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Old 10-06-2005, 07:47 AM   #1
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Reanimating The Dead Now A Reality!

Source: Strange Mag.com

Some June 2005 reports in the British media portrayed the situation as scientists creating scary zombie dogs, but the reality is actually a hopeful one, abetting life not death. Badly injured people and animals may soon be kept in lengthy and reliable suspended animation until they can be properly treated.

For this, scientists at the Safar Center for Resuscitation Research in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania have come up with an improved version of their technique in which animals' blood is drained out and then replaced with a cold salt solution. (This method was used in their experiments at least as early as 2002.) When the experimental animal is thus rendered clinically dead, operations can be performed, since the lowering of the body temperature with a cold flush solution to 7 degrees Centigrade allows time for quality surgery. Up to three hours later, the salt solution is removed and replaced with blood, and the animal is subjected to electric shock and 100% oxygen — which brings it back to life. Tests have shown that after an animal has returned to normal, its brain is undamaged. Pitt's Safar Center in Oakland announced in late June that three hours of suspended animation had been achieved, surpassing earlier results by an hour.

Because of the animal cruelty concerns of some, the Safar Center has stated that its tests on animals are done under strict oversight by the University of Pittsburgh's veterinary staff, and that anesthesia and pain medications are administered under rigorous standards.

Human experiments making use of the radical techniques are expected to begin in 2006.

The Safar Center (originally the International Resuscitation Research Center) was founded in 1979 by the late Peter Safar, pioneer of "mouth-to-mouth" resuscitation, CPR, and many ambulance practices. In the 1980s he began serious development of "big chill" suspended animation, so doctors will have a useful tool with which to save people under adverse conditions such as battlefields.

The use of cold to slow body processes has already been put into practice, at least to some extent. Mild cooling methods have been used at Vienna General Hospital and at hospitals in Melbourne, Australia for a few years, to no known macabre comment.

On June 22, 2005, an amusing juxtaposition took place in Pittsburgh. As trauma surgeons got together for the third annual Safar Symposium, horror fans — some in zombie costume — attended the city's premiere of the George Romero movie Land of the Dead.

Such a link with scariness is not new. Boris Karloff used a "big chill" technique in the science-fictional complications of his 1940 movie The Man With Nine Lives. This long pre-dated the British tabloid "horrors."

Such public conceptions are likely to die down, as it were, and the new techniques will become as popular as the earlier methods Safar helped develop. Of course, controversy was no stranger to Safar's work. One of his mottos was "when on thin ice, dance." Dr. Patrick Kochanek, the present Safar Center director, is carrying on a vital legacy.
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Old 10-06-2005, 07:55 AM   #2
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Wow..

That is pretty friggin cool.

Sign me up. I would just love to have my entire blood supply removed and replaced with Cold Salt Water..

People already tell me I have Ice Water in my veins..



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Old 10-10-2005, 01:03 AM   #3
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So... how long did these "franken-dogs" live after they were brought back?
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Old 10-14-2005, 05:05 AM   #4
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Well, seeing they didn't got braindamage and other then the cooled down saltwater nothing much really happened ... I doubt it would have been shortened.

In anyway, the technique might be a more secure way of transport for people in serious danger. Although I doubt saltwater would feel so nice (ever had salt in a wound?), unless offcourse they mean the mixture that is natural to the human body.

I still think those immortal little fishy things in some cave of of China (those true immortal little critters) would offer a much better way for unlimited cel-dividing and thus a might-be cure for cancer and other cel-divinding anomilies.

(Source about those fishies was on either 6 o'clock news or some science program, anyway I thought it was reliable)
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Old 11-24-2005, 08:14 PM   #5
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yes, i heards about the sailne replacing blood solution, they have tried it many times actually, but only a small percent actually lived through the night, But the entire concept is amazing. Similar to cloning though. An oragnism that could live forever,
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Old 11-24-2005, 11:49 PM   #6
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Hurray for the future of medical cryogenics.
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Old 11-25-2005, 11:00 AM   #7
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here here.
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Old 11-26-2005, 03:24 PM   #8
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I Think If I Got It I Would Be Ice Cold To Anyone At My Mercy........
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Old 11-26-2005, 07:24 PM   #9
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What if they decided not to bring you back to life again, bitch?

That's pretty cool... 0.o sounds like a good horror movie. Or a bad one that I'd like anyway.
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Old 11-26-2005, 08:30 PM   #10
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Wow, frozen. Sounds fun..
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Old 11-26-2005, 09:01 PM   #11
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Yes, much fun, Although it is playing with the life cycle and the laws of nature....... o.O
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Old 11-27-2005, 11:45 PM   #12
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That's just plain creepy.
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Old 11-28-2005, 01:34 PM   #13
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I know that the thread started 2 months ago but I just joined that is very interesting I just dont understand how you can shut the brain and the heart down without any serious problems. So I wonder if they get the ok for human experimenting if it will be people with a life threating disease thats not going to live for very long or if they just take random volunteers for this experiment.

No I know what they do they draw you in with the promise of punch and pie and when they have enough volunteers they hold you down and sudate your ass.

I know its happened to me before but of course different experiment, damn my ass still hurts and NO! I DONT WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT
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Old 11-28-2005, 02:36 PM   #14
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ok, then we wont ask you about it.
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Old 11-29-2005, 10:57 AM   #15
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I would like 2 die and b reanimated. so I can reezpirience da joy of dying
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Old 11-29-2005, 12:51 PM   #16
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And I'd like to be the one to murder you for your stupidity. By the way, it's spelled reexperience.
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Old 11-29-2005, 02:20 PM   #17
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*chuckles* There goes the grammar thing again.....
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Old 11-29-2005, 02:38 PM   #18
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No, actually, aside from it being highly amusing, it is also kind of nice to be able to go to an online-site that doen's use, abreviations.
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Old 12-24-2005, 03:34 PM   #19
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Way interesting thread!
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Old 12-25-2005, 11:38 AM   #20
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Isn't it though.
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Old 12-26-2005, 12:30 AM   #21
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I read that somewhere in the paper, I don't really know what I think of it.
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Old 12-26-2005, 10:38 AM   #22
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I think its pretty cool, but its a big mistake. With all the cloning and crap, we've already messed enough with nature as it is, but now with this whole re-animeting thing, we are just setting us up for some ass kicking to com in the future.
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Old 12-26-2005, 07:29 PM   #23
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nature can take care of herself. If we crossed over a line, Im sure she would make a pox that would kill us all in a matter of hours.

But back to topic. Its about time my zombie dreams come true.

I heard that in Russia, the would pack a body with snow to drop the temp, then replace damaged organs with new ones. Once the surgery was finished, the body was slowly warmed and and heart would start again. But then again, it was a rumour.
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Old 01-05-2006, 12:23 AM   #24
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I find it absolutely funny and fascinating that you refer to nature with personification.
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Old 01-05-2006, 02:05 AM   #25
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These people have learned nothing from Resident Evil!

Overall it does seem life a good idea, as many people in critical condition die before they can be treated.
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