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11-14-2007, 06:26 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Cimarron Hills, Colorado
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If I return, keep me here 'til I come back
I am a mother and a lover, and a fiery Hungarian wench(well half-blood anyway). I live in the vortex from hell- Colorado Springs, Colorado. I live and die to read Shakespeare, but don't ask this blonde head to quote you any. I like all genres of movies, and ultimately can choose no favorite. My wedding tune will be of Silke Bischoff's "Under Your Skin". My death tune is as of yet evovlving as I, unlike the seemed trend, do not wish to die, and my tastes are always morphing. However, should I go out, I wish to go out of natural cause, with my wife and daughter surrounding me. My casket will be of the Mighty Oak, inlain with black silk and white roses. My favorite outfit is a long, black silk bridal skirt I found at a thrift store. It matches my favorite black corset from State of Mind and ZZing so beautifully. I am actually quite happy where I am in life, and do not miss much from my childhood. Perhaps the freedom from responsibility. My ultimate favorite bands are The Cure, NIN, The Cruxshadows, Ego Likeness, New Skin, and Switchblade Symphony. I also like Eisbrecher, Faun and Projekt Pitchfork. I am all about knowledge and learning, but I have little faith in the Educational System. My daughter is being homeschooled for that reason. Why did I join? Perhaps a little change from the day to day paces of " between club and homemaker". If it hasn't dawned on the everyday goth brains already, I am blissfully female. I hope to meet a few of you soon. This fiery wench is taking her leave.
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11-14-2007, 07:00 PM
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#2
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Fascination Street
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Yay! Another Cure fan! You have good taste in... everything, it seems.
How old is your daughter? I'm not too big on homeschooling, but to each his/her own, I guess.
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11-14-2007, 07:18 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Cimarron Hills, Colorado
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Thank you much! I quite enjoy my musical taste.
My baby is preschool age, and my wife and I decided just recently that homeschooling is the best option, not only for us but also for her. It is most assuredly a task I am willing to take on.
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11-14-2007, 07:39 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 797
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Homeschooling for the win!
A suggestion I would have for you, is to research the philosophies of Victorian-era British educator, Charlotte Mason. Her methods of teaching a child are very progressive, freedom-oriented, romantic and, well, just down right Goth-y as education can get, if that's how you want to look at it. =P Having had a very pleasant experience as a home educated individual, I will give my blessing to your decision to avoid the State-controlled correctional institutes of the public education system.
Being in the United States (forgive me, as I'm not up on all the recent law changes), are you legally married to your wife, or is it more of a common law marriage? More power to you and your significant other either way! (=
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11-14-2007, 07:54 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Fascination Street
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Mmkay. I've never been homeschooled, so I guess I shouldn't judge... I'm just worried about the social aspects, but I'm sure you've got it all figured out.
Lemme guess, you got married up here?  Congrats, I'm very happy for you! *coughalsogaycough*
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11-14-2007, 08:04 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 797
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Originally Posted by Green.Lady
Mmkay. I've never been homeschooled, so I guess I shouldn't judge... I'm just worried about the social aspects, but I'm sure you've got it all figured out.
Lemme guess, you got married up here?  Congrats, I'm very happy for you! *coughalsogaycough*
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We're Goth, what social aspects?
Just kidding. Seriously, that is an overstated and well-refuted myth. Realistic socializing is not being shoved into a sanitized box with only members of the human populous that are of your age and demographic day-after-day. It's getting out and exploring the world and culture, with all sorts of individuals and environments. (=
On subject, welcome to the forums and congrats on your marriage!
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11-14-2007, 08:07 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Cimarron Hills, Colorado
Posts: 38
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Originally Posted by DepthsofSpace
Homeschooling for the win!
A suggestion I would have for you, is to research the philosophies of Victorian-era British educator, Charlotte Mason. Her methods of teaching a child are very progressive, freedom-oriented, romantic and, well, just down right Goth-y as education can get, if that's how you want to look at it. =P Having had a very pleasant experience as a home educated individual, I will give my blessing to your decision to avoid the State-controlled correctional institutes of the public education system.
Being in the United States (forgive me, as I'm not up on all the recent law changes), are you legally married to your wife, or is it more of a common law marriage? More power to you and your significant other either way! (=
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I gladly accept your generous blessings ^_^ , and absolutely will take the advice on methods of teaching.
As for our marraige, it is a common law marraige of six years, although we are thinking of travelling to romantic Vermont to have a legal civil union. Unfortunately for us *weeps*, it will not be recognized here in Colorado. At one point, we even considered options of moving to Canada, but there was just too much paperwork for our taste.
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11-14-2007, 08:12 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Cimarron Hills, Colorado
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Originally Posted by Green.Lady
Mmkay. I've never been homeschooled, so I guess I shouldn't judge... I'm just worried about the social aspects, but I'm sure you've got it all figured out.
Lemme guess, you got married up here?  Congrats, I'm very happy for you! *coughalsogaycough*
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Actually the prospective of homeschooling is a new one, and we are still picking our brains for socializing ideas, so any avenues of suggestion would be most welcome.
Are you happily wed, my dear?
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11-14-2007, 08:13 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Cimarron Hills, Colorado
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Originally Posted by DepthsofSpace
We're Goth, what social aspects?
Just kidding. Seriously, that is an overstated and well-refuted myth. Realistic socializing is not being shoved into a sanitized box with only members of the human populous that are of your age and demographic day-after-day. It's getting out and exploring the world and culture, with all sorts of individuals and environments. (=
On subject, welcome to the forums and congrats on your marriage!
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Thank you, and I appreciate the humorous and warmish welcome ^_-.
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11-14-2007, 08:29 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Fascination Street
Posts: 1,238
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Originally Posted by lilacgoddess
Actually the prospective of homeschooling is a new one, and we are still picking our brains for socializing ideas, so any avenues of suggestion would be most welcome.
Are you happily wed, my dear?
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Ah, not yet, I'm only sixteen, but perhaps one day.
In some places there are homeschooling groups that go on excursions together, but I'm not sure if your area would have one... It probably has some sort of network for homeschoolers, though. I'm not sure how far you are from Denver, but it probably has lots of options...
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11-14-2007, 08:33 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Cimarron Hills, Colorado
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Originally Posted by Green.Lady
Ah, not yet, I'm only sixteen, but perhaps one day.
In some places there are homeschooling groups that go on excursions together, but I'm not sure if your area would have one... It probably has some sort of network for homeschoolers, though. I'm not sure how far you are from Denver, but it probably has lots of options...
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I am only 45 minutes away from Denver, well, half an hour if I speed, hehe. I will look into that.
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11-14-2007, 10:24 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Fascination Street
Posts: 1,238
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Yay! Best of luck!
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We do wrong no-one forgets
Deliver me from evil
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11-15-2007, 09:59 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: London
Posts: 3,231
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Welcome, and enjoy the boards. I'm sure I shall look forward to your posts, you seem deliciously intelligent!
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11-15-2007, 10:17 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Happy Valley, Utah
Posts: 283
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Welcome! It's been a long time since I've heard mention of Silke Bischoff. I should dig them out and have a listen again...
I was homeschooled for most of my pre-highschool years. It has its good points and its bad points, like anything else.
Socialization is, in fact, a very real concern. Taking your kid to activities with other homeschoolers isn't enough. They're not usually regular enough, nor with a consistent enough attendance for kids to form any sort of meaningful relationship with each other. Also, these activities are usually pretty heavy on the adult supervision, which makes it hard for kids to figure out how to handle social situations on their own.
That said, there are worse things than being a bit socially clueless. As long as your kids pick up the basics of politeness and respect, they should make out okay once they get into the real world.
There's also a very real danger of imprinting your own personality and world-views on your child, to the detriment of their own, since you are their only real source of information and values.
I'm not trying to discourage you from homeschooling--I'm glad I was able to avoid several years in the public school system--just pointing out some potential pitfalls. Best of luck!
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11-15-2007, 11:36 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Back in Wisconsin(thinking about invading the south)
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I'd say a combination of both homeschooling and private (I'd be more inclined to private) schooling would be good, the problem I can't figure out is if it would be good home school during the earlier or latter years. If you can't afford private go with homeschooling all the way, but above all else do not spoil your child I've seen what spoiling a homeschooled child can do. Infact nomatter what don't spoil the child if you do it will remain incapable of seeing the whole story of somthing. It was truely a sad situation to have witnessed, the child was incapable of comprehending the problems of others because her mind was occupied with the pleasantries of her daily life, she never wanted to try and look into the darker picture of the world outside it's life because I truely believe it was too much for it to bear. I do wish it could have been different though she is a very bright individual, she just had absolutly no desire to see the world outside of her own. To this day I believe her parents are unaware of this, I do miss her.
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11-15-2007, 12:00 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Happy Valley, Utah
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Originally Posted by Renatus
I'd say a combination of both homeschooling and private (I'd be more inclined to private) schooling would be good, the problem I can't figure out is if it would be good home school during the earlier or latter years. If you can't afford private go with homeschooling all the way, but above all else do not spoil your child I've seen what spoiling a homeschooled child can do. Infact nomatter what don't spoil the child if you do it will remain incapable of seeing the whole story of somthing. It was truely a sad situation to have witnessed, the child was incapable of comprehending the problems of others because her mind was occupied with the pleasantries of her daily life, she never wanted to try and look into the darker picture of the world outside it's life because I truely believe it was too much for it to bear. I do wish it could have been different though she is a very bright individual, she just had absolutly no desire to see the world outside of her own. To this day I believe her parents are unaware of this, I do miss her.
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Amen! Far too many "home-schooled" kids spend their days doing--well, nothing productive. When they have to face the real world, they're completely unprepared. I have a niece who's heading down this path right now--it's disturbing to see a 13-year-old who knows literally nothing besides Harry Potter and Battlestar Galactica.
As far as private schooling, I think it would be better to homeschool first, and then send them to private school, rather than the other way around. The social learning becomes much more important closer to middle-school and high-school age, and by then homeschooling has (hopefully) instilled a proper love of learning.
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11-15-2007, 12:25 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Earth.
Posts: 8,001
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I'm not really liking how you sold yourself short with the whole "don't ask this blonde head" thing.
If you don't think you're smart, neither will I.
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11-15-2007, 02:21 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Cimarron Hills, Colorado
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Originally Posted by Underwater Ophelia
I'm not really liking how you sold yourself short with the whole "don't ask this blonde head" thing.
If you don't think you're smart, neither will I.
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Where would I be if I could not laugh at myself, my dear? I may not be a scholar, but I do know enough to get by, and certainly don't mind if you think that I think I'm not smart. Not to mention, if I am blonde may I not say so? Perhaps I was talking of a truly blonde head having memory problems. I would hardly call that selling myself short. That, my dear is humorous honesty.
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11-15-2007, 02:30 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: NoVA
Posts: 5,290
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COLORADO!!!!! Whoooo!
My fiance lives in Arr-vaa-duh.. 'k, I'm a retard. He lives in Arvada. Hopefully, I will be moving out there within the year.
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11-15-2007, 05:54 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Earth.
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Originally Posted by lilacgoddess
Where would I be if I could not laugh at myself, my dear? I may not be a scholar, but I do know enough to get by, and certainly don't mind if you think that I think I'm not smart. Not to mention, if I am blonde may I not say so? Perhaps I was talking of a truly blonde head having memory problems. I would hardly call that selling myself short. That, my dear is humorous honesty.
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I think you missed my point, but ok.
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11-15-2007, 05:59 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 797
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Originally Posted by Underwater Ophelia
I'm not really liking how you sold yourself short with the whole "don't ask this blonde head" thing.
If you don't think you're smart, neither will I.
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Ophelia: Sensitivity training; have you ever considered it? ^_-
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11-15-2007, 06:07 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Minnesota, USA
Posts: 4,448
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Welcome to the boards. I've always wanted to see the Rockies, and the secret city underneath Denver Intl airport.
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11-15-2007, 06:17 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Back in Wisconsin(thinking about invading the south)
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Eh that's just Ophelia you'll get used to her eventualy, took me about 700 posts if I remember correctly before I did. Oh and on my previous post I forgot to say welcome so I apologize for that. Welcome
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"Never overestimate the intellect of someone so foolish that they would exploit and perpetuate stupidity in the people around them, for they create their own damnation as they tear out and sell the pillars that support society as a whole, bringing it crashing down upon them."-me
“I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.”- Einstein
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11-15-2007, 06:32 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Harlem
Posts: 6,909
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Welcome, young goddess.
Do as thou wilt shall be the whole of the law.
You seem like decent folk.
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11-15-2007, 07:04 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Earth.
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Originally Posted by DepthsofSpace
Ophelia: Sensitivity training; have you ever considered it? ^_-
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No, because I know I'm plenty sensitive.
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