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03-06-2006, 09:39 PM
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#5826
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Massachusetts
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Well, when I say real, I mean original.
My father. He can be wrong, he's not infallible.
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03-06-2006, 09:42 PM
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#5827
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Columbus,Ohio
Posts: 404
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The beatniks pre-dated the Hippies,I'm sure.
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03-06-2006, 09:53 PM
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#5828
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 3,421
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Originally Posted by Xnguela
I assume it's because the movement was based on beat poetry?
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That would be my best guess.
But I was told the 'nik' came in like sputnik, referring to russians, because they were generally disliked.
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03-06-2006, 09:55 PM
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#5829
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Australia. Finally back home.
Posts: 957
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Yeah, I think that the beatniks where around about 5-10yrs before the hippies.
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03-06-2006, 09:57 PM
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#5830
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Australia. Finally back home.
Posts: 957
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Xnguela
I assume it's because the movement was based on beat poetry?
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Someone once told me that it was actually because the beatniks were a political movement and they felt "beaten". But then again, that could be a load of bulltish
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03-06-2006, 11:45 PM
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#5831
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 1,055
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Well, I'm packing up and moving along for a little while. I'll be offline after tomorrow for awhile because me and the Mr are bringing the Bump home for some family visits. We're heading out to Missouri, and then we'll hit LA. I will be back and posting in April.
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03-06-2006, 11:47 PM
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#5832
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: London, the loneliest city, England
Posts: 435
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Originally Posted by Blushing Heliophobe
Well, I'm packing up and moving along for a little while. I'll be offline after tomorrow for awhile because me and the Mr are bringing the Bump home for some family visits. We're heading out to Missouri, and then we'll hit LA. I will be back and posting in April.
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Have a good time.
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"Because in the end, everything we do
is just everything weve done." - Corey Taylor/Stone Sour
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03-07-2006, 12:36 AM
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#5833
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Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Right Here
Posts: 3,442
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blushing Heliophobe
Well, I'm packing up and moving along for a little while. I'll be offline after tomorrow for awhile because me and the Mr are bringing the Bump home for some family visits. We're heading out to Missouri, and then we'll hit LA. I will be back and posting in April.
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Be Careful & Stuff..
We'll miss You and the Bump..
Make sure the Mr. takes good care of both of you..
* Big Hugs*
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03-07-2006, 05:22 AM
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#5834
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Um, lower, oh yeah, uh, uh ... YES THERE!
Posts: 6,738
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Originally Posted by Blushing Heliophobe
I will be back and posting in April.
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Wow, BH, I'll miss you. Travel safe and have fun. And I want you, the Mr. and the bump (cute little thing that he is) to all arrive back in one peice each. We'll look forward to seeing you sign on and tell us all about the trip in April.
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As the poets have mournfully sung,
death takes the innocent young,
the rolling in money,
the screamingly funny,
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03-07-2006, 05:54 AM
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#5835
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 1,055
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*blushes*
Well, I've still got one day left, but yall are definitely increasing my "feeling loved" internal counter. Shucks...
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03-07-2006, 05:57 AM
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#5836
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Um, lower, oh yeah, uh, uh ... YES THERE!
Posts: 6,738
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Xnguela
I assume it's because the movement was based on beat poetry?
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Xng, that is correct. The Beat Generation was built on a culture based on Beat poetry and counter-culture writers. Jack Kerouac is probably the best known figure at the center of the movement. Allow me to quote the above referenced Wikipedia article:
The adjective "beat" (introduced to the group by hustler Herbert Huncke) had the connotations of "tired" or "down and out", but Kerouac added the paradoxical connotations of "upbeat", "beatific", and the musical association of being "on the beat". Kerouac later wrote several articles pertaining to his coining of the term, sometimes with conflicting information, but (novelist John Clellon) Holmes recalled him explaining: "like we're a generation of furtives. You know, with an inner knowledge there's no use flaunting on that level, the level of the 'public', I mean a kind of beatness...because we all really know where we are"
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Echoes of the Beat Generation run throughout all the forms of alternative/counter culture that have existed since then (e.g. "hippies", "punks", etc). The Beat Generation can be seen as the first modern "subculture".
And an additional clarifying line from the same article: The term Beatnik was coined by Herb Caen of the San Francisco Chronicle on April 2, 1958 as a derogatory term, and was probably a reference to the recent Russian satellite Sputnik.
My favorite book about the San Francisco hippie counter-culture of the 60's is Tom Wolfe's "The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test". In it, the hippies clearly pay homage to Kerouac, Alan Ginsberg and the Beat Generation as the source and inspiration for their movement.
Interestingly enough, after 37 years of planning, producer/director Francis Ford Coppola is ready to bring Kerouac's seminal novel On the Road to the theatres. Stay tuned to JackKerouac.com for more details on the On the Road movie, including casting choices and release date information.
The only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn, like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars..."
-- Jack Kerouac, "On The Road
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Lead me not into temptation ... follow me, I know a shortcut!
As the poets have mournfully sung,
death takes the innocent young,
the rolling in money,
the screamingly funny,
and those who are very well hung.
Your days are numbered - 26,280 per person on average - 2,000,000,000 heartbeats ... tick, tick, tick
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03-07-2006, 07:00 AM
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#5837
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Behind you ... (well, if your back's to London)
Posts: 1,001
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blushing Heliophobe
Well, I'm packing up and moving along for a little while. I'll be offline after tomorrow for awhile because me and the Mr are bringing the Bump home for some family visits. We're heading out to Missouri, and then we'll hit LA. I will be back and posting in April.
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*waves sadly* Have lots of fun and stay safe love.
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A dream is just a nightmare with lipstick ~ Toni Morrison
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03-07-2006, 07:13 AM
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#5838
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: I own Pitseleh!!
Posts: 3,747
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Bh, I'll miss having you around. Just keep you and the family safe, love.
*BIGSQUEEZYHUGZ*
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*bellyrub*
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03-07-2006, 07:23 AM
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#5839
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Austria
Posts: 311
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blushing Heliophobe
Well, I'm packing up and moving along for a little while. I'll be offline after tomorrow for awhile because me and the Mr are bringing the Bump home for some family visits. We're heading out to Missouri, and then we'll hit LA. I will be back and posting in April.
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*Sadness overwhelming me*
Always thought the USofA is a place where youŽll be able to find a telefon outlet behind every f**king cactus. But probably you just tell us youŽre leaving your notebook at home ;-)
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03-07-2006, 12:24 PM
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#5840
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Lebanon
Posts: 818
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I so hate the weather right here. It's so unpredictable. This week, it was all sunny and great.And now there's a SAND storm and the sound of the wind is DEAFENING!!I just hate the goddamn ozone layer hole, changing all the climats like that!
Ok, I don't know what the point of this was...I'm so bored!
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03-07-2006, 12:27 PM
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#5841
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Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 3,793
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Originally Posted by Blushing Heliophobe
*blushes*
Well, I've still got one day left, but yall are definitely increasing my "feeling loved" internal counter. Shucks...
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i'll miss ya, beautiful girl.
see you when you return.
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"How many times can I say I'm not sorry? And how many ways can I show I don't care?" - Type O Negative
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03-07-2006, 02:12 PM
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#5842
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 3,421
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High five!
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03-07-2006, 07:58 PM
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#5843
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Columbus,Ohio
Posts: 404
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Originally Posted by Xnguela
Where is everyone tonight?
I'm bored!
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I'm here if that means anything.
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03-07-2006, 08:05 PM
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#5844
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Columbus,Ohio
Posts: 404
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If that's your thing,who am I to complain?
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03-07-2006, 08:10 PM
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#5845
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Columbus,Ohio
Posts: 404
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Look,I just drove everyone away. I have that effect on people.
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03-07-2006, 08:21 PM
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#5846
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Columbus,Ohio
Posts: 404
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This is disturbing.....
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03-07-2006, 08:48 PM
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#5847
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Columbus,Ohio
Posts: 404
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I hate Emo,and it's evil twin:"Indie"
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03-07-2006, 09:01 PM
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#5848
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Columbus,Ohio
Posts: 404
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Between the two,Indie is an actual music division..
so I don't dislike it as much as the other.(But isn't the clothing style the same?)
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03-07-2006, 09:05 PM
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#5849
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Columbus,Ohio
Posts: 404
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Hate is such a strong word,it should be more like:"I dislike your tight girly pants and floppy hair".
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03-07-2006, 09:08 PM
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#5850
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Um, lower, oh yeah, uh, uh ... YES THERE!
Posts: 6,738
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Anybody know when we're supposed to hear from Tenet again? I miss his brand of Randomness..
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Lead me not into temptation ... follow me, I know a shortcut!
As the poets have mournfully sung,
death takes the innocent young,
the rolling in money,
the screamingly funny,
and those who are very well hung.
Your days are numbered - 26,280 per person on average - 2,000,000,000 heartbeats ... tick, tick, tick
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