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11-25-2007, 04:06 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Australia
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Scars as Fashion
So it's common in today's society for bemishes such as scars or wrinkles or sun spots to be looked down upon as ugly I however find scars to be quite an attractive feature on people,obviously this is subject to the type and placing of scars as well as..festy-ness..
Anyway I'd be interested to hear everyone's opinions on scars:
Do you find them attractive/unattractive?
Any specific scars you like or dislike? ( Feel free to be graphic)
Also I'd like to see if anyone can give me some insight on a scarification procedure i'm interested in seeing if I can have, it would involve a fairly straight line scar being etched down from my forehead over my eyelid and down to my chin on one side of my face.
Logic dictates this would be a stupid idea and dangerous, but I'd like to know other people's thoughts on this, how dangerous they think it might be, if they know of any person or place that would perform such a procedure
I want to get this particular scarification done, because I used to have a scar on the left side of my face that almst exactly matches the one I described, unfortunately it's since faded away and I would like to have it "re-applied" 'cause I thought it looked cool, it made me feel sexy and it'd work well with an eye patch.
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11-25-2007, 05:41 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Mars
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Watch this vid for some scenes of the scarification procedure.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNoc--S1f5s
Personally, I think the whole scarification thing is abhorrent. You're going to grow old one day, look at your scar and realize what a total imbecile you were to have had that done.
I mean we, as a subculture, pay more particular attention to the corpse pallor of our skin than anything else, so in my opinion, that scarification thing is anything but beautiful.
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11-25-2007, 05:50 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: In the broken temple bells, in the ringing...
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Cutting over your eyelid to produce a scar purely for reasons of fashion/taste is quite possibly the most mindlessly stupid idea I have ever come across. Sorry, that's just my opinion. Not because of how it would look, since you clearly don't have a problem with that, having already had this scar. But the risk involved to make the scar deep enough to stay is very great.
Why would you want to basically try and blind yourself? The skin of the eyelid is very delicate, and not all that thick. The scar would fade there quite quickly if not very deep ( which it wouldn't be because you won't be able to cut very far without serious eye damage ). I cannot imagine you will find any form of professional who would do this for you, and letting anyone else do it ( including yourself ) is so foolish it doesn't even bear thinking about.
Please don't do it.
I don't really give a toss about scars either way. Yes, some do look " cool " because of their placement but they are accidents, usually very painful ones, and most people aren't happy about them being where they are. I know a guy who has had to have heart surgery, and has a massive linear scar down his chest which he absolutely hates. I do not find them repulsive , on others or myself.
I do not think promoting scarification in such a way is a good idea, as some may see it as a way of glorifying self mutilation for the wrong reasons, such as self harm to relieve emotional distress.
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11-25-2007, 07:52 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Earth.
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I have a scar I gave myself (let's overlook that part, shall we?) on my boob that I LOVE.
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11-25-2007, 09:48 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Minnesota, USA
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I got a very deep scar on my left arm from an accident when I was a wee lad. People like to poke it, I really don't care. Its just there.
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11-25-2007, 09:59 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Cimarron Hills, Colorado
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Hmm... Scarification. Nope, not for me. Now tattoos and piercings, HELL YES!
Scars themselves? I think that one should be proud of their scars, even self-made ones. I have quite a few scars that never faded away, and they remind me that just like any other event in my life, they too have made me who I am. I wear them proudly. If they fade, they fade and that is the end of that.
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11-25-2007, 10:23 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: In the broken temple bells, in the ringing...
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Yes but...deliberately getting a scar that will be going over the eyelid ? Come on..
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11-25-2007, 10:30 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
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I don't think he wants his eyelid scared. He just wants to look like Sub Zero from Mortal Kombat.
Have at it, dude. Good luck to ya.
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11-25-2007, 10:31 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Cimarron Hills, Colorado
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To each their own, some may like and fantasize about self-made battlescars.
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11-25-2007, 11:32 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: in love
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I think the "cool" factor in a scar is HOW you got it. Like, if you got one fighting off ninjas, that's friggin' cool. If you went home one day, got a blade, and started going at it...not as cool.
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11-25-2007, 11:37 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: UK
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Scarification it beautiful. I love scars and all other flaws that are deemed as "ugly".
How can you say scarification is abhorrent? Why tell someone that an aesthetic they desire is ugly? It isn't....just different.
Some people hate their scars, true. But not everyone is the same, it just depends on how you define beauty.
Plus, a scarification artist would not cut over someone's eyelid, they know aswell as we do that it's stupid.
Man, if you love your scar and it makes you feel attractive, go for it. You know why you did it and that's the most important thing.
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11-25-2007, 12:02 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: In the broken temple bells, in the ringing...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KontanKarite
I don't think he wants his eyelid scared. He just wants to look like Sub Zero from Mortal Kombat.
Have at it, dude. Good luck to ya.
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Are you sure?
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etched down from my forehead over my eyelid and down to my chin on one side of my face.
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11-25-2007, 12:05 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: In the broken temple bells, in the ringing...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TopHaggardDoll
Scarification it beautiful. I love scars and all other flaws that are deemed as "ugly".
How can you say scarification is abhorrent? Why tell someone that an aesthetic they desire is ugly? It isn't....just different.
Some people hate their scars, true. But not everyone is the same, it just depends on how you define beauty.
Plus, a scarification artist would not cut over someone's eyelid, they know aswell as we do that it's stupid.
Man, if you love your scar and it makes you feel attractive, go for it. You know why you did it and that's the most important thing.
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I didn't say it was abhorrent. I do not think it is. I just don't care either way how scars look. He obviously likes the position of it since he has had that scar before. If he likes it then fair do's.
I also did not say it would look ugly, I simply meant that doing it that close to the eye was stupid and dangerous. He said " over my eyelid " and I took that to mean that the eyelid would in some way be scarred. He did not specify so you do not know either.
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11-25-2007, 12:17 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: UK
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Quote:
Originally Posted by honeythorn
I didn't say it was abhorrent. I do not think it is. I just don't care either way how scars look. He obviously likes the position of it since he has had that scar before. If he likes it then fair do's.
I also did not say it would look ugly, I simply meant that doing it that close to the eye was stupid and dangerous. He said " over my eyelid " and I took that to mean that the eyelid would in some way be scarred. He did not specify so you do not know either.
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I was also referring to the post by valerius.
I thought he meant scarring his eyelid too, I just mentioned that a scarification artist wouldn't do it.
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11-25-2007, 12:33 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: The Icy Forest of New England
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I have a scar of an X on my boob that I like. I however dislike the many scars on my shoulders.
Scars can look alright, giving yourself scars for fashion is distasteful to me though.
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11-25-2007, 12:50 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
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I have a diamond-shaped keloid on my hand of which I'm not too fond. I usually wear a glove to cover it up.
Like Mon Coeur Noir said, most people agree that the coolness of a scar is derived from how one receives that scar, not from the aesthetics of the thing itself. Sub-Zero got his from Mortal Kombat- that's awesome. Were I to pay a substantial amount of money in order to create the illusion of cognate badass-ness on my part, I'd feel like a poseur.
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11-25-2007, 12:55 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: NoVA
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I am very ashamed of my scars.. self-inflicted, and some of them very nasty..
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11-25-2007, 01:05 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: El Paso, Texas/ Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua
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Scars that are not self-inflicted are cool. Why? Because they have a story behind them.
I would indeed like a scar from the forehead through the eye (without blinding my eye), but I would be cheating if I made someone do a procedure for that, and I'm sure as hell not going to get into hazards just to see if I get it.
I have a scar on the back of my ear all the way to the back of my neck. Everyone asks me how I got it, most people honestly suggest brain surgery and I'm pretty sure quite a number of morons believe in all seriousness that I had too much brain so they had to take some out (real thing many people have told me!!) because of course, that's just how the brain works, right?
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11-25-2007, 01:13 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: NoVA
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Scars that are self inflicted have stories, too. Though I am not proud of them, I see them as my battle scars.
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11-25-2007, 01:38 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: The computer desk
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I have thin, wiry scars from my cat scratching me. Everyone asks me how I got the one on my chest, I guess they want some dramatic tale of how I nearly escaped death with one long scar as a memento. They look disappointed when I tell them my cat did NOT want to go in that room.
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11-25-2007, 02:20 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Under your floorboards
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I have a few self inflicted ones from about 2 years ago (it was purely out of curiosity though -_-)
I dont really go out of the way to hide them, because why should I? They're a part of me now, weather I like that or not.
Does anyone have any advice on fading them though?
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11-25-2007, 02:37 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: In the broken temple bells, in the ringing...
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There is a great product called Bio oil. It is wonderful stuff. Smells nice as well. I used it on my stretchmarks ( which were the size of China and deeper than the Marianas trench ) and they have completely faded/turned white. If you can't get that, then get the usual stuff sold for reducing stretchmarks. Works a treat.
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11-25-2007, 02:39 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Down the Rabbit Hole
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ForgetThisLostLenore
I have thin, wiry scars from my cat scratching me. Everyone asks me how I got the one on my chest, I guess they want some dramatic tale of how I nearly escaped death with one long scar as a memento. They look disappointed when I tell them my cat did NOT want to go in that room.
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I have some of those too, including a nasty one on my knee. It really kills me to have to disappoint people with such a lame story.
I have a really 'nice' one over my eyebrow that I've been told looks like I got a beer bottle cracked on my head. What it really is, is from where my eyebrow piercing got infected and had to be taken out.
Which is apparently uncool. (Eye roll)
EDIT: Honeythorn, I want that Bio oil stuff!
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11-25-2007, 02:44 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Maryland
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Self inflicted scars are the worst. I don't cut anymore but It's very embarassing to have an armful of scars, especially in a professional job setting. It sort of proclaims to the world, "I have issues!" even though I don't anymore.
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11-25-2007, 02:50 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: a sneeze away from San Francisco
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My SI scars serve as a reminder of what I went through and why I don't do it anymore. They're a bit hard to explain to others, though. I have a ton of other scars from fights, biking, rock climbing, and some totally random incidents. Every scar has a story. I'm not ashamed of any of my scars except for on small raised scar over my heart. Lovely ex-boyfriend story that I won't get into. Scarification can be beautiful as art, but faux battle wounds are sort of sad IMHO. Tribal designs are cool but painful.
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