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09-24-2007, 05:48 PM
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Stiching my arm ???
So I stiched/laced my arm. ITs about 3 inches down my arm and done like a corset. I made it so I can ajust the tightness, the tighter it is the more it hurts.. I figure this is way better than cutting (which I dont really care for). It hurts more than a cut, and it looks nice or at least it does to me.I paln on getting my arms eirced anyways.
I have school tomorow. and I dont really wanna take it out. I also dont want to get sent to some mental institute. Im wondering if people will treat this the same way they would treat cutting? Cuz im not really sure. Could I get away with claiming it was for decoration?
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09-24-2007, 06:22 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
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Originally Posted by BLEED REBELION!!!
So I stiched/laced my arm. ITs about 3 inches down my arm and done like a corset. I made it so I can ajust the tightness, the tighter it is the more it hurts.. I figure this is way better than cutting (which I dont really care for). It hurts more than a cut, and it looks nice or at least it does to me.I paln on getting my arms eirced anyways.
I have school tomorow. and I dont really wanna take it out. I also dont want to get sent to some mental institute. Im wondering if people will treat this the same way they would treat cutting? Cuz im not really sure. Could I get away with claiming it was for decoration?
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First of all, you are putting yourself at risk for infection and scarring. An arm corset piercing done by a trained professional is still likely to reject, so yours almost definitely will, especially if you are purposefully tugging on it.
Second, I think it will be seen as worse than cutting because it's far more unusual and visible. If you are planning on wearing clothing that exposes it I have to wonder if getting attention factored into your behavior anyhow.
Third, you really need to talk to a guidance counselor or qualified professional if you think this sort of behavior is somehow different or better than self mutilation as a way of dealing with issues. Self-done surface piercings do not strike me as a very practical coping mechanism.
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09-24-2007, 06:30 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Happy Valley, Utah
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I have school tomorow. and I dont really wanna take it out. I also dont want to get sent to some mental institute. Im wondering if people will treat this the same way they would treat cutting? Cuz im not really sure. Could I get away with claiming it was for decoration?
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Things you probably should have thought of before you got needle-happy. I suggest taking it out now--on account of infections, scarring, and adverse reactions--and getting a real hobby.
Self-harm is an ugly thing, private, nasty thing; aestheticizing it like this and then sharing it with the world makes me wonder what you're really after.
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09-24-2007, 06:46 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2006
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Self-harm IS a demon. You'll get addicted to it, and it'll be REALLY hard to stop. It's a bit like heroin in some ways: the more you do it, the more you HAVE to do it, and the worse you have to do it. Trust me.
It also lowers your immune system, so you can't fight off infections as quickly. To quote Bilbo, it's like butter spread over too much bread.
And the scars from it are a pain in the ass, especially if you don't take proper care of them, or if, as mentionned above, your immune system is so over-taxed. They stay red for at least half a year, and sometimes get raised and ugly like that. And wearing long-sleeved shirts all summer is not pleasant.
And yes, an arm-corset would probably get a far stronger reaction than simple cutting. I doubt you could get away with a decoration excuse, as people would find it to be pretty morbid decoration.
I agree with the councellor suggestion, too. It may take a while to find one who works well with you, but it's worth it.
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09-24-2007, 07:07 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Nagoya, Aichi, Japan
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Yeah I wasn’t thinking about school when I did it, I was just freaking out and needed to do something about it so I did. As for sharing it with the world, I am not this is the net. None of you will meet me, and this was my most comfortable option for getting advice.
I thought about getting an infection but I didn’t really care and I’m not sure I do now. I don’t care about scars no ones ever noticed them before. And I don’t care if it rips out. I don’t mean for it to be permanent it is just to help me out for the moment. I didn’t intend to make a corset at first. I just did it once because the thought crossed my mind. It made me feel better. Then I wanted to do it some more so I did. I still don’t feel as though I’ve done enough, to myself, I don’t feel completely better. It hurt more than other stuff.
I don’t really want my teachers to see it cuz I know they will be disappointed in me and I don’t want them to be. I have dance classes at school, and the dance uniform shows my arms. So I’m not sure If I will try and wear long sleeves under it or not. I’ve never done this shit for attention before and I never got caught without being able to lie my way out of it.
I do want help I need it. But not for self harm because I don’t think its wrong. I want help for with what makes me want to do this stuff. But I don’t have money for therapy and I don’t want a therapist telling my mother anything I say. No matter what I do my family wont change, and I have no where else to go, so I figure I should just wait till I’m 18 and then get therapy. I really don’t want to go to foster care. And I don’t want to be the girl that confirms bad stereo types about “Goths/punks/emos”….
You wonder what I’m really after? Well when do it I just want to feel better. And I don’t do it often, once every couple of months when everything builds up and I cant take it anymore. I promised someone important I wouldn’t cut and I looked for a loop hole. I just get so angry and I don’t have any power. I cant direct anger at the people that make me feel this way, because either they control my life, or they ae simply bigger and stronger than me.
I don’t want to get taken out of school it’s the only thing I’ve got the only time I get to leave my house without a fucking inquisition. I love school. But everything is getting worse and I cant figure how to fix it I’m fucking lost….
I don’t know if I want them to see it or not. And I don’t know how to “ask” for help because is embarrassing and, they wouldn’t like what they hear, they would probably send me somewhere..
I have no clue what I want.
I just know that Im not happy, and I hate it here but I cant leave. I know that It makes me feel better to hurt myself, and that it’s the only way to keep myself from blowing up and doing something stupid……….Like beating someone else to death…..
How bad could an infection last? How bad can it get? And how long do I have till I get one?
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09-24-2007, 07:31 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
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Originally Posted by BLEED REBELION!!!
I don’t know if I want them to see it or not. And I don’t know how to “ask” for help because is embarrassing and, they wouldn’t like what they hear, they would probably send me somewhere..
I have no clue what I want.
I just know that Im not happy, and I hate it here but I cant leave. I know that It makes me feel better to hurt myself, and that it’s the only way to keep myself from blowing up and doing something stupid……….Like beating someone else to death…..
How bad could an infection last? How bad can it get? And how long do I have till I get one?
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So your pride is more important to you then your happiness? Unless you are a clear danger to yourself or others you will not get "sent" anywhere.
There are many other effective coping mechanisms besides self harm. It is far from your only option.
Your skin will get irritated soon, in the next few days probably. From there it will either get infected, or your body will start rejecting the piercings (pushing them out slowly) or both. If you're too embarrassed to see a counselor, how are you going to explain why you need to see a doctor, who will likely be less understanding of your behavior?
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09-24-2007, 07:42 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2006
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Umm when I say send me somewhere I mean a foster home... and its string tied on both ends my body cant push it out...
The kinda stuff I would tell a therapist is he kinda stuff I dont want people I have to deal with everyday to know. God damn it I think I will wear long sleeve shirt and just sweat to death..
This is the first time I seriously considered talking to some one.
And I think in one way telling will make it better because I might stop geting the urge to hurt myself and it might stop feeling good. But then it will be worse because the way my family will act...
Pride? its not about pride so much as shame.........
I dont even think they should be able to punish me for this its my body..... I just dont want to get the kind of "help" I dont want.. like pills.
Thanks for actually talking to me about this...I dont mean to annoy anyone.
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09-24-2007, 07:45 PM
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Addicted? Its not about the actual cutting or sewing its about making the other feelings stop..
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"Yo tengo la empanada empinada"
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09-24-2007, 07:47 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: New England
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Originally Posted by BLEED REBELION!!!
Umm when I say send me somewhere I mean a foster home... and its string tied on both ends my body cant push it out...
The kinda stuff I would tell a therapist is he kinda stuff I dont want people I have to deal with everyday to know. God damn it I think I will wear long sleeve shirt and just sweat to death..
This is the first time I seriously considered talking to some one.
And I think in one way telling will make it better because I might stop geting the urge to hurt myself and it might stop feeling good. But then it will be worse because the way my family will act...
Pride? its not about pride so much as shame.........
I dont even think they should be able to punish me for this its my body..... I just dont want to get the kind of "help" I dont want.. like pills.
Thanks for actually talking to me about this...I dont mean to annoy anyone.
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If it is easier for your body to push the string out than heal around it, it will push it out, especially if it's not in too deep.
The point of a therapist is that you can talk about things in confidence without worrying about judgment or burdening them. They cannot send you to foster care unless you are being physically abused, which you've said you're not. And no one can force you to take pills if you don't want to. I just think you need to learn better coping skills, but you won't be able to without someone qualified teaching you them.
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09-24-2007, 07:52 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2006
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I dont want them telling about old abuse because I cant deal with that. And My friend told her shrink about some old stuff and they called her mom and the cops and told on her.
I feel like Im getting ripped in two directions and I dont know which Is right.........................
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09-24-2007, 08:01 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2007
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First of all, take it out.
I used to do play sewing (actually I still do, not for the reasons you do it though) and when I was young and foolish tried to keep it in and used sewing thread and needles (ick!). After a few days it went gooey and disgusting, I had to cut it out because as the skin was healing the flesh binded with the fibres in the thread. LOVELY!
It is possible to get addicted to self harm, it's the same as taking drugs to make the other feelings stop, you rely on it because it's the only way you have learnt to cope.
To be honest though...until you're ready to let people help you to help yourself, there is nothing anyone can say to make you stop doing this.
Maybe there is someone you can confide in who aren't family members. I'm sure there is atleast one person in your life who will support you.
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09-24-2007, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by BLEED REBELION!!!
I dont want them telling about old abuse because I cant deal with that. And My friend told her shrink about some old stuff and they called her mom and the cops and told on her.
I feel like Im getting ripped in two directions and I dont know which Is right.........................
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If a psychologist feels that a child is being endangered or abused they are legally obligated to talk to the police.
There comes a point where if you're not willing to get help, then you have to accept your choice to be on your own and learn to deal in more constructive ways. Or you can destroy yourself; it's really up to you. But I'm not going to try to talk you into anything, you're old enough to decide for yourself.
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09-24-2007, 08:04 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2006
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Yeppers... I am old enough to make my own decisions... but im too much of a mother fucking retarded chumo to do anything.... I guess I'll see how I feel about it in the morning.........
well thanks for talking as much as you did.. I make too many excuses....
Blaaaa tto bad I wont actually kill myself I lack the will
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09-24-2007, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by BLEED REBELION!!!
I wont actually kill myself I lack the will
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No, you're just smart enough to know it's not worth it.
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09-24-2007, 08:45 PM
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Legally, a therapist can't tell anyone anything, unless there's been child abuse, sexual abuse, or if you're a danger to your own life or someone else's life.
And they can't force you to take pills unless you're a significant danger to yourself or someone else, and even then, I'm not sure....
Bleed rebellion, you sound like me when I first started doing that stuff. I won't post it all here, but you could PM me (if that's possible), or msn/e-mail me. I think my addy's in my profile...
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09-24-2007, 09:37 PM
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Sing along if you know the words: "Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil, Celexa, Effexor, Cymbalta, Avanza, Remeron, Edronax, Zyban, Wellbutrin, desipramine, Manerix, Ensam, etc., etc., ..." Wait, that doesn't rhyme, does it? Oh well. There's always opium.
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09-24-2007, 10:58 PM
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I'm a cutter and I say that while your "arm corset" sounds beautiful, you should take it out for school. Treat the wounds with antibiotics and wear long sleeves for a bit. There is nothing beneficial about SI. If you are trying to hurt yourself to fit in, talk to a counselor. If you're really hurting inside, talk to someone and find something that distracts you from what is harming you. For me it's dancing and writing, but whatever works.
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At some point, you need to look yourself in the mirror and realize that what other people did to you does not define you as a person. You and your actions define who you are as a person. It's up to you to be a good person, in spite of all the evil you've faced. In fact, it should be because of the evil you see that it's good you do. Be the change you want in the world. Next time someone tells me that they're an asshole because they've had a bad life, I'm stabbing them in the eye with a spork.
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09-25-2007, 12:23 AM
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Art is really the only thing that completely distracts me from SI. Ahhh fabulous art... you are my crack!
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09-25-2007, 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by BLEED REBELION!!!
So I stiched/laced my arm. ITs about 3 inches down my arm and done like a corset. I made it so I can ajust the tightness, the tighter it is the more it hurts.. I figure this is way better than cutting (which I dont really care for). It hurts more than a cut, and it looks nice or at least it does to me.I paln on getting my arms eirced anyways.
I have school tomorow. and I dont really wanna take it out. I also dont want to get sent to some mental institute. Im wondering if people will treat this the same way they would treat cutting? Cuz im not really sure. Could I get away with claiming it was for decoration?
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Personally, I think it sounds really cool. But it does run a high risk of infection/rejection, so you shouldn't keep it. If you really like the idea or look of lacing on your arm, you should invest some time and/or money into a multi-piece lace-up gauntlet.
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09-25-2007, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by BLEED REBELION!!!
How bad could an infection last? How bad can it get? And how long do I have till I get one?
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Well, I don't mean to sound like a doomsayer, but it can get pretty fucking bad. There is this wonderful little infection called gangrene, which is a blood poison I believe. Basically the infected tissue dies and begins to rot. I don't know if there is any modern cure for it, but the traditional cure was amputation or death. As to how long you have, it depends on how clean you keep it and how strong your immune system is.
I also believe that you should either find help, or otherwise get some hobby, something you enjoy, to help keep your mind off self injury.
I really hope shit gets better for you, Bleed.
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09-25-2007, 05:29 PM
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So I kept it in for school just wore long gloves.. I kept yanking at it every time I got irratated and I ripped part of it out by accident.. I just cut the rest out like 30 minutes ago......
Ganggrene sounds distgusting...ick...
I put some peroxide on it and it seems fine it still hurts when I poke it though... The holes it left look really cool kinda like a bunch of small vampire bites up my arm......
And no I didnt do it to "fit it". I'm fine with my social statis as it is. And around here that ouldnt make me fit in... no one really cuts or self harm's... they just get into allot of fights and shit....
I dont know what I would do without all you G.netters you guys always give good advice/support...
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09-25-2007, 05:32 PM
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LaBelle you Instant messenger/ E mail are not on your profile.... My yah00 IM is Fightthefever at yah00 dot com.
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09-25-2007, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by BLEED REBELION!!!
Ganggrene sounds distgusting...ick...
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If you think it sounds disgusting... you should smell it.
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09-25-2007, 07:51 PM
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You've smelt Ganggrene??? Did you have it?
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09-25-2007, 07:57 PM
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What about necrotizing faciitis?!? I WANNA HEAR ABOUT NECROTIZING FASCIITIS!!!
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