've discussed this and I don't wish to do so again.
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That does not make the existence of a holiday stupid, merely the reason for the holiday.
That's entirely a different discussion.
Now, I would also argue that your detestation for "all drugs" is entirely arbitrary, but I doubt we'll get to that too.
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"No theory, no ready-made system, no book that has ever been written will save the world.
I cleave to no system. I am a true seeker."
-Mikhail Bakunin
Quote:
Originally Posted by George Carlin
People who say they don’t care what people think are usually desperate to have people think they don’t care what people think.
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04-20-2009, 09:02 PM
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#33
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: United States.
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It's my opinion. It's not meant to be proved correct or not because it cannot be.
What's important to one could not be to another.
The discussion is not worth committing to.
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"What a bunch of garbage: liberal, democrat, conservative, republican. Two sides of the same coin. Two management teams bidding for control, the CEO job, of Slavery Inc."
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04-20-2009, 09:07 PM
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#34
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Athens, GA
Posts: 1,696
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Originally Posted by Sinjob
Wow.
I don't even have to comment on this one.
For crying out loud, don't make this another 'let's bash/stereotype' smokers thread. Especially when you don't know what you're talking about.
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Getting high is a social construct.
"User reaction, however, is heavily influenced by expectations and past experience, and many first-time users feel nothing at all."
From a .org site.
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"Don't ever let anybody teach you to think, Lance: it is the curse of the world." - King Arthur in T.H. White's The Once And Future King
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you" The Bible (Matthew 7:12)
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04-20-2009, 09:15 PM
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#35
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Earth.
Posts: 8,001
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Originally Posted by Pyre
No one gets high the first few times they smoke.
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Untrue.
I was definitely high the first time I smoked.
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04-20-2009, 09:22 PM
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#36
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Athens, GA
Posts: 1,696
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But how much did you smoke and how sensitive to it are you? That could make the biggest difference.
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"Don't ever let anybody teach you to think, Lance: it is the curse of the world." - King Arthur in T.H. White's The Once And Future King
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you" The Bible (Matthew 7:12)
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04-20-2009, 09:27 PM
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#37
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 9,548
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I shared a small joint with another girl when I first smoked it and got body stoned.
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04-20-2009, 09:41 PM
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#38
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: El Paso, Texas/ Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua
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Originally Posted by Slap Your Love
It's my opinion. It's not meant to be proved correct or not because it cannot be.
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My opinion is that South Park is written, directed, and produced by one single Polynesian twelve year old.
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"No theory, no ready-made system, no book that has ever been written will save the world.
I cleave to no system. I am a true seeker."
-Mikhail Bakunin
Quote:
Originally Posted by George Carlin
People who say they don’t care what people think are usually desperate to have people think they don’t care what people think.
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04-20-2009, 09:43 PM
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#39
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Earth.
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Originally Posted by Pyre
But how much did you smoke and how sensitive to it are you? That could make the biggest difference.
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Or I'm just not an idiot and I know how to breathe.
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04-20-2009, 09:53 PM
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#40
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Athens, GA
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Originally Posted by Underwater Ophelia
Or I'm just not an idiot and I know how to breathe.
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I'm sure the numerous people who smoked correctly and felt no effects would agree with you.
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"Don't ever let anybody teach you to think, Lance: it is the curse of the world." - King Arthur in T.H. White's The Once And Future King
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you" The Bible (Matthew 7:12)
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04-21-2009, 04:05 AM
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#41
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 220
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I felt it the first time, and any time after that.
While I do believe some sort of placebo effect can occur when you think you're smoking weed but aren't, I've smoked many times when I was alone, or the only one getting high, and still felt it, it's definitely not a social construct.
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04-21-2009, 06:02 AM
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#42
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 2,721
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While it's not true that everyone feels nothing the first time they smoke, it's not uncommon for this to happen. I guess it's one of those reactions that some experience and others don't.
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All pleasure is relief from tension. - William S. Burroughs
Witches have no wit, said the magician who was weak.
Hula, hula, said the witches. - Norman Mailer
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04-21-2009, 06:50 AM
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#43
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Heaven and Earth
Posts: 2,606
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It seems that the effects of marijuana are similar to anything else. Some folks feel it more keenly than others, and some folks don't feel it at all.
I'm disinclined to try it, but that's mostly for personal reasons.
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"Follow your bliss..."
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04-21-2009, 07:14 AM
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#44
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: United States.
Posts: 1,670
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Godslayer Jillian
My opinion is that South Park is written, directed, and produced by one single Polynesian twelve year old.
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Awesome.
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04-21-2009, 12:35 PM
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#45
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: El Paso, Texas/ Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua
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See? You have nothing to actually have a rational justification. You're gonna be a terrible philosophy major.
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"No theory, no ready-made system, no book that has ever been written will save the world.
I cleave to no system. I am a true seeker."
-Mikhail Bakunin
Quote:
Originally Posted by George Carlin
People who say they don’t care what people think are usually desperate to have people think they don’t care what people think.
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04-21-2009, 01:05 PM
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#46
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: United States.
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Originally Posted by Godslayer Jillian
See? You have nothing to actually have a rational justification. You're gonna be a terrible philosophy major.
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The topic was a subjective one that cannot have facts and it's only opinionated whereas the red herring bullshit you supplied can be proved by fact and is objective.
Oh and go fucking die. I assure you no one will care.
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"What a bunch of garbage: liberal, democrat, conservative, republican. Two sides of the same coin. Two management teams bidding for control, the CEO job, of Slavery Inc."
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04-21-2009, 01:10 PM
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#47
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: In the Desert
Posts: 4,270
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Think it'll ever be legalized?
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04-21-2009, 01:11 PM
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#48
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: El Paso, Texas/ Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua
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Consistency is never subjective, dipshit. That's the whole point of dialectic.
the-nihilist just proved to you how your opinion couldn't possibly apply to all circumstances, and you had to modify your opinion to it.
So your bullshit claim isn't subjective just because you say it is, just as my parallel isn't subjective.
Where you got that it's a "red herring", I have no idea. Probably you've just seen use use it around and thought it sounded cool.
Oh, and by the way, it's really hypocritical of you to be (falsely) accusing me of using a red herring and then you go on to make an ad hominem.
I assure you that many people would care if I die. Not that you care. But guess what, you're not the center of the world. You're not even above average to consider yourself special when you can't even argue for your life. (by the way, just let me guess. Your next response will be some shitty permutation of insulting me and pretending 'you don't care' because you really can't think of anything else to defend your position)
So yeah.
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"No theory, no ready-made system, no book that has ever been written will save the world.
I cleave to no system. I am a true seeker."
-Mikhail Bakunin
Quote:
Originally Posted by George Carlin
People who say they don’t care what people think are usually desperate to have people think they don’t care what people think.
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04-21-2009, 01:19 PM
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#49
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: United States.
Posts: 1,670
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Originally Posted by Godslayer Jillian
Consistency is never subjective, dipshit. That's the whole point of dialectic.
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Bullshit.
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Originally Posted by Godslayer Jillian
the-nihilist just proved to you how your opinion couldn't possibly apply to all circumstances, and you had to modify your opinion to it.
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No, that is my opinion.
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Originally Posted by Godslayer Jillian
So your bullshit claim isn't subjective just because you say it is, just as my parallel isn't subjective.
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Tell me how one's opinion on anything isn't subjective.
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Originally Posted by Godslayer Jillian
Oh, and by the way, it's really hypocritical of you to be (falsely) accusing me of using a red herring and then you go on to make an ad hominem.
I assure you that many people would care if I die. Not that you care. But guess what, you're not the center of the world. You're not even above average to consider yourself special when you can't even argue for your life. (by the way, just let me guess. Your next response will be some shitty permutation of insulting me and pretending 'you don't care' because you really can't thin of anything else to argue
So yeah.
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It wasn't part of the argument so it's not an ad hominem. I just hate you.
You're not the center of the world either or special whatsoever which is why you try to make anything whatsoever an argument to feed your crazed ego that no one cares about.
And correct, I don't care. Good job.
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04-21-2009, 01:25 PM
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#50
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: In the Desert
Posts: 4,270
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SYL, it's best to quit while you're behind.
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