Whiny ass bitches

[Signe]

Personally, I came here because I am a serious gothic individual who likes to discuss quite dark topics, as my life is filled with so much despair. I have tried several different goth communities, however, I have found that most of them are full of members - and administrators - who are not really serious, mature grownups, but bored young people who like to go online to make fun of everybody else's agonies.

Anyway, I think if you are here to do nothing but bitch and whine and other crap like that, you can at least leave me alone or you can go to some other community. When I go to forums in general, it would be to discuss things or possibly if I am extremely upset or suicidal at the moment I might talk about despair and murder, but hey, that is me.

Well, I am sorry nobody has managed to make a serious gothic community for mature grownups yet or at least if they did, they did not find a way to get rid of all the people who come here to mock others and say stupid fucking things nobody cares about.

And no, I do not generally use the therm "whiny ass bitches", but hey, I get to experiment with language. Maybe you people here have as a habit to always be mean to people, which does sadly hurt the reputation of goths being unusually empathetic people, as they have oftenly suffered much themselves, but me or my friends surely never act like I have seen people act on this forum, I do not know if you people consider that normal behaviour, but whatever, I guess some people were never taught manners.

And to end this message, my favourite motto:
Hope - May not be warranted at this point

[Godslayer Jillian]

I hope you're not serious.
Serious mature people don't start threads about being suicidal for strangers to 'relate' and give unprofessional self-righteous advice. It's funny that you think the average egotistical teenage cutter is the epitome of maturity.

[††BlackRose††]

That's a good point. I'm with Godslayer Jillian on this one.
Look being mature isn't about whining about your life. If your life is crap then learn to live with it and then life will become what you want it to be. Whining does nothing.

[honeythorn]

Originally Posted by Signe

goths being unusually empathetic people, as they have oftenly suffered much themselves

What exactly makes you think only goths are unusually empathetic? What makes you think so many goths have suffered anything?

Hey, I was bullied for nearly a decade. But so were thousands of others in the world, and millions more going through it right now. How many of them are goths I wonder? Not a vast amount I'm willing to bet.
Does this make me more empathetic than anyone else who has been bullied? NO. It doesn't .

Listening to a particular type of music that appeals to you and the way you generally are does not make you any more empathetic than the person across the road.


If you dislike it so much here then why are you still around?

[Underwater Ophelia]

Is this serious?
I'm not making a joke, I really can't tell.

[StasisInDarkness]

Originally Posted by Signe

Personally, I came here because I am a serious gothic individual who likes to discuss quite dark topics, as my life is filled with so much despair.

Praytell, how much despair is "SO MUCH"? And why do you think we, the uber-empathetic Goths, are better equipped than, say, a therapist to counsel you?

We're not psychologists, and even if we were, Gothic.net is hardly the place to share one's mental illnesses. At least it's not the place to share them and expect sincere feedback.

That said, I know quite a few message boards that cater to those suffering from self-injury, depression, and eating disorders, amongst other mental disorders. These boards were designed with the express purpose of helping their members cope with whatever bothers them. There are trained staff members who moderate the boards and provide a therapeutic outlet to those in need.

Gothic.net was not designed for this purpose...at its core, it is a website focusing on a genre of music and its associated subculture. Its members are hardly qualified to deal with what you term "deep" subject matter, and although you are more than welcome to share whatever you are feeling, be fully prepared for the community to respond in a way which you feel is "immature".

On a personal level, I feel that the opposite is true: posting on the Internet about suicidality and homicidality is incredibly immature and attention-seeking.

Take that as you will.

[MollyMac]

You came here, we did not seek you out. Sorry we didn't put on the cufflinks for your welcome after the engraved invitation we did nto send to you. Understand that a public forum is just that- a public forum. We get all kinds, most of them are funny, intelligent, self-deprecating and open to new ideas. The others are like you.

Also, this is not a help forum- selfhelp or group therapy for the shit in your life. Seek people in your life to cry on the shoulder of. We have a dry shoulder policy here.

Bye-bye.

[HumanePain]

You never gave us chance really.

There are those of us here who are sympathetic, but starting off by lumping us all together and alienating us is poor strategy for making friends and reaching out to find someone you can relate to, to discuss deep subjects.

Small wonder you are in despair my friend, small wonder.

EDIT: So I went and looked at your introduction, which, I am sorry to say I missed when you joined, and saw that you actually did receive a warm welcome, so I am puzzled as to how you came to your conclusions in your opening post. Now I suspect you are just trying to be dramatic.

[Beneath the Shadows]

Originally Posted by Signe

I have tried several different goth communities, however, I have found that most of them are full of members - and administrators - who are not really serious, mature grownups, but bored young people who like to go online to make fun of everybody else's agonies.

Based on the rest of the drivel you've typed, it seems as if you'd fit into those site much better than here. So what's the problem?

[Crying_Crimson_Tears]

Originally Posted by HumanePain

You never gave us chance really.

There are those of us here who are sympathetic, but starting off by lumping us all together and alienating us is poor strategy for making friends and reaching out to find someone you can relate to, to discuss deep subjects.

Small wonder you are in despair my friend, small wonder.

EDIT: So I went and looked at your introduction, which, I am sorry to say I missed when you joined, and saw that you actually did receive a warm welcome, so I am puzzled as to how you came to your conclusions in your opening post. Now I suspect you are just trying to be dramatic.

I agree with what Humane has had to say. And everyone else for that matter. I know people welcomed you here with open arms. And right now you are being very dramatic. Which might I add is not the essence of mature in the context in which you're doing it. If you don't like us, go somewhere else.

[Godslayer Jillian]

I simply can't take Signe remotely serious for three main reasons:
He/she has been such an attention-whore in most posts. I mean, come on! In his other thread in the Whining section he picked a fight on us before he had even finished creating the thread, just read the initial post.
He/she sounds like nothing but a pretentious teenager that needs to exalt its own miserable persona by claiming to be an all-powerful goth, missing the whole point of the self-referential campy culture.
He/she claims to have serious problems and yet the dipshit has the nerve of putting an avatar of the Hot Topic bunny cunt saying "Cute but psycho things even out" and not find it offensive.

[Crying_Crimson_Tears]

You make a valid point Jillian.

I think we should let this thread rest and not give the attention whore what he/she wants.

[Lolly PopMuzik]

Originally Posted by Signe

Blah blah blah I'm goth therefore the universe should revolve around only me I take goff so seriously that I could qualify to be the bastard of Vyvian Blackthorne and Drac I hate you meanies BORK BORK BORK

Well, your first mistake was that you thought we were serious...*waits for someone to make a reference to the ignore button*

[Beneath the Shadows]

Ignore button.

[MollyMac]

Poor button. So sad, so alone. That button's apt to get all cuttery on us and make a dramatic post.

[Renatus]

Originally Posted by Lolly PopMuzik

Quote:
BORK BORK BORK

Classic, good ole Swedish chef, even funnier because she is Swedish.

[MollyMac]

I'll bet she knows ABBA and Ace of Base personally.. I'll be she saw "the Sign"...

[Signe]

Hey! I am a serious mature adult, comingto an internet forum to share my interests and problems, I did not ask to be mocked. I never did anything silly or anything to get attention, maybe you people never have experienced despair like I have.

When you are as sick and depressed as I am, you sometimes has to write things down, that is all I can do, really, I can be quite violent and self-destructive at times and well, that upsets people around me, so it is better if I get it all out by writing on the internet and see if anybody else has despair in life.

I am not perfect and I am a very intense person and that can be annoying at times, but I assure you, I am definitely as genuine and serious as one could possibly be. You are the ones being immature bitches, I did not come here for attention, I came here to see if there perhaps is one internet forum not filled with whiny bitches without serious problems.

I am not expecting that there will be any serious people here, most people I have seen here seem to be a bunch of immature losers. I never tried to get attention, all there is is that I have suffered extremely much in life and it is difficult to find places to talk about it, because it seems not so many others have gone through the severe mental illness, abuse, despair and terror that I have in life.

You are being so fucking immature, I mean, all I did was come here to see if there are any other people here with similar interests and problems as I, people who love black shiny clothes, dark screamy music, who are severely mentally ill and have been abused their whole lives.

I was not at all welcomed here, I was feeling very bad and wanted to write down some about how I really hate my life - instead of cutting myself and breaking furniture, which is very annoying for everybody around me - and what I get in return is people saying I did it for attention or something.

I do not fit in anywhere, because everywhere there are people talking crap and I am not interested in crap, I am a serious person. I did not do anything to you, all I want to do is be myself and discuss things, without being mocked or accused of seeking attention.

I am a very intelligent open-minded human being, but I have many problems. I was completely non-functioning a few months ago, as I was afraid of everything and I was released from the psychiatric clinic a few months ago and now I am trying to adjust to the world and all, but it is difficult, because everywhere I go, nobody seems to understand the serious problems people can have, so it is difficult to find anybody to talk to.

No, it is not immature or attention seeking to write about suicidality, internet is the only outlet I have. I do not think you understand what deep despair I am in, I feel like crap, all I can do is find other people online to talk to about it, but most of the people I come across seem to be crap.

Of course I am serious, I mean, I come to an internet community to try to discuss serious things, but all I get is harrassed, as I get most anywhere. I am trying to live in this world being myself, being honest and all that and that works all well, but it is all the other idiots that can not handle it, because people do not like honesty, they like fake boring people like Kerri and her whore friend.

I did not whine! That I called it "whining" in the subject was obviously sarcastic, I needed to write down some things and I did not get any serious response. I am not the average egotistical teenage cutter, I am a higly intelligent, emotional person, growing up with abuse and mental illness and I have suffered a lot in life and sometimes I can barely stand existing, so my only option is to try to find people to talk to about it.

Now if you can not take anything seriously, then go fuck yourselves or whatever

[IsolatedReptile]

I don't think anybody asks to be mocked.

Except for what weird guy who jerks off to it.

[Steppenwolf]

Originally Posted by Signe

I am a very intelligent open-minded human being, but I have many problems. I was completely non-functioning a few months ago, as I was afraid of everything and I was released from the psychiatric clinic a few months ago and now I am trying to adjust to the world and all, but it is difficult, because everywhere I go, nobody seems to understand the serious problems people can have, so it is difficult to find anybody to talk to.

Nobody got problems but you , right? That you were in a psychiatric clinic gives you the right to claim the WHOLE PAIN AND PROBLEMS for yourself .
Yummy ... Enjoy them ...

I have to laugh at you , m*th*rf*ck*r , you are funny as hell ...

(not that I read your post , a few here and there is enough...)

[Renatus]

Originally Posted by Signe

You are being so fucking immature, I mean, all I did was come here to see if there are any other people here with similar interests and problems as I, people who love black shiny clothes, dark screamy music, who are severely mentally ill and have been abused their whole lives.

For one thing I am taking you seriously, that's how I always take things unless evidence leads to a better alternative. But how is anyone here supposed to take you seriously when you don't listen to any sort of constructive criticism. Constructive criticism is supposed to help you but time and time again you just don't listen. We hear you, you just don't seem to want to hear us.

[Solumina]

Originally Posted by Signe

maybe you people never have experienced despair like I have.

I doubt that you have been through anything that is close to what other members of this board have been through so please shut up about how bad you have it

Originally Posted by Signe

When you are as sick and depressed as I am, you sometimes has to write things down, that is all I can do, really, I can be quite violent and self-destructive at times and well, that upsets people around me, so it is better if I get it all out by writing on the internet and see if anybody else has despair in life.

So write a poem and post that or a letter to whatever you hate. Don't just type out a bunch of crap and post it here (unless you want to go put it in the RANT THREAD, that is what it is for after all)

Originally Posted by Signe

I am not perfect and I am a very intense person and that can be annoying at times, but I assure you, I am definitely as genuine and serious as one could possibly be. You are the ones being immature bitches, I did not come here for attention, I came here to see if there perhaps is one internet forum not filled with whiny bitches without serious problems.

There are plenty of support forums for people with real problems, one of them may be a better choice for you

Originally Posted by Signe

I am not expecting that there will be any serious people here, most people I have seen here seem to be a bunch of immature losers. I never tried to get attention, all there is is that I have suffered extremely much in life and it is difficult to find places to talk about it, because it seems not so many others have gone through the severe mental illness, abuse, despair and terror that I have in life.

Many of the people on this board are very supportive and we have helped eachother get through a great deal by talking about things, not just listing everything that is wrong with our lives and having everyone else say "oh you poor thing, you are so strong to have gone through that". Trust me there are many people on this board who have been through hell, don't mock their pain by saying your pain is greater.

Originally Posted by Signe

You are being so fucking immature

Does this all include the people who were kind to you and welcomed you to this place? How about those who gave you a chance to redeem yourself after numerous posts that were selfserving and attention seaking? Or those who, dispite the fact that you keep acting like a child, have been kind and polite in their attempts to guide you?

Originally Posted by Signe

I was not at all welcomed here.

Go look at your intro thread. That was a warm welcome by our standards

Originally Posted by Signe

I do not fit in anywhere, because everywhere there are people talking crap and I am not interested in crap, I am a serious person. I did not do anything to you, all I want to do is be myself and discuss things, without being mocked or accused of seeking attention.

Right you are so serious and not interested in crap that you act like a spoiled brat simply beacue we didn't give you the type of attention that you wanted

Originally Posted by Signe

I am a very intelligent open-minded human being, but I have many problems. I was completely non-functioning a few months ago, as I was afraid of everything and I was released from the psychiatric clinic a few months ago and now I am trying to adjust to the world and all, but it is difficult, because everywhere I go, nobody seems to understand the serious problems people can have, so it is difficult to find anybody to talk to.

Or you haven't been able to grasp that other people have equally serious problems?

Originally Posted by Signe

No, it is not immature or attention seeking to write about suicidality, internet is the only outlet I have. I do not think you understand what deep despair I am in, I feel like crap, all I can do is find other people online to talk to about it, but most of the people I come across seem to be crap.

You are new to this forum, we are not your friends and we really don't know much at all about you so yeah we are going to think of it as attention seeking. If someone just walked up to you and said "Hey I'm so and so. I have a bunch of problems" and goes on to list said problems, the first thing that pops into your head is "why is he/she telling me this?" Most of the time people are going to think that if someone is just going to give out this info that it is because they want attention.

(Oh and suicidality is not a word, suicide or suicidal tendencies would have been what you were looking for.)

Originally Posted by Signe

Of course I am serious, I mean, I come to an internet community to try to discuss serious things, but all I get is harrassed, as I get most anywhere. I am trying to live in this world being myself, being honest and all that and that works all well, but it is all the other idiots that can not handle it, because people do not like honesty, they like fake boring people like Kerri and her whore friend.

You didn't try to discuss things or you would have added to one of the ongoing threads about peoples' disorders or started a thread asking if anyone else has such and such problem and if they have any tips for dealing with said problem, not just listing all of your problems in a badly worded mini-rant

Originally Posted by Signe

I am not the average egotistical teenage cutter, I am a higly intelligent, emotional person, growing up with abuse and mental illness and I have suffered a lot in life and sometimes I can barely stand existing, so my only option is to try to find people to talk to about it.

Isn't that what the average egotistical teenage cutter says about themself?

Originally Posted by Signe

Now if you can not take anything seriously, then go fuck yourselves or whatever

You have shown time and again that you are unable to seriously talk about anything other than how much the world must hate you so why should we be serious? Not to mention that we actually like to have a bit of fun with things. The members of this board support each other when things are hard but we aren't just going to up and do that for someone we don't know. Get over yourself and if you aren't going to change then please get the fuck out.

[Signe]

Whatever, whatever, y'all, I do not even bother reading through your worthless insults anymore. I happen to be used to talking openly with strangers about anything, including mental illnesses and despair, but apparently you are not used to that and you were uncomfortable with me bringing these subjects up like this.

Peace and love<3

[Underwater Ophelia]

Originally Posted by Signe

Whatever, whatever, y'all, I do not even bother reading through your worthless insults anymore. I happen to be used to talking openly with strangers about anything, including mental illnesses and despair, but apparently you are not used to that and you were uncomfortable with me bringing these subjects up like this.

Peace and love<3

Are you reading anything we're writing?
You're really not making sense, here.
Why don't you just apologize for acting like an asshole, and move on?

[Solumina]

Originally Posted by Signe

Whatever, whatever, y'all, I do not even bother reading through your worthless insults anymore. I happen to be used to talking openly with strangers about anything, including mental illnesses and despair, but apparently you are not used to that and you were uncomfortable with me bringing these subjects up like this.

Peace and love<3

I'm not fucking insulting you, I'm trying to get you to understand how your posts sound from the other side.


...Asshat (oops I guess I did insult you)



I feel like I'm channeling EPS here and I have no idea where it is coming from