Study of Human nature in conflict.

[Deadmanwalking_05]

Now that most of the unpleasntness has been expressed on both sides of this issue... I would like to come clean with my true intentions.

I mentioned before about studying human nature (been a few years back)

The exchanges with myself and others on here can be seen as a microcosim of what has been going on in the world as of late (The two wars my country has been engaged in with countries of the Middle East).

I am by all means an afront to many of you,my ideas,my speech,the way I dress,as well as the way I act toward your ideas and so on.

I am a product of my background,as you are of yours.

Our ideas conflict with eachother.

Where as I am in the minority you have eachother for support.

The more I say against the ideas of yours the more stength you show in support for eachother.

I am seen as the attacker (rightly so, I show up with the intention of causing trouble) and as a result you re-enforce eachother in an act of defense (which you are justified in doing).

*Some if not most of you have caught on to this I think*

When I post on a subject it is either ignored (no response) or swamped with people telling me how my ideas are wrong.

I answer back in my own "defense" and your resolve is strengthed even more to throw the invader out or to humliate said "Invader" into full retreat (Comments like "no one here likes you why don't you just leave?" for example)

When I persist in my actions (posting on this forum) the gap in the divide is widened.

When I request a truce under my terms I am met with a challenge to meet your requirements (rightly so I might add).

And because I fail to meet those requirements (something to the effect of Nixion's strategy of saving face or "an honorable withdrawl" during the later stages of the Vietnam conflict) more demands are made that I make amends your way which furthers my "Resolve" to stay the course as Dubya' said about my generations Vietnam.

My findings are that because neither side will give in the "Conflict" will continue on (An unending war as it were) until one side gives in or until both are so exhausted to the point that neither side wins.

*What my country faces in the middle east for example*

I doubt many of you will give this thread any thought,some might think of it as another trolling done by me,while others will see what I'm getting at and understand it completely,I'll let you be the judge.

My goal in this was to measure the reactions I got from the crowd and enter that into my findings on the subject.

Finding #1: Interventionalism leads to blow back.

Finding #2 : Said blow back leads to wars.

Finding #3: Said wars will continue to go on until one side or the other caves in or both are completely destroyed.

Finding #4: Narrow mindedness can be on both sides of a conflict and both sides will see themselves as the victim no matter who starts said conflict.

(Example : The U.S. interviened in the Middle East,they in turn attack us because our military is on their soil,we attack them because of the blow back we caused ,the result is a war without end).


Take care everybody

And I hope if anything you have learned something besides What I have already said.

*DMW Walks over to an awaiting Chopper takes a seat inside*

"Ron Paul was right you know,and it's been a lovely fucking war!"

*Chopper takes off*

[Grausamkeit]

Originally Posted by Apathy's_Child

This thread alone is proof that the guy's craving for attention is bordering on tragic. He's too dumb to process the knowledge you guys are trying to offer him, and too thick-skulled to question his own rightness about absolutely anything. Ignoring his ass is the surest way to piss him off. Insults just feed into his victim complex, and engaging him in a debate merely reassures him that you are attentive to his presence.

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[HumanePain]

Originally Posted by Deadmanwalking_05

I am a product of my background,as you are of yours.

There is another dimension to our existence: yes we are a product of our environment, but we also have the freedom to think, and to change ourselves regardless of our upbringing. Rather than trying to conquer others (I speak as metaphorically as you did), face the ultimate and most difficult challenge: change yourself.

Rather than adopt ideologies of others blindly, think about the entire process and your real place in it:

1) You gain a sense of belonging by clinging to an organization larger than yourself, to achieve a sense of purpose. In your case it is the NRA and a brotherhood/sisterhood of gun owners. I too belong to these entities but do not promulgate it to make myself feel important. I function within these entities separate from this forum because they have little to do with each other. Gnet is intended for a completely different social strata. Your promoting gun ownership here is as appropriate as promoting gun ownership on a mathematics forum dedicated to the application of Maxwell's Equations.

2) This being the case, realize the context of your attempted adoption into this arena. The majority here have different interests. If you genuinely wish to be welcome, you must demonstrate similar interests and make sensible contributions to those interests. Instead you continually attempt to shoehorn an undesired topic into this forum. This will not lead to a "battle until both are destroyed" as you say colorfully, but will only lead to you being continually ignored. The majority will carry the day regardless of your unrelated posts. You must understand this if you are to progress to the next step:

3) If you think about things, think about others and think about yourself, you will realize that you do not need to attach yourself to larger entities to feel self worth, but that you do belong; you belong to the human race, you belong to those that think, and you belong to countless other larger entities by de facto . Now having realized this, you may still belong to larger entities but now you can do so for the right reasons, to help them achieve some goal. Now you must look at their ultimate goals and evaluate whether or not you still wish to participate and support them.

4) One can participate in these forums without agreeing with them, but one must truly listen to what others are saying, demonstrate respect (once earned you can tease the hell out of us!) but also demonstrate that you can think and learn, not merely parrot another's agenda.

[AshleyO]

Originally Posted by Deadmanwalking_05

Now that most of the unpleasntness has been expressed on both sides of this issue... I would like to come clean with my true intentions.

I mentioned before about studying human nature (been a few years back)

The exchanges with myself and others on here can be seen as a microcosim of what has been going on in the world as of late (The two wars my country has been engaged in with countries of the Middle East).

We didn't need your study for this to prove that the wars are based on misunderstanding and cultural differences coupled with business interests and if you've dedicated 2 years of study to post it on a forum in one thread, your data fucking sucks. Your anthropological approach is garbage and pretty offensive to the science of Anthropology.

I am by all means an afront to many of you,my ideas,my speech,the way I dress,as well as the way I act toward your ideas and so on.

I am a product of my background,as you are of yours.

Our ideas conflict with eachother.

You're an affront because you want to use the government as a way to preserve your CULTURE and extrovert it onto people you don't even know. That's called state funded ethnocide. You don't understand that, so I wont elaborate any further.

Where as I am in the minority you have eachother for support.

That's the operating procedure of socialism. It invokes the community for support. You're just anti-social.

The more I say against the ideas of yours the more stength you show in support for eachother.

No, you have BAD illegitimate ideas and most of us are reasonably intelligent. I don't see where you get this idea that we're all friends. I fight with a lot of people on here, not just you.

I am seen as the attacker (rightly so, I show up with the intention of causing trouble) and as a result you re-enforce eachother in an act of defense (which you are justified in doing).

What's most fucked up about this is that Gothic.net will NEVER ban you out of spite because your presence here makes it harder for us to enjoy this forum. You want to talk about unfair representation of the government, then look no further than G.net taking up for ONE person while it ignores the will of the masses, even though you are destructive to the morale of this board. Pretty fucking Republican, really.

*Some if not most of you have caught on to this I think*

When I post on a subject it is either ignored (no response) or swamped with people telling me how my ideas are wrong.

Because they are.

I answer back in my own "defense" and your resolve is strengthed even more to throw the invader out or to humliate said "Invader" into full retreat (Comments like "no one here likes you why don't you just leave?" for example)

Those comments are what we have left after all attempts to reason with you are exhausted. YOU started it.

When I persist in my actions (posting on this forum) the gap in the divide is widened.

When I request a truce under my terms I am met with a challenge to meet your requirements (rightly so I might add).

Fuck YOUR terms. We shouldn't have to answer to you, you self interested, selfish prick.

And because I fail to meet those requirements (something to the effect of Nixion's strategy of saving face or "an honorable withdrawl" during the later stages of the Vietnam conflict) more demands are made that I make amends your way which furthers my "Resolve" to stay the course as Dubya' said about my generations Vietnam.

We WILL NOT pardon your idiocy, you insane victim.

My findings are that because neither side will give in the "Conflict" will continue on (An unending war as it were) until one side gives in or until both are so exhausted to the point that neither side wins.

We have no interest in being friendly to the privilege of the few.

*What my country faces in the middle east for example*

No. America is in a war against culture in the interest of economic gains.

[Vince]

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i stayed up way too late last night doing...things...so i'll be the first to admit that i'm not yet quite working on full capacity here...so forgive me if i've read this wrong...

...did i just read DMW was performing an experiment and used GNet and all of her netizens as his subject?

[AshleyO]

I doubt many of you will give this thread any thought,some might think of it as another trolling done by me,while others will see what I'm getting at and understand it completely,I'll let you be the judge.

Dude, your shit is NOT legitimate. You self interested FUCK. The community should NEVER FUCKING EVER have to accommodate your self interests you fascist!

My goal in this was to measure the reactions I got from the crowd and enter that into my findings on the subject.

Finding #1: Interventionalism leads to blow back.

Finding #2 : Said blow back leads to wars.

Finding #3: Said wars will continue to go on until one side or the other caves in or both are completely destroyed.

Finding #4: Narrow mindedness can be on both sides of a conflict and both sides will see themselves as the victim no matter who starts said conflict.

The problem here is that you want the community to accommodate your own interests and we're saying that it shouldn't. You want us to like you despite you being a petulant and ignorant fuck.

(Example : The U.S. interviened in the Middle East,they in turn attack us because our military is on their soil,we attack them because of the blow back we caused ,the result is a war without end).

It's not war without end. Remove the economic interests of invading the middle east and you have no war. Like it or not, the United States IS the fucking bad guys in this war.

Take care everybody

And I hope if anything you have learned something besides What I have already said.

*DMW Walks over to an awaiting Chopper takes a seat inside*

"Ron Paul was right you know,and it's been a lovely fucking war!"

*Chopper takes off*

God. Is this evidence that you will go away? I for one hope so. Please, go shoot a gun or smoke some weed or something.

[AshleyO]

Originally Posted by Vince

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i stayed up way too late last night doing...things...so i'll be the first to admit that i'm not yet quite working on full capacity here...so forgive me if i've read this wrong...

...did i just read DMW was performing an experiment and used GNet and all of her netizens as his subject?

If he did, it wasn't informed consent. In Anthropology, you can literally lose all credibility pulling shit like that. That's why Deadman is a fucking stupid redneck and not a scientist writing books on community relations.

[HumanePain]

Originally Posted by AshleyO

...That's why Deadman is a fucking stupid redneck and not a scientist writing books on community relations.

That is another facet of the need to feel self worth. It is a manifested inferiority complex. The attachment to gun ownership, the "I am scientifically studying you" it is all a self defense mechanism employed against the social rejection that he fails to understand is driven by his continual inward driven thought process, instead of genuinely interacting and caring about others.

[AshleyO]

Sick 'em, H_P. This cat's damaged goods.

He NEEDS therapy.

[Vince]

Originally Posted by AshleyO

If he did, it wasn't informed consent. In Anthropology, you can literally lose all credibility pulling shit like that. That's why Deadman is a fucking stupid redneck and not a scientist writing books on community relations.

Interesting. i'm calling bullshit either way. This isn't the first time in the history of GNet someone has pulled something like this or something very similar. Hell at one point years ago even i thought about doing it as an April's Fool prank (i can't recall if i had planned it to happen here or somewhere else...).

[Timeless Rebellion]

He is now officially on my ignore list.
I can only urge the rest of you to do the same.

[Alan]

"I was a troll all along.... no wait! I was an anthropologist all along! Hell yeah, that'll learn 'em!"


How long till he comes back as a right-wing nutjob, and then we ask him didn't his little 'experiment' already end, and he says "12-15-12!!!! you believed that? I was trolling you! 12-15-12!!!"

[Ben Lahnger]

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Besides, he thinks 401k is his mother's bra size.

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[AshleyO]

*facepalmgrin*

[Grausamkeit]

Ben, that is fucking hilarious!

[AshleyO]

I don't want to speak too soon, but it might look like he's gone.

[HumanePain]

He'll be back. The reason is that when his attention motivation isn't satisfied elsewhere, he knows he can at least get negative attention here. Some response is better than none when one is trying to validate oneself somehow.

I hope he climbs out of Maslow's Basement someday.

[Vince]

Nah, i'm sure he's festering somewhere all the while thinking about us. He can never leave for good we give him far too much attention.

i don't mind if he comes back his over-the-top childish idiocy is rather amusing.

Edit: Not quite as amusing and entertaining as SirHelpmann though...now that was fun. xD

[Alan]

Out of all the things he did, it fucking annoys me the most that he thinks there's a 'human nature' to be studied.

[HumanePain]

Originally Posted by Alan

Out of all the things he did, it fucking annoys me the most that he thinks there's a 'human nature' to be studied.

Do you mean because he didn't start with himself first? I agree if that is the case. If one does not understand the aberrations in the microscope first then one cannot see objectively. Understand your own bias, tune them out and then look at others.

Is that what you meant?

[Alan]

What I mean is that if he thinks there is such a thing as fundamental human nature, he is doing the sociological equivalent of using a telescope to 'observe' the aether.

[Spooky Spencer]

Originally Posted by Alan

What I mean is that if he thinks there is such a thing as fundamental human nature, he is doing the sociological equivalent of using a telescope to 'observe' the aether.

:: quietly puts a comic away in a protective sleeve, files it away in a long box, selects another, removes it from the plastic, and continues to read ::

[BelaRaian]

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[ceb]

Wow. What a load of crap. Someone pass the T.P. and flush this shit.

[ape descendant]