Your means of defence

[Apathy's_Child]

Originally Posted by CptSternn

I'm a brawler. This is Ireland. We like to fight. 99% of the time people here don't use any weapons, but there is the random knifing and the occasional a bottling.

Must be all that American TV and movies you guys watch.

[Deadmanwalking_05]

Training does have it's place but playing it by ear has worked out well for me over the years.

(I'm still alive I mean)

And no I'm not above fighting dirty....it works

[Despanan]

I think I may be one of the few people here who's actually been assaulted with a gun, and I can tell you this, the best line of defense is thinking.

I got jumped and mugged by two guys while I was outside digging in my car for a DVD. one guy just stood there and watched, while the other smacked me in the face repeatedly with the front end of a pistol. Didn't ask for anything first, just did what seemed to be completely random assault with a firearm.

Looking back, I probably could have taken him in a fist fight, I might've even been able to take the gun away from him, but in the end it was better to just start yelling at him (I think I said something like "What the fuck is wrong with you asshole?") and give him a couple of bucks instead of pulling out my wallet and letting him take all $250 (he only got 40). After all, he had a gun and I don't know whether or not his buddy was armed.

In that situation, being smart and maybe a little paranoid would've been better protection than all the pistols and knives in the world. Keeping my head about me while the assault was going on might have saved my life and definitely impacted how much they were able to steal from me.

None the less, I always carry a switchblade now, and I keep a SAP Baton in my car. Just because it didn't help then doesn't mean it won't help in the future. My best defense however, is being prepared for it to happen again always.

[Deadmanwalking_05]

It pays to keep your head on a swivel.

That would save you more trouble than shooting or fighting someone.

[my dark anus]

I have only been in one life or death situation, and fortunately I was able to use words to get out of it. Might not be that lucky next time.

[jack_the_knife]

I don't like talking my way out of violent situations. If someone gets physical with me, they can bargain with a little more than just a couple of bruises. If someone pulls a knife on me, I won't hesitate to pull mine on them. Most muggers don't expect a fight or even the slightest resistance.

[Jonathan]

Mirroring the other comments about avoiding.
Most of the time, problems like this can be avoided by some basic situational awareness. Don't look at your shoes while you're walking, if there's something bad up ahead get on the other side of the street.

I am not interested in fighting. If someone makes a bad decision, then I'm going to do whatever it takes to make sure I get home to the people I care about. I carry a pocket folder. I will deploy every advantage I am capable of, if I were to find myself in a situation where my life or the life of someone else was being threatened. I am not looking for a level playing field, or a contest of skill with a random assailant or street gang.

Martial arts are the arts of Mars. Mars is the god of war. War is killing people and breaking things.

[badteccy]

Originally Posted by Petronius

What are your means of defense?

My big ass, I sit on people if they sass me.


Nah.....
Probably my means of defense is my friend Kai, I'm not easily scared (this is not always a good thing), and the two of us have been known to get into potentially dangerous situations when we go to philly.
However, my friend is incredibly responsible and smart so I always feel safe with him and trust his judgement.

[PortraitOfSanity]

I spent roughly a year backpacking around Canada. The heaviest "weapon" we carried was a survival knife. The biggest danger for us was grizzlies (though we did actually get shot at once, but that was because we were somewhere we shouldn't have been...), and usually grizzlies will run away if they see humans from a distance. The only time you're likely to be attacked, is if you stumble upon a grizzly, and startle it. And then it doesn't matter what you're carrying, you're probably fucked anyway, from what I heard, the Mounties use a .50 Barret to hunt grizzlies that get too comfortable coming into towns. Hunters always asked us why we were walking through the woods banging pots together

I guess the moral of the story is brains over brawn.

[Joker_in_the_Pack]

My line of defense? Abso-fucking-lutely anything. I may live in a decent neighborhood now, but I wasn't always here. I like spending times in the lousy neighborhoods (all the good shows go on there) and yeah, I've been mugged and attacked.

Talking your way out doesn't always work. If you're being robbed, seriously, JUST GIVE THEM THE MONEY. $50 isn't worth being shot.

Last scrap I got into, musta been two years ago, I came out on top only because I wasn't completely drunk. Yes, I was drunk, he was just worse off. A few punches to the nose will do someone if you hit them hard enough.

[jack_the_knife]

Originally Posted by Joker_in_the_Pack

A few punches to the nose will do someone if you hit them hard enough.

I've found punches to the throat to be more effective.

[Joker_in_the_Pack]

Originally Posted by jack_the_knife

I've found punches to the throat to be more effective.

Yeah but a punch to the nose won't usually be construed as attempted murder.

[Deadmanwalking_05]

Why screw around hitting them in the nose or throat when you can drop somebody with a well placed punch or elbow to the temple?

[Sadist Sagittarius]

1st line would be avoid.
2nd I'd run like hell.
3rd would be kick to the nuts if they aren't armed, and then run.

After that I'd do absolutely everything within my power to kill them.

[ThreeEyesOni]

Originally Posted by Deadmanwalking_05

Why screw around hitting them in the nose or throat when you can drop somebody with a well placed punch or elbow to the temple?

Because that can kill them, and unless you have very good evidence that they were trying to kill you and were capable of doing so... well, you'd be facing accidental homicide charges at best.

I've got just over a decade's training in one Okinawan martial arts, so frankly speaking I'm not generally concerned with violence. It crosses my mind less than average simply because most direct physical conflicts are within a scope that I can easily handle. Stuff beyond that (like, for instance, armed gang violence and mugging-heavy zones) I avoid as habit and therefor also don't worry about.

That said, I like martial arts training. I'm not currently active in the same organization, but I keep it fresh and like to analyze new methods or reactions to various circumstances. I'm also interested in many forms of armed combat, largely out of curiosity; I'm debating getting one of these (Kanabō) just to experiment around with.

[PortraitOfSanity]

You can kill with a 2 strike sequence to the nose. One strike at the base of the nose, which fractures the skull and also the cartilage of the nose. The next blow pushes the nose cartilage into said hole. Lights out.

[ThreeEyesOni]

Originally Posted by PortraitOfSanity

You can kill with a 2 strike sequence to the nose. One strike at the base of the nose, which fractures the skull and also the cartilage of the nose. The next blow pushes the nose cartilage into said hole. Lights out.

And then you better plant a gun on them, because otherwise you go to jail.

I can kill you by ripping your throat out with my teeth. That doesn't make it a good idea, though, for many reasons. The least (?) of which is the fact that it's a hard thing to make seem like self defense.

[Vivi]

Would an empty wallet in an obvious place and a well-hidden full wallet make much difference if you were mugged?

[PortraitOfSanity]

Originally Posted by ThreeEyesOni

And then you better plant a gun on them, because otherwise you go to jail.

I can kill you by ripping your throat out with my teeth. That doesn't make it a good idea, though, for many reasons. The least (?) of which is the fact that it's a hard thing to make seem like self defense.

You were saying how a blow to the temple would kill, I thought you were saying getting hit in the nose wouldn't. A self-defense argument doesn't mean you can't use lethal force after all.

[LaBelleDameSansMerci]

But it's still best not to use lethal force if it can be avoided. One does not want to unnecessarily kill someone. Break their legs before you break their life.

[freddy666]

my final line of defense line would be kicking them in the genetals i have been known to kick hard.

but i have never been in a situation like that. i live in a very safe neighborhod
and only places i go are school, various stores, occasionaly ovie theaters and the beach. one on the beach we have been mugged. my mom and i were in the ocean when some guys grabed the beach bag and ran but since the money was in the car and nothingvaluble was in it they just dropped it behind some sand dunes and by the time we came out of the ocean they were gone.

[LaBelleDameSansMerci]

When my parents and I were skiing once, someone broke into our car and stole a bag full of dead ski wax.

[ArtificialOne]

.40 S&W, concealed weapons permit.

Avoidance. Don't go anywhere stupid, yeah you have the right to be stupid, but try some fore thought. Like not going through the park at 3 am, etc, etc. Doesn't matter if you're 4'5 or 7'5, you can't fight back if you can't see it.

Common sense is the best self defense.

http://www.amazon.com/Law-Self-Defen.../dp/0966511913

If you have a handgun, make sure you read the laws on self defense using a weapon. I would like to say lots about it, but laws and liability..
every state has different laws and make sure you're aware of them.

[Deadmanwalking_05]

Well Spoken Artificial one.

[ashley12]

There are so many types of pepper spray on the market today that it has become confusing for you to decide which one to get. There are three basic chemical compounds that compose these defensive sprays.